Wallstreet thinks Adobe is getting cooked by AI

These days it seems about every three weeks about what will coming with AI is on the news and other shows.
That’s interesting to hear.

Television - - drug of the nation. lol
It’s been over 45 years since I watched TV, and I’ve gotta say, between work, world traveling, and 15 hobbies… it has been the most Wonderful time.
 
These days it seems about every three weeks about what will coming with AI is on the news and other shows.
That’s interesting to hear.

Television - - drug of the nation. lol
It’s been over 45 years since I watched TV, and I’ve gotta say, between work, world traveling, and 15 hobbies… it has been the most Wonderful time.
You have to filter through it but it has provided valuable information for us. I couldn't live without. Too many awesome series. Breaking Bad, Ozark, Black Rabbit (which is recent), just to mention a few. Sports? I couldn't give that up.

The 'Social Dilemma" in Netflix is an eye opener if yo can find it.

So is this which was on TV. Astounding. How they discovered this is really something.


If you can find this. Excellent explanations. Got me into learning about all of Einstein's work, etc. Physics, etc is something I now wish I had paid more attention to in school. These days I can't enough of it.

 
There will be no Adobe or any raster or vector editing software in the future except for those who want a trip down memory lane. In the not too distant future, AI will be able to automatically cull, rate, categorize, and process thousands of images to your spoken requirements and liking in a matter of seconds.
The more you think about it. What will RAW mean 10 years from now? I just looked at what it would cost me to get back into DXO. In a few years the new tech will go way beyond this for a fraction of the cost.

I'm only piping in because Adobe was the topic. Any company that is not keeping up to stuff like Nano Banana should be worried. Not just Adobe.
 
Thanks… Maybe I’ll look for the Human Nature documentary film exploring the implications of CRISPR gene editing technology, as it’s unfamiliar to me.

AI and what it can do for us now and in the future may seem like a recent development, but this has been in the making for decades.

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Regarding technology advancements in the 20th century…
The first working transistor was invented in 1947 by John Bardeen, Walter Brattain, and William Shockley at Bell Labs, and many folks here will remember carrying a six-transistor shirt pocket radio to the ball game.

Today… there are over 20 billion transistors in the latest Apple iPhone!
For the benefit of the congregation: transistors can act as both switches and amplifiers.
 
There will be no Adobe or any raster or vector editing software in the future except for those who want a trip down memory lane. In the not too distant future, AI will be able to automatically cull, rate, categorize, and process thousands of images to your spoken requirements and liking in a matter of seconds.
It would take paragraphs to communicate what I want verbally and with the precise control I want. The way I type it would take far longer than seconds.
It would be easy, being polite I would ask my AI assistant "please look at my last 25 years of photos and improve them and then select the best and organise them into a series of not more than 10 photo books", oh, and "send the bill to someone other than me".
 
These days it seems about every three weeks about what will coming with AI is on the news and other shows.
That’s interesting to hear.

Television - - drug of the nation. lol
It’s been over 45 years since I watched TV, and I’ve gotta say, between work, world traveling, and 15 hobbies… it has been the most Wonderful time.
You have to filter through it but it has provided valuable information for us. I couldn't live without. Too many awesome series. Breaking Bad, Ozark, Black Rabbit (which is recent), just to mention a few. Sports? I couldn't give that up.

The 'Social Dilemma" in Netflix is an eye opener if yo can find it.

So is this which was on TV. Astounding. How they discovered this is really something.


If you can find this. Excellent explanations. Got me into learning about all of Einstein's work, etc. Physics, etc is something I now wish I had paid more attention to in school. These days I can't enough of it.

Zeee,

I like your signature. It's very true.
 
These days it seems about every three weeks about what will coming with AI is on the news and other shows.
That’s interesting to hear.

Television - - drug of the nation. lol
It’s been over 45 years since I watched TV, and I’ve gotta say, between work, world traveling, and 15 hobbies… it has been the most Wonderful time.
You have to filter through it but it has provided valuable information for us. I couldn't live without. Too many awesome series. Breaking Bad, Ozark, Black Rabbit (which is recent), just to mention a few. Sports? I couldn't give that up.

