move from G9ii to OM-1ii?

In case this helps, I wrote a detailed report after using both bodies for an extended time: https://thisbeautifulplanet.de/panasonic-g9ii-vs-omds-om-1-compared-for-bird-shooting. This concentrates on bird shooting but has plenty of generic information, too.

Wrote this report a while ago. To be honest, I recently sold the G9ii, in spite of what I said at the end of my report. The body just did not add enough value. I own two Panasonic lenses (50-200 and 100-400), and still prefer using them on my OM-1 and OM-1ii.
 
I own both the G9ii and OM-1.2. Ergonomically I prefer the OM-1.2 grip but operationally there are some things I don't like about the OM-1.2 like the power switch on the left hand side. I am keeping both and use the G9ii as my video camera and use the OM-1.2 with the 150-400mm. I wish Panasonic would separate the G9ii Animal subject detection into Bird and Animal (Four legged animals). I think having them together slows down the bird subject detection performance.
 
In case this helps, I wrote a detailed report after using both bodies for an extended time: https://thisbeautifulplanet.de/panasonic-g9ii-vs-omds-om-1-compared-for-bird-shooting. This concentrates on bird shooting but has plenty of generic information, too.

Wrote this report a while ago. To be honest, I recently sold the G9ii, in spite of what I said at the end of my report. The body just did not add enough value. I own two Panasonic lenses (50-200 and 100-400), and still prefer using them on my OM-1 and OM-1ii.
Exactly the type of thing I was looking for, thank you - bookmarked for later because I'm working right now!
 
I have the G9 II and in my hands it does not "feel like a brick". I am about to turn 69 years old, but the G9 II is a great camera for me.
I'm happy for you :) It is a great camera for me too, mostly! A lot of it is subjective. If it was only aesthetics I wouldn't be thinking about it. But ergonomically, relative to the G9, it doesn't feel anywhere near as comfortable in my hand and my aching finger joints complain, especially after while shooting with the 100-400 attached. I appreciate others with different size hands, strength, use etc might have a very different experience.
 
The only thing I really miss from the G9 is the top info plate and the ability to have near and far focus buttons set up.
The OM-1 cameras have an internal focus limiter option, plus the OP’s PL100-400 has its own full/far focus limiter.
Yeah, it's the near and far focus that I have set to the front buttons that "nudge" the focus when it decides to focus on the branch behind the subject etc. As opposed to the limiter switches.
I use the PL100-400 with my OM-1 II and the internal camera stabilization alone works better than the lens OIS alone. The IBIS allows for faster bird detect focus lock on BiFs than with the OIS alone.
Good to know, thanks.
 
Appreciate all the responses with great information - no nearer to deciding :) One thing is definite - hands on experience in a shop (more than a quick fondle) or even renting it should be my next step. And of course the G9ii is a great camera and I feel privileged to have it.
 
I also found the loss of the 5MP noticeable if you crop.
Ikolbyl,

Way back with Oly E1 it was said that to double the 5mp resolution you needed to go to 20mp.

As Oly went from 5mp to 8mp it really wasn’t a gigantic increase in resolution, although appreciated. It was a larger increase than going from 16 to 20.

Going from 16mp to 20mp was hardly worth upgrading for if resolution was the driving motivation. They needed 4x increase in mp to double the resolution.

25mp increase from 20mp is similar increase. Everybody’s different, but I don’t know if most would notice such a minimal loss.

Best Regards,
Bernard
 
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Well, it --appears-- that my E-M1X does 'dual IS' with the Panasonic 45-200mm. Whether this is 'officially' supported is another question. As OIS is essentially independent of IBIS, not sure how it could be incompatible.

It's not a combination I would use very often though, I'll try to post some samples when I get a chance...
 
Well, looking at your gear list, looks like you took the plunge for the OM-1ii. Any thoughts?
 
Ever since I upgraded my G9 to the G9ii I've had a love hate relationship with it.

I'm familiar with the interface, performance, buttons etc and love the camera but but I've always struggled with it feeling like a brick. It just doesn't feel right in my hands.

I've held the OM-1ii in shops and it's a bit like the distracted boyfriend meme - I keep looking at it and thinking about it. It reminds me of the smoother curves and comfort of my old G9. It just feels right and I can see myself snuggling up to it on cold winter nights in front of the fire (OK, I'm going a bit far now)

Most reviews say choose G9ii if interested in video but other than that it seems to be 6 and half a dozen.

I have a PL100-400, and a mix of other Oly and Panny lenses, shoot wildlife, landscapes etc.

My main worry is that I'd lose something I didn't expect if I switched.

Has anyone had the same feeling, made the same switch, have anything to persuade me either way?
You wont lose anything for stills photography. Maybe a few video goodies.

I have the Om1 II and tried out the G9II and I didn't care for it.

I prefer the Om1 II and use it with a variety of lenses one of which is the Panasonic 100-400mm.
 
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Well, it --appears-- that my E-M1X does 'dual IS' with the Panasonic 45-200mm. Whether this is 'officially' supported is another question. As OIS is essentially independent of IBIS, not sure how it could be incompatible.
It's not a combination I would use very often though, I'll try to post some samples when I get a chance...
Unless there's a little-known software hack, the E-M1X will automatically use IBIS only unless you select "lens IS priority ON" in the menu. It's either/or but not both.

IBIS should be much more effective but it's okay to experiment.

