Questions about the XE5

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Got a few questions on the newer bodies (particularly the XE5)... I asked something smiilar earlier so sorry if part of this is a repeat.

First, what differences are there to the EVF in terms of EVF "quality" / experience between say the XT30 series or earlier Fuji's and the XE5? Is the EVF better / clearer? Is the EVF larger?

Second, does anyone know if the XE5 works with Smallrig batteries (the orange ones)?
 
I’m using Smallrig batteries in my X-E5 without issue. But they’re the blue ones, not orange.

Can’t answer the EVF question. All I know is the EVF is not their newer high resolution screen.
 
I’m using Smallrig batteries in my X-E5 without issue. But they’re the blue ones, not orange.

Can’t answer the EVF question. All I know is the EVF is not their newer high resolution screen.
OK thanks. I think the orange ones are "newer" but may not matter for Fuji's (it seems to be more relevant for other brands like Nikon, where oranges ones seem to work in the newer bodies where the blues ones don't necessarily).
 
First, what differences are there to the EVF in terms of EVF "quality" / experience between say the XT30 series or earlier Fuji's and the XE5? Is the EVF better / clearer? Is the EVF larger?
I don't think there's any difference. See this: https://www.dpreview.com/products/c...products=fujifilm_xs20&products=fujifilm_xt30

The specs are identical between X-E5, X-E4, X-S20 and X-T30. I've had the X-E4 and currently own the X-S20 and X-E5. To me, I see no difference. As the X-T30 is the same spec, I'd expect the same experience.

As for the bigger/brighter EVFs, those are reserved for bigger/heavier cameras like the X-T5 and the X-H2(s). As much as I would've wanted a bigger EVF, I wouldn't trade the size advantage of the X-E5 for it.
 
Got a few questions on the newer bodies (particularly the XE5)... I asked something smiilar earlier so sorry if part of this is a repeat.

First, what differences are there to the EVF in terms of EVF "quality" / experience between say the XT30 series or earlier Fuji's and the XE5? Is the EVF better / clearer? Is the EVF larger?

Second, does anyone know if the XE5 works with Smallrig batteries (the orange ones)?
There's a few things that determinate EVF quality and experience:
  • number of dots - this is the spec we see everywhere, but is far from the only metric that matters.
  • magnification - to what extent is the EVF screen is enlarged by the optics. Smaller bodies like the X-E5 have a smaller magnification as they can't fit larger optics and EVF. It's 0.62x for the X-T30, X-E5, X-T50, X-S20.
  • eye point - longer eye point makes it more comfortable to see the EVF if you wear glasses. This is a spec that's rarely mentioned. It's 17.5mm for the X-T30, X-E5, X-T50, X-S20.
 
All I know is that the EVF works fine for me. I took note of the lower resolution which worried me until I actually tried it - and I have no issues now.

Batteries - I think any will work - some are better quality than others.

Alan
 
All I know is that the EVF works fine for me. I took note of the lower resolution which worried me until I actually tried it - and I have no issues now.

Batteries - I think any will work - some are better quality than others.

Alan
Exactly. I use it without any issues, very happy with it, but if we care about online comments and reviews only, it's almost unusable.
 
There's a few things that determinate EVF quality and experience:
  • number of dots - this is the spec we see everywhere, but is far from the only metric that matters.
IME it matters very little. Improvements can help a bit for precise manual focusing, but other than that, all of Fuji’s EVF panels have more than good enough resolution these days.
  • magnification - to what extent is the EVF screen is enlarged by the optics. Smaller bodies like the X-E5 have a smaller magnification as they can't fit larger optics and EVF. It's 0.62x for the X-T30, X-E5, X-T50, X-S20.
This needs to be multiplied by the actual panel size, though: you can’t consider it in isolation. For instance, the X-Pro3 and X100V/VI EVF has lower magnification than the X-E5, but it’s a larger panel, and the net result is a larger view. For me it’s the combination of these two things that constitute the main factor in EVF experience.
  • eye point - longer eye point makes it more comfortable to see the EVF if you wear glasses. This is a spec that's rarely mentioned. It's 17.5mm for the X-T30, X-E5, X-T50, X-S20.
Yes, this is a really important thing if you wear glasses. It’s generally not an issue if you don’t.

