Is the Z 28-400 VR Nikon's Most Versatile Lens?

I agree with what you are sharing and think the arguments to the contrary are misplaced and wrong. That 28-400 hits way above most superzooms and if one shoots photos and videos in a dynamic environment I challenge anyone to post better results without changing glass.

I also think the fact that you can pull 35MP jpegs from the 8k video and capture quality sound from a variety of locations is lost on photographers who are looking for perfection in isolated scenarios. And their protests seem to vindicate the title of the thread.

Love your posts and have some questions about your 8k settings, what is your frame rate, and what sound settings are you using?
 
All typical reactions. The perceived problems with this lens are only problems if you want them to be. Everybody does not have the same perceived problems. The elitist will never love a wide ranging do it all zoom lens in general and especially one that does not have f2.8 or f4 in the description. There is no use even discussing the merits.
 
All typical reactions. The perceived problems with this lens are only problems if you want them to be. Everybody does not have the same perceived problems. The elitist will never love a wide ranging do it all zoom lens in general and especially one that does not have f2.8 or f4 in the description. There is no use even discussing the merits.
Agreed, not with this gang.
 
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All typical reactions. The perceived problems with this lens are only problems if you want them to be. Everybody does not have the same perceived problems. The elitist will never love a wide ranging do it all zoom lens in general and especially one that does not have f2.8 or f4 in the description. There is no use even discussing the merits.
I don't think it has anything to do with elitist behavior or thinking.

I myself use a 5x zoom in the form of the Z 24-120/4 S when the situation calls for it, if it's the better tool for the job due to its focal length flexibility.

In the context of OP, photo & video, travel, where a large focal length range is desired and lighting conditions are good, I can absolutely understand the advantages.

Photography is enormously diverse, and lenses are ultimately tools that help you realize your photographic and cinematic ideas and achieve the desired image effect.

In the end, it's all about choosing the right tool for the job.

Depending on the user and the task at hand, that might be a Z 28-400/4-8 if focal length versatility is paramount.

Factors such as light gathering qualities, which allow you to work with a much wider range of available light, the much greater creative freedom with DoF, and the last bit of image quality are secondary.

That's the price you pay for the immense focal length range of a 15x zoom.

For many photographic situations, in my opinion the majority, it is more important to choose a more specialized tool.

In many cases, a 15x zoom is not needed at all and does not offer any advantages, but the disadvantages remain for the job.

That's why I definitely see the great flexibility of such a superzoom lens when it's suited to the task at hand.

However, this only applies to a fraction of the photographic spectrum, which is why I find it rather elitist to postulate the Z 28-400/4-8 as the holy grail of versatility and shake your head when users with different profiles evaluate it differently.

In addition to the necessary capabilities and characteristics of a lens that are required for specific photographic tasks, it is also a matter of personal philosophy.

This may also be related to how and when one learned photography.

I started in the 1970s and still appreciate the reduction to a single focal length.

Situations where I deliberately set out with the mindset of a single focal length, for example a 35mm or 135mm prime.

At that moment, I consciously want to reduce and fully concentrate on the creative scope of this focal length.

I then think in this focal length and select the appropriate motifs; situations that would require a 100-400mm lens do not interest me at all at that moment.

I am then completely in the 35mm mindset and not looking for subjects in a focal length range of 28-400mm.

This is the opposite of the more widespread need today to be equipped for every occasion, city architecture, group portraits, but under no circumstances miss the pigeon or situation for which I need 200-400mm.

I also use vintage lenses from various decades that are visually inferior from today's perspective, M42 lenses from Carl Zeiss Jena or SMC Takumar, Tomioka, and others, including a 70-210/3.5 Vivitar Series 1 zoom lens, lenses from the 1950s to the 1970s.

Or Canon FD lenses from the 80s, including zooms such as the 20-35/3.5 L, or Mamiya 645 Sekor lenses from the 80s.

Many of them have greater optical flaws in terms of aberrations, flares, CA, and LoCA than a very good and modern superzoom lens such as the Z 24-400/4-8.

So that's not what it's about, but about choosing the right tool, the right look, rendering style for the photographic task at hand.

I can certainly see the enormous flexibility that such a superzoom offers for certain photographic/cinematic tasks, but I would resist selling it as a universal truth.

It doesn't apply to me, and probably not to many other users either, because the majority of my photographic excursions benefit more from other aspects than from a 15x focal length range in one lens.

This means that, with a few exceptions such as travel photography, videography, the supposed super flexibility remains largely unused, and then you're left with the disadvantages of such a superzoom solution.