The 'Social Dilemma" in Netflix is an eye opener if yo can find it.

So is this which was on TV. Astounding. How they discovered this is really something.


If you can find this. Excellent explanations. Got me into learning about all of Einstein's work, etc. Physics, etc is something I now wish I had paid more attention to in school. These days I can't enough of it.

Zeee,

I like your signature. It's very true.
Thanks. The last several years were a real eye opener.
 
There will be no Adobe or any raster or vector editing software in the future except for those who want a trip down memory lane. In the not too distant future, AI will be able to automatically cull, rate, categorize, and process thousands of images to your spoken requirements and liking in a matter of seconds.
It would take paragraphs to communicate what I want verbally and with the precise control I want. The way I type it would take far longer than seconds.
It would be easy, being polite I would ask my AI assistant "please look at my last 25 years of photos and improve them and then select the best and organise them into a series of not more than 10 photo books", oh, and "send the bill to someone other than me".
The problem is how would AI know what you want improved. There's a good chance they would end up worse.
 
There will be no Adobe or any raster or vector editing software in the future except for those who want a trip down memory lane. In the not too distant future, AI will be able to automatically cull, rate, categorize, and process thousands of images to your spoken requirements and liking in a matter of seconds.
It would take paragraphs to communicate what I want verbally and with the precise control I want. The way I type it would take far longer than seconds.
It would be easy, being polite I would ask my AI assistant "please look at my last 25 years of photos and improve them and then select the best and organise them into a series of not more than 10 photo books", oh, and "send the bill to someone other than me".
The problem is how would AI know what you want improved. There's a good chance they would end up worse.
Surely that's something that's ideal for machine learning? Guessing how people want raw images to look is something that computational photography does all the time in smartphones, to most people's satisfaction.
 
There will be no Adobe or any raster or vector editing software in the future except for those who want a trip down memory lane. In the not too distant future, AI will be able to automatically cull, rate, categorize, and process thousands of images to your spoken requirements and liking in a matter of seconds.
It would take paragraphs to communicate what I want verbally and with the precise control I want. The way I type it would take far longer than seconds.
It would be easy, being polite I would ask my AI assistant "please look at my last 25 years of photos and improve them and then select the best and organise them into a series of not more than 10 photo books", oh, and "send the bill to someone other than me".
The problem is how would AI know what you want improved. There's a good chance they would end up worse.
Surely that's something that's ideal for machine learning? Guessing how people want raw images to look is something that computational photography does all the time in smartphones, to most people's satisfaction.
Most is not me! :-) Using phones as an example shows that the there's a good chance I wouldn't like the results. Phone photos tend to be overprocessed.
 
There will be no Adobe or any raster or vector editing software in the future except for those who want a trip down memory lane. In the not too distant future, AI will be able to automatically cull, rate, categorize, and process thousands of images to your spoken requirements and liking in a matter of seconds.
It would take paragraphs to communicate what I want verbally and with the precise control I want. The way I type it would take far longer than seconds.
It would be easy, being polite I would ask my AI assistant "please look at my last 25 years of photos and improve them and then select the best and organise them into a series of not more than 10 photo books", oh, and "send the bill to someone other than me".
The problem is how would AI know what you want improved. There's a good chance they would end up worse.
Surely that's something that's ideal for machine learning? Guessing how people want raw images to look is something that computational photography does all the time in smartphones, to most people's satisfaction.
Most is not me! :-) Using phones as an example shows that the there's a good chance I wouldn't like the results.
No doubt the AI editor could also learn your tastes and preferences?
Phone photos tend to be overprocessed.
To look good on a small screen.
 
No doubt the AI editor could also learn your tastes and preferences?
No it couldn't because they change. Maybe after analyzing 10,000 photos it would learn but I'm not going to waste that much time. Now if each parameter of the AI processing could be altered to taste then maybe but then it's not much different than a standard RAW editor.
 
No doubt the AI editor could also learn your tastes and preferences?
No it couldn't because they change. Maybe after analyzing 10,000 photos it would learn but I'm not going to waste that much time. Now if each parameter of the AI processing could be altered to taste then maybe but then it's not much different than a standard RAW editor.
That’s not how machine learning works. You don’t have to waste any time teaching it.
 