It may be worth considering other things such as colour reproduction, contrast and gamma. I’ve used some EVFs which bear no resemblance to the recorded tones—I seem to recall a Canon one which was way too contrasty and made all the shadow tones pretty much black. But I’d say all Fuji’s EVFs are more than adequate on this front.
 
Got a few questions on the newer bodies (particularly the XE5)... I asked something smiilar earlier so sorry if part of this is a repeat.

First, what differences are there to the EVF in terms of EVF "quality" / experience between say the XT30 series or earlier Fuji's and the XE5? Is the EVF better / clearer? Is the EVF larger?

Second, does anyone know if the XE5 works with Smallrig batteries (the orange ones)?
There's a few things that determinate EVF quality and experience:
  • number of dots - this is the spec we see everywhere, but is far from the only metric that matters.
  • magnification - to what extent is the EVF screen is enlarged by the optics. Smaller bodies like the X-E5 have a smaller magnification as they can't fit larger optics and EVF. It's 0.62x for the X-T30, X-E5, X-T50, X-S20.
  • eye point - longer eye point makes it more comfortable to see the EVF if you wear glasses. This is a spec that's rarely mentioned. It's 17.5mm for the X-T30, X-E5, X-T50, X-S20.
OK so basically from a technical standpoint, the EVF on the X-E5 is the same as the ones like the XT30 and XT50....
 
I know it's the same as the XT-50, can't help with the 30 as I've never tried it.

Alan
 
There's a few things that determinate EVF quality and experience:
  • number of dots - this is the spec we see everywhere, but is far from the only metric that matters.
IME it matters very little. Improvements can help a bit for precise manual focusing, but other than that, all of Fuji’s EVF panels have more than good enough resolution these days.
  • magnification - to what extent is the EVF screen is enlarged by the optics. Smaller bodies like the X-E5 have a smaller magnification as they can't fit larger optics and EVF. It's 0.62x for the X-T30, X-E5, X-T50, X-S20.
This needs to be multiplied by the actual panel size, though: you can’t consider it in isolation. For instance, the X-Pro3 and X100V/VI EVF has lower magnification than the X-E5, but it’s a larger panel, and the net result is a larger view. For me it’s the combination of these two things that constitute the main factor in EVF experience.
  • eye point - longer eye point makes it more comfortable to see the EVF if you wear glasses. This is a spec that's rarely mentioned. It's 17.5mm for the X-T30, X-E5, X-T50, X-S20.
Yes, this is a really important thing if you wear glasses. It’s generally not an issue if you don’t.

It may be worth considering other things such as colour reproduction, contrast and gamma. I’ve used some EVFs which bear no resemblance to the recorded tones—I seem to recall a Canon one which was way too contrasty and made all the shadow tones pretty much black. But I’d say all Fuji’s EVFs are more than adequate on this front.
Good points. Regarding the magnification, this is something I noticed when comparing the X-T5 and X-S20 viewfinders side by side. Despite the bigger magnification on the X-T5, I still couldn't see the corners as well as I hoped because I wear glasses. I suppose a smaller viewfinder eyecup would help with this. Meanwhile the X-S20 (and X-T50, X-E5) don't offer the ability to change eyecups.
 
Got a few questions on the newer bodies (particularly the XE5)... I asked something smiilar earlier so sorry if part of this is a repeat.

First, what differences are there to the EVF in terms of EVF "quality" / experience between say the XT30 series or earlier Fuji's and the XE5? Is the EVF better / clearer? Is the EVF larger?

Second, does anyone know if the XE5 works with Smallrig batteries (the orange ones)?
I just picked up an XE-5 (open box at my local camera store, marked down 10%, included all original accessories including the rope strap) body, silver, and it's very pretty. Years ago in 2012 I had the original X100 and enjoyed it but sold it since it was too limiting being stuck with the 23mm f2. Now I have the Xe-5 with a 23mm f2 Fujinon mounted on it and it's just great. Love shooting with it. Will bring it with my alongside my Z8 to China in a couple weeks.
 

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