Prepare to say goodbye to the real DPR

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Some web designers and operators believe a well-designed web site should keep visitors on site longer. A new site with a slower layout, can accomplish this by not allowing the visitor to efficiently move on thru. In short, "follow the money trail".

The current legacy DPR website is one of kind, which has clearly stood the test of time. It still is the most user friendly and has the most efficient flow unmatched by any recent forum-based sites. Trashing this time proven site, for yet to be explained in any real detail, shows no logic and raises more questions than answers.
 
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Some web designers and operators believe a well-designed web site should keep visitors on site longer. A new site with a slower layout, can accomplish this by not allowing the visitor to efficiently move on thru. In short, "follow the money trail".

The current legacy DPR website is one of kind, which has clearly stood the test of time. It still is the most user friendly and has the most efficient flow unmatched by any recent forum-based sites. Trashing this time proven site, for yet to be explained in any real detail, shows no logic and raises more questions than answers.
I'll wait and see before making any declaration.
 
Purveyors of doom and gloom stifle progress. Sure, it's been a great site, but that doesn't mean it can't be better.
We will see how that progress works out when the Thread View disappears. User interaction significantly dropping is my bet. Longer times on site for those willing to tolerate the slower layout.
 
Some web designers and operators believe a well-designed web site should keep visitors on site longer. A new site with a slower layout, can accomplish this by not allowing the visitor to efficiently move on thru. In short, "follow the money trail".

The current legacy DPR website is one of kind, which has clearly stood the test of time. It still is the most user friendly and has the most efficient flow unmatched by any recent forum-based sites. Trashing this time proven site, for yet to be explained in any real detail, shows no logic and raises more questions than answers.
I'll wait and see before making any declaration.
I am hoping for it to work out for the best, but odds of DPR being another clumsy forum clone is my bet.
 
Well, seeing how slow this forum reacts sometimes, it will be a delight to come to a new forum software. I can't wait. Get it done. 😃

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Some web designers and operators believe a well-designed web site should keep visitors on site longer. A new site with a slower layout, can accomplish this by not allowing the visitor to efficiently move on thru. In short, "follow the money trail".

The current legacy DPR website is one of kind, which has clearly stood the test of time. It still is the most user friendly and has the most efficient flow unmatched by any recent forum-based sites. Trashing this time proven site, for yet to be explained in any real detail, shows no logic and raises more questions than answers.
This strategy is common in retail stores and websites. It's all about increasing "dwell time." Studies have shown that increasing the dwell time in a store by 1% increases the sales by over 1%. That's the reason of the in isle display one has to navigate in your local grocery. That's the reason for frequently rearranging items on the shelves. Slow people down and they will spend more and more money.

For example in the old days where music came on vinyl and later CD's in record stores, the stores were laid out to incentive the customer to browse. The longer you were there the more likely you would find something you just had to have, say a copy of the first release of Chicago, anthology of Miles Davis, etc. The longer you send in a large camera store - the more likely you are to find something you "just have to have."


Dwell time is also important to web based businesses.


On websites it seems to be important in the Google assessment of your web site in their ranking of responses. Why is Google ranking important - it ties to what a website owner can charge for advertising.


This is a well established practice in marketing. Did it play any role in DPR's hosting S/W decision - only those that made the selection and management know.
 
Anything that improves the performance of the forum is a plus. Not sure if it's a server thing or what, but accessing the forums at times is god awful slow. I'm using Gig fiber Internet, so it's not on my end.
 
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Some web designers and operators believe a well-designed web site should keep visitors on site longer. A new site with a slower layout, can accomplish this by not allowing the visitor to efficiently move on thru. In short, "follow the money trail".

The current legacy DPR website is one of kind, which has clearly stood the test of time. It still is the most user friendly and has the most efficient flow unmatched by any recent forum-based sites. Trashing this time proven site, for yet to be explained in any real detail, shows no logic and raises more questions than answers.
This strategy is common in retail stores and websites. It's all about increasing "dwell time." Studies have shown that increasing the dwell time in a store by 1% increases the sales by over 1%. That's the reason of the in isle display one has to navigate in your local grocery. That's the reason for frequently rearranging items on the shelves. Slow people down and they will spend more and more money.

For example in the old days where music came on vinyl and later CD's in record stores, the stores were laid out to incentive the customer to browse. The longer you were there the more likely you would find something you just had to have, say a copy of the first release of Chicago, anthology of Miles Davis, etc. The longer you send in a large camera store - the more likely you are to find something you "just have to have."

https://cloudcovermusic.com/brick-and-mortar-guide/increase-dwell-time

Dwell time is also important to web based businesses.

https://www.salishseaconsulting.com/blog/what-is-dwell-time/

On websites it seems to be important in the Google assessment of your web site in their ranking of responses. Why is Google ranking important - it ties to what a website owner can charge for advertising.

https://tinyfrog.com/boost-website-dwell-time/

This is a well established practice in marketing. Did it play any role in DPR's hosting S/W decision - only those that made the selection and management know.
Thank You Truman

Dwell time..., I hadn't heard that term before. Also, thanks for the links and explanations. The new prepackaged software for DPR will certainly increase dwell time. We will never know if that was in their plans or not.
 
People reflexively dislike change, but sometimes it's inevitable.

I'll reserve my judgement until I see the new format here.

If it's anything like the bass forum that had a major makeover last year, some people will freak out for a while – and the site will keep going strong regardless.
 
….. it would be appropriate to see the result before disparaging it.
I hope your positive trust in management is correct. I wish this site success as much as anyone on this "thread".

As it is so nicely laid out in the "Thread View" btw. (-:
 
….. it would be appropriate to see the result before disparaging it.
I hope your positive trust in management is correct. I wish this site success as much as anyone on this "thread".
On the other hand, someone could say they hope your negative attitude towards management is incorrect :-)

The concept of trust does not apply. Would you not agree that waiting for facts before forming expressing an opinion is a sound method ?

To do otherwise risks being mistaken for a prominent politician :-) :-)

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DPR has always been unique. If it is going to morph into a site like all the other sites out there, what's the point of adding another XF clone. Maybe it would more humane to just let it die.
 
My observation is that the slowness of this site (taking 10-15 seconds to change posts, for example) is a server/network issue not a code issue. So, I have to hope that they will put the new software on new hardware and not on the existing platform.

Alan
 
My observation is that the slowness of this site (taking 10-15 seconds to change posts, for example) is a server/network issue not a code issue.
How did you observe that? Those things are often connected.
So, I have to hope that they will put the new software on new hardware and not on the existing platform.

Alan
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My observation is that the slowness of this site (taking 10-15 seconds to change posts, for example) is a server/network issue not a code issue. So, I have to hope that they will put the new software on new hardware and not on the existing platform.

Alan
I'm inclined to agree, but since current owners don't have the options of Amazon regarding service quality they may have an uphill battle.
 
My observation is that the slowness of this site (taking 10-15 seconds to change posts, for example) is a server/network issue not a code issue.
How did you observe that? Those things are often connected.
I've been in IT for over 50 years. You get a feel for why things are the way they are.

Alan
 
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