excellent ! Nano Banana being integrated into Photoshop

Are you referring to the ability to use Nano Bana as the AI engine. i.e. where you can chose the back end model to use in Photoshop Beta?
 
yes.......I have been "playing" with it. I had been using Nano Banana since Google released it, but now it's easy to integrate with my photo work.

There is another tool (qwen 2509) from China which seems to be better than Nano Banana, but it has a steeper learning curve. I used that to put Honest Abe on an elephant using two images. One from the net and one I shot at the zoo. All I input was "put the man on the elephant."



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Are you referring to the ability to use Nano Bana as the AI engine. i.e. where you can chose the back end model to use in Photoshop Beta?
Barleyman,

If you have a subscription to Adobe, you can go to the Adobe HOME page, (adobe.com) make sure you are signed into your account, and then simply select FIREFLY from the Top Menu area.

Once you are into the Firefly program, simply depress the GENERATE button (do not enter any prompt). The Ai Model will open. On the LEFT hand side of the screen, you will see the MODELS towards the top left. Click on the Drop down menu, and select the Ai Model you want to use. NOTE: Some of the Ai models might not be available, based on your subscription plan. The rest is self explanatory after your select the model you want to use.

Good Luck.
 
There is this interesting note on the update from Adobe:

"available to all beta users for a limited time"

I'm wondering what that means.

Gato
 
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Not available in my basic photo plan. FWIW

Gato
I would bet it would be available Gato if you purchased extra Credits for Ai. It is $9.99 per month for 2000 credits, and you can cancel at any time. NOTE: The ONLY THING I do not like, is that your credits do NOT carry over if you do not use them. Adobe NEEDS to change that, quickly. It is NOT fair to purchase 2000 credits, and not be able to use them whenever you want.
 
yes.......I have been "playing" with it. I had been using Nano Banana since Google released it, but now it's easy to integrate with my photo work.

There is another tool (qwen 2509) from China which seems to be better than Nano Banana, but it has a steeper learning curve. I used that to put Honest Abe on an elephant using two images. One from the net and one I shot at the zoo. All I input was "put the man on the elephant."
Fun with AI for sure, but I don't think it will be long before real photography is swamped by AI imaging and nobody will be interested in any of our 'real' photographs because nobody will be able to tell the difference and few people will care.

So have fun with it while it's in its infancy because when it grows up it will swallow us all.


Peter
 
yes.......I have been "playing" with it. I had been using Nano Banana since Google released it, but now it's easy to integrate with my photo work.

There is another tool (qwen 2509) from China which seems to be better than Nano Banana, but it has a steeper learning curve. I used that to put Honest Abe on an elephant using two images. One from the net and one I shot at the zoo. All I input was "put the man on the elephant."
Fun with AI for sure, but I don't think it will be long before real photography is swamped by AI imaging and nobody will be interested in any of our 'real' photographs because nobody will be able to tell the difference and few people will care.

So have fun with it while it's in its infancy because when it grows up it will swallow us all.

Peter
AI will be doomed if/when AI-generated images outnumber real ones. That will create a feedback loop that will exaggerate AI hallucinations.
 
Not available in my basic photo plan. FWIW
I would bet it would be available Gato if you purchased extra Credits for Ai. It is $9.99 per month for 2000 credits, and you can cancel at any time. NOTE: The ONLY THING I do not like, is that your credits do NOT carry over if you do not use them. Adobe NEEDS to change that, quickly. It is NOT fair to purchase 2000 credits, and not be able to use them whenever you want.
Adobe is a subscription company. Basically what you did was purchase a license to use 2000 credits, and the license expires after a month.
 
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Help me out here. I'm told that tools like Nano Banana and Adobe's Generative Expand still have very low pixel limits (around 1024). So. if you work on a piece of an image that is larger than that you get garbage. That's certainly my experience using Generative Expand on a 6720x4480 image. I've seen a few videos on how to get around that, but the steps seem pretty silly.

So, what's going to happen? Are we currently in an "addiction" phase -- being shown exciting potential soon to be followed by the real thing for a significant fee. What good is a blurry Lincoln on a blurry elephant?
 
Help me out here. I'm told that tools like Nano Banana and Adobe's Generative Expand still have very low pixel limits (around 1024). So. if you work on a piece of an image that is larger than that you get garbage. That's certainly my experience using Generative Expand on a 6720x4480 image. I've seen a few videos on how to get around that, but the steps seem pretty silly.
You are 100% correct Redcrown. The biggest downside right now to Ai, is the resolution limits. No question about that.
So, what's going to happen? Are we currently in an "addiction" phase -- being shown exciting potential soon to be followed by the real thing for a significant fee. What good is a blurry Lincoln on a blurry elephant?
That is the down side right now, in that this is an evolving process, and how long it takes for these Ai Models to allow higher resolution. I am sure that will be forthcoming in the near future, but the question is, how long will it take?

Right now, the Ai Software is being bogged down by users, and that is with very limited resolution. Imagine the same number of users, trying to create 20-40 mb files, or even panorama files. The systems would come to a standstill and it would take hours to create any images. So, that is why they are limiting resolution right now in my opinion, to see what it does to their systems.