Cheers,

Rick
 
Well, it --appears-- that my E-M1X does 'dual IS' with the Panasonic 45-200mm. Whether this is 'officially' supported is another question. As OIS is essentially independent of IBIS, not sure how it could be incompatible.
It's not a combination I would use very often though, I'll try to post some samples when I get a chance...
Unless there's a little-known software hack, the E-M1X will automatically use IBIS only unless you select "lens IS priority ON" in the menu. It's either/or but not both.

IBIS should be much more effective but it's okay to experiment.

Cheers,

Rick
Actually it appears to be a fully documented 'hardware hack' ;-)

1) I Just confirmed that both O.I.S. and IBIS work simultaneously with the 45-200MM with E-M1X. And yes, they also work together on my E-M10mk3

2) ...and confirmed what you said (pg 512 in my manual) -- "When using a third-party lens with an on-board image stabilizer, choose whether image stabilization gives priority to the camera or the lens...

3) But then... "This option has no effect if the lens is equipped with an IS switch that can be used to enable or disable image stabilization."

Translation: Lens IS priority ON gives IS priority to the lens, but only if there is NO HARDWARE SWITCH.

So the docs are correct but unclear. Bottom line; both OIS and IBIS will work at the same time, but ONLY if the lens has an OIS enable/disable switch, AND the switch is set to on/enable.

Now I'm curious if I actually get more I.S. stops when using both together. Need to come up with a test procedure...
 
Hi, I switched from the G9 mk1 to the OM-1 mk1 when it released. Having the Pana 100-400mm too, I only lost dual IS. That has never bothered me, the lens IS is good enough for what I do: Photography of wildlife in general, and birds in flight (in which case I deactivate any stabilization). I also do the occasional landscape.

All my photography is handheld.

For video, you indeed lose the flexibility that Panasonic offers when it comes to the format, codecs etc.

With OM, you want 10 bits? Then you have to use Log. No way around that.

OM Systems is oriented towards nature photography: video is kind of an afterthought.

Feel free to ask any questions, I'll do my best to answer
Useful stuff, thanks for responding. Losing Dual IS sounds drastic but from everything I've read it isn't really a big deal.

I have glasses and the G9 viewfinder magnification options were great - lost that at the mkii but still very usable, though seeing the whole frame is a stretch. I'm hoping the OM-1 will be OK but that's something to test in a store.
Are you sure you'd be losing Dual-IS? My E-M1X will do that, but I'm not sure it will work with all OIS lenses.
Update: It appears that Olympus/OMSystems cameras WILL do Dual-IS with O.I.S. lenses, but only if the O.I.S. lens has a manual on-off switch for the I.S. feature.

I've confirmed this with the Panasonic 45-200mm MegaOIS on E-M1x and on OMD-E-M10iii
 
Well, looking at your gear list, looks like you took the plunge for the OM-1ii. Any thoughts?
I did and posted about it


and did eventually sell my G9M2.

Having just come back from a holiday I appreciated the compactness (small but significant differences) of the OM-1ii as a travel camera way more than I thought.

I'm not too interested in video so there was no sacrifice in that respect. Other than video, there are lots of small pros and cons for both and, TBH, I would have been OK sticking with my G9II. Before I sold it I kept picking it up thinking how much I liked it!
 
Well, looking at your gear list, looks like you took the plunge for the OM-1ii. Any thoughts?
I did and posted about it

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/68298313

and did eventually sell my G9M2.

Having just come back from a holiday I appreciated the compactness (small but significant differences) of the OM-1ii as a travel camera way more than I thought.

I'm not too interested in video so there was no sacrifice in that respect. Other than video, there are lots of small pros and cons for both and, TBH, I would have been OK sticking with my G9II. Before I sold it I kept picking it up thinking how much I liked it!
Owning both the OM-1.1 & G9.2 I always claim they compliment each other more than compete.

To really get the true performance from these cameras, you need to use native lens. I find when you mix/match lenses AF speed and IS stops degrade.



strength of OM-1: more compact size and performance speed king. Better for travel and sports/wildlife.

strenght of G9.2: video….video ….video, macro, landscape, and portrait photography. The extra 5MP detail is a large enough difference to justify its sensor over the smaller 20MP when you require extra details.

if you just want a quality general purpose camera that do-all and capture family moments, then the OM-1 wins because it is simpler to use.

if you want a feature-rich tool that can do broadcasting and detailed stills, then the G9.2 is for you.
 
Owning both the OM-1.1 & G9.2 I always claim they compliment each other more than compete.
Yeah, I think it's better to have both than to only choose 1 - that's why I own both.
 
I have the G9 II and in my hands it does not "feel like a brick". I am about to turn 69 years old, but the G9 II is a great camera for me.
I'm happy for you :) It is a great camera for me too, mostly! A lot of it is subjective. If it was only aesthetics I wouldn't be thinking about it. But ergonomically, relative to the G9, it doesn't feel anywhere near as comfortable in my hand and my aching finger joints complain, especially after while shooting with the 100-400 attached. I appreciate others with different size hands, strength, use etc might have a very different experience.
I think the texture of the surface doesn't "feel" as comfortable. I might be wrong but the G9 feels more rubberised and soft as a result.

Having said that, it wasn't that much that I actually felt I was holding something uncomfortable with the G9M2. I knew I was holding something that felt a little different but otherwise fine.

I wonder if some of the stick on stuff some use would help?
 

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