The discussion was also fueled by the fact that people here shake their heads when you have a different photographic approach and don't see the same benefits of such a superzoom.

So it's not so much that we're being elitist and saying such a superzoom is not fancy and elitist enough, but rather that the superzoom faction in this thread cannot understand that there are users who generally do not need this immense focal length flexibility in one single zoom lens, and then, logically, the disadvantages of such a solution dominate if I do not need the point that everything is subordinate to a superzoom.

At that moment, the fast prime or fast, significantly shorter zoom solution gives me more flexibility for my tasks.

That was the actual core criticism, not that it is impossible to understand that it can be the ideal lens for some users and areas.

It was more that this opinion, which I and other users hold, is not accepted, and then the discussion is stifled with accusations of elitist thinking.

To be honest, I find the empathy of superzoom advocates for a different, more targeted approach lacking, rather than the other way around.
 
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I have the Z28-400VR and the 24-120F4S. The latter is a fine lens but as a lazy photgrapher, shooting on a Zf , it is the "superzoom" that stays on my camera most of the time. Recent holidays in the Lake District and on the Norfolk coast yielded plenty of excellent images, at least they more than satisfied me. I also have the 40mm F2 SE and the Tamron 90 F2.8 Macro which get even less use.

I suspect that much of the well-meant negative observations about the 28-400 are based on our suspicion of superzoom IQ and the restriction to F8 from about 200mm. I would certainly have shied away from a lens like this in my film and digital SLR days. In practical use on the Zf, to capture holiday and family pictures, I have not felt constrained by those shortcomings. I just work around them and I am not a compulsive pixel-peeper either.

If I can work out how to do it, I'll attach a couple of recent pictures.

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Not art, but decent images in a variety of situations. All SOOC .jpg files. As you can see, some are with the S lens and some with the 28-400. I cannot distinguish between them quite honestly.

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All typical reactions. The perceived problems with this lens are only problems if you want them to be. Everybody does not have the same perceived problems. The elitist will never love a wide ranging do it all zoom lens in general and especially one that does not have f2.8 or f4 in the description. There is no use even discussing the merits.
Conversely, the perceived advantages with this lens are only advantages if you, yourself, require them. I could write a long paragraph about the advantages of a 70-200 2.8 lens. My personal favorite, although one I no longer need. That does not make it the best lens for everybody. Nor would I complain that those who don't like it are just pedestrian snapshot takers who would not appreciate it's merits.
I don't think it has anything to do with elitist behavior or thinking.
Agreed. I once, about twenty years ago decided to use only a superzoom (Don't remember the range, I think 24-300. may be wrong on the wide end,) and shoot in jpeg while on vacation. It was fun, and it was easy. But, the trade offs, especially considering the quality of superzooms back then, resulted in "lower" quality images. I sold the lens shortly after that. Since then a lens in the range of 18-140 is the highest ratio I have ever used. Not being elitist, but staying with what works for me.

I do not shoot video and cannot comment about any focal length, zoom, etc that would be ideal for the OP's situation. Just for mine. And the OP is failing to recognize that not everyone shoots their way.
 
The f4 aperture at the wide end is good for low light (especially at ISO4000, the second base ISO). And at f8 at 300-400mm, there is plenty of subject isolation and nice bokeh.
Potential was there, but Nikon failed to demonstrate the advantage of Z-mount over their F-mount. Nikon's F-mount AF-S Nikkor 28-300mm has slightly better aperture (f/3.5) at wide-end and has better aperture at far-end (f/5.6) when 28-400 is set to 300mm.

Advantage is 100mm more reach and 28-400 does need a FTZ adapter. Still disappointing, since Nikon failed to match or beat 28-300mm's f-stops with Z-mount version and their latest lens technology.
 
Not for me. Quite the opposite actually. This lens is one of Nikon's worst Z lenses in my opinion. Focal length isn't everything. The 28-400 is also missing those 24mm, and I really enjoy shooting landscapes, so that missing range hurts. Indoors the lens is pretty much useless at most focal lengths. You might get some nice bokeh at 400mm, but it's nice to have the option to play with depth of field at other focal lengths too.

It doesn't produce nice sunstars either, but it does offer plenty of CAs. And on top of that, it's not very sharp. For wildlife and sports it's a big compromise because of the slow autofocus and the limited cropping potential due to the lack of sharpness, not just because of the aperture. For landscapes the soft corners, the CAs and the inability to produce sunstars are annoying.

For portraits it lacks depth of field control, and for travel photography it's basically useless in low light. This lens is full of compromises. The fact that it extends so much when zooming is another big one.