I had had some creations that took 20-30 seconds, and I have had a few that took up to a minute, and I am working with a brand new MacBook Pro with M3 Max Chip.

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Major Jack
"You are welcome to retouch any photograph I post in these forums without prior consent from me". Have fun, and play as you wish.
 
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... very low pixel limits (around 1024).
It's the current universal Nano Banana limit outside of Adobe's implementation as well.
So, what's going to happen? Are we currently in an "addiction" phase -- being shown exciting potential soon to be followed by the real thing for a significant fee...?
Quite likely, I think, unless Google (the developer) can find a different way to monetize it.
 
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Not available in my basic photo plan. FWIW
I would bet it would be available Gato if you purchased extra Credits for Ai. It is $9.99 per month for 2000 credits, and you can cancel at any time. NOTE: The ONLY THING I do not like, is that your credits do NOT carry over if you do not use them. Adobe NEEDS to change that, quickly. It is NOT fair to purchase 2000 credits, and not be able to use them whenever you want.
Adobe is a subscription company. Basically what you did was purchase a license to use 2000 credits, and the license expires after a month.
I paid zero over my monthly $9.99 which I have anyway. I don't know what your talking about.
 
Help me out here. I'm told that tools like Nano Banana and Adobe's Generative Expand still have very low pixel limits (around 1024). So. if you work on a piece of an image that is larger than that you get garbage. That's certainly my experience using Generative Expand on a 6720x4480 image. I've seen a few videos on how to get around that, but the steps seem pretty silly.
You are 100% correct Redcrown. The biggest downside right now to Ai, is the resolution limits. No question about that.
So, what's going to happen? Are we currently in an "addiction" phase -- being shown exciting potential soon to be followed by the real thing for a significant fee. What good is a blurry Lincoln on a blurry elephant?
That is the down side right now, in that this is an evolving process, and how long it takes for these Ai Models to allow higher resolution. I am sure that will be forthcoming in the near future, but the question is, how long will it take?

Right now, the Ai Software is being bogged down by users, and that is with very limited resolution. Imagine the same number of users, trying to create 20-40 mb files, or even panorama files. The systems would come to a standstill and it would take hours to create any images. So, that is why they are limiting resolution right now in my opinion, to see what it does to their systems.

I had had some creations that took 20-30 seconds, and I have had a few that took up to a minute, and I am working with a brand new MacBook Pro with M3 Max Chip.
A lot faster than taking a photo and bringing it home.
 
Not available in my basic photo plan. FWIW
I would bet it would be available Gato if you purchased extra Credits for Ai. It is $9.99 per month for 2000 credits, and you can cancel at any time. NOTE: The ONLY THING I do not like, is that your credits do NOT carry over if you do not use them. Adobe NEEDS to change that, quickly. It is NOT fair to purchase 2000 credits, and not be able to use them whenever you want.
Adobe is a subscription company. Basically what you did was purchase a license to use 2000 credits, and the license expires after a month.
I paid zero over my monthly $9.99 which I have anyway. I don't know what your talking about.
I was talking to Major Jack about this:

NOTE: The ONLY THING I do not like, is that your credits do NOT carry over if you do not use them. Adobe NEEDS to change that, quickly. It is NOT fair to purchase 2000 credits, and not be able to use them whenever you want.

You'll presumably see the same thing if you exhaust your monthly allotment of included free credits, as he did, and want to consider paying for more. If I misunderstood, and he did not actually pay for the 2000 additional credits, he's simply waiting for the month to roll over so he can get another month of free credits.

Either way, your credits - free or otherwise - start again at zero after a month whether you use them or not.

 
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yes.......I have been "playing" with it. I had been using Nano Banana since Google released it, but now it's easy to integrate with my photo work.

There is another tool (qwen 2509) from China which seems to be better than Nano Banana, but it has a steeper learning curve. I used that to put Honest Abe on an elephant using two images. One from the net and one I shot at the zoo. All I input was "put the man on the elephant."

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He just doesn't look 'honest' in that shot...

-M
 
Help me out here. I'm told that tools like Nano Banana and Adobe's Generative Expand still have very low pixel limits (around 1024). So. if you work on a piece of an image that is larger than that you get garbage. That's certainly my experience using Generative Expand on a 6720x4480 image. I've seen a few videos on how to get around that, but the steps seem pretty silly.
You are 100% correct Redcrown. The biggest downside right now to Ai, is the resolution limits. No question about that.
So, what's going to happen? Are we currently in an "addiction" phase -- being shown exciting potential soon to be followed by the real thing for a significant fee. What good is a blurry Lincoln on a blurry elephant?
That is the down side right now, in that this is an evolving process, and how long it takes for these Ai Models to allow higher resolution. I am sure that will be forthcoming in the near future, but the question is, how long will it take?

Right now, the Ai Software is being bogged down by users, and that is with very limited resolution. Imagine the same number of users, trying to create 20-40 mb files, or even panorama files. The systems would come to a standstill and it would take hours to create any images. So, that is why they are limiting resolution right now in my opinion, to see what it does to their systems.

I had had some creations that took 20-30 seconds, and I have had a few that took up to a minute, and I am working with a brand new MacBook Pro with M3 Max Chip.
Hardware is being updated quickly and is required for larger models. Eventually someone has to pay for it.
 

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