No doubt the AI editor could also learn your tastes and preferences?
No it couldn't because they change. Maybe after analyzing 10,000 photos it would learn but I'm not going to waste that much time. Now if each parameter of the AI processing could be altered to taste then maybe but then it's not much different than a standard RAW editor.
That’s not how machine learning works. You don’t have to waste any time teaching it.
Well it can't magically read my mind to know what I like.
 
Most is not me! :-) Using phones as an example shows that the there's a good chance I wouldn't like the results. Phone photos tend to be overprocessed.
I had recent experience with variations in reality, just back from China trip and the tour members set up a WhatsApp group to talk about the trip and show their photos.

One example I tried to recreate here with one of my own random shots...

Summer Palace walkway in Beijing.
Summer Palace walkway in Beijing.

Left is my quick effort to try and show how I remembered the scene as close as I can. Realistic darkening of the overhead stuff.

The right copy is sort of like what one member posted of the same walkway from a phone shot, probably was more extreme than that, over bright colours, no darkness at all in the ceiling, quite extraordinary. I need to get the shot from my wife's phone as I'm not in any WhatsApp activity at all.

Basically phone shots mostly hurt my eyes.
 
No doubt the AI editor could also learn your tastes and preferences?
No it couldn't because they change. Maybe after analyzing 10,000 photos it would learn but I'm not going to waste that much time. Now if each parameter of the AI processing could be altered to taste then maybe but then it's not much different than a standard RAW editor.
That’s not how machine learning works. You don’t have to waste any time teaching it.
Well it can't magically read my mind to know what I like.
But it can read posts we make and check the examples we post and know all about our tastes.

I was surprised one day when I asked what ChatGPT knew about "guy parsons" along with a bit of direction to point to the correct guy parsons and not one of the many other guy parsons out there.

Maybe I should not have used my real name when joining forums etc. :-)

It's a sad world when we need to hide our names.
 
No doubt the AI editor could also learn your tastes and preferences?
No it couldn't because they change. Maybe after analyzing 10,000 photos it would learn but I'm not going to waste that much time. Now if each parameter of the AI processing could be altered to taste then maybe but then it's not much different than a standard RAW editor.
That’s not how machine learning works. You don’t have to waste any time teaching it.
Well it can't magically read my mind to know what I like.
Not until we get chips installed. Human trials are under way.
 
I didn’t know this was a financial advice forum.

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No doubt the AI editor could also learn your tastes and preferences?
No it couldn't because they change. Maybe after analyzing 10,000 photos it would learn but I'm not going to waste that much time. Now if each parameter of the AI processing could be altered to taste then maybe but then it's not much different than a standard RAW editor.
That’s not how machine learning works. You don’t have to waste any time teaching it.
Well it can't magically read my mind to know what I like.
But it can read posts we make and check the examples we post and know all about our tastes.
Still can't know what I'm looking for at any given moment. My tastes aren't fixed and often change. Sometimes my wife will want a photo processed differently. There are numerous different ways I want to process any given photo. I often save several different examples processed differently. Sometimes I go back at a later date and look at a photo and decide I would rather process it differently.
 
They were late to the AI party and professional stock pickers are pessimistic about Adobe's future.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/morgan-stanley-warns-ai-could-180300766.html
They might be behind in general with AI, but I think in the photography industry they are one of the leaders with AI technology in their products. I mean look at others like Luminar that just added things like Generative Erase only a few years ago.

We also have to consider that some tools like the Spot Healing brush tool may have used a bit of AI even before AI became popular. Although the amount of AI it may have used was probably not much, mostly pattern recognition for example, I would argue it still used some AI to a degree. So this makes me think Adobe is at least ahead of many of the others in the industry.

The other thing is that Adobe is also probably being careful with AI in terms of that they know that there are people out there that are anti-AI so they are slowly rolling it out and not making everything AI-based like some of the other products on the market, like Luminar, which many of their features are AI based. Same for other programs. So that might be another reason why people THINK Adobe is behind, when they may just be more cautious especially since the whole AI and user data debacle 1+ years ago.

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