Fast lenses are a lot more versatile for me. The 28-400 feels like a bridge camera lens. It definitely has its use case, but for me it's an absolute no-go.
 
Not for me. Quite the opposite actually. This lens is one of Nikon's worst Z lenses in my opinion. Focal length isn't everything. The 28-400 is also missing those 24mm, and I really enjoy shooting landscapes, so that missing range hurts. Indoors the lens is pretty much useless at most focal lengths. You might get some nice bokeh at 400mm, but it's nice to have the option to play with depth of field at other focal lengths too.

It doesn't produce nice sunstars either, but it does offer plenty of CAs. And on top of that, it's not very sharp. For wildlife and sports it's a big compromise because of the slow autofocus and the limited cropping potential due to the lack of sharpness, not just because of the aperture. For landscapes the soft corners, the CAs and the inability to produce sunstars are annoying.

For portraits it lacks depth of field control, and for travel photography it's basically useless in low light. This lens is full of compromises. The fact that it extends so much when zooming is another big one.

Fast lenses are a lot more versatile for me. The 28-400 feels like a bridge camera lens. It definitely has its use case, but for me it's an absolute no-go.
I wonder how something like a Coolpix P1100 with it’s 24 - 3000 (FX equivalent) lens compares. The 5.6 crop factor won’t help the Coolpix but maybe it’s viable.
 
The 28-400 does not need the FTZ adapter. And I had the old 28-300 and can verify that it was never even close to the performance in focus accuracy, focus speed, VR ability or image quality to the 28-400. Don't still have it or would be glad to shoot some comparison shots. I do still have my old screw drive Nikon 28-200 and it is among the sharpest lenses I've ever owned.
 
Not for me. Quite the opposite actually. This lens is one of Nikon's worst Z lenses in my opinion. Focal length isn't everything. The 28-400 is also missing those 24mm, and I really enjoy shooting landscapes, so that missing range hurts. Indoors the lens is pretty much useless at most focal lengths. You might get some nice bokeh at 400mm, but it's nice to have the option to play with depth of field at other focal lengths too.

It doesn't produce nice sunstars either, but it does offer plenty of CAs. And on top of that, it's not very sharp. For wildlife and sports it's a big compromise because of the slow autofocus and the limited cropping potential due to the lack of sharpness, not just because of the aperture. For landscapes the soft corners, the CAs and the inability to produce sunstars are annoying.

For portraits it lacks depth of field control, and for travel photography it's basically useless in low light. This lens is full of compromises. The fact that it extends so much when zooming is another big one.

Fast lenses are a lot more versatile for me. The 28-400 feels like a bridge camera lens. It definitely has its use case, but for me it's an absolute no-go.
I wonder how something like a Coolpix P1100 with it’s 24 - 3000 (FX equivalent) lens compares. The 5.6 crop factor won’t help the Coolpix but maybe it’s viable.
Here are three photos one taken in 2016 with the Nikon P900 at 24mm (equiv) and one at 2000mm (equiv) and one taken from the exact same spot in 2025 of the same scene with the 28-400 Nikon and cropped to app the same framing. Not great but all I have handy that I can think of. Distance app 3/4 mile

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I don't know if it's the most versatile but for it's more versatile than a 70-200.

I absolutely hate 70 as a starting point. I've tried to use the 70-300 as an only lens and I wasn't keen.

I could probably get by with the 24-70 F2.8 but not the 70-200.

Any lens that can't do basic landscape isn't versatile enough for my needs. I don't really need 24 or wider. 28 is actually fine.

I think F8 is fine. Dof and shutter speed wise I live in the UK and I don't get that it's too dark. If I'm indoors I'll only use 28mm anyway.

Maybe the 24-120 is more versatile in many ways but I'm not feeling that 70-200 at all.
 
I don't know if it's the most versatile but for it's more versatile than a 70-200.

I absolutely hate 70 as a starting point. I've tried to use the 70-300 as an only lens and I wasn't keen.

I could probably get by with the 24-70 F2.8 but not the 70-200.

Any lens that can't do basic landscape isn't versatile enough for my needs. I don't really need 24 or wider. 28 is actually fine.

I think F8 is fine. Dof and shutter speed wise I live in the UK and I don't get that it's too dark. If I'm indoors I'll only use 28mm anyway.

Maybe the 24-120 is more versatile in many ways but I'm not feeling that 70-200 at all.
The 24-120 is a close second to me. I am close to not getting any primes because of the 24-120.
 

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