And I as a threaded viewer don't want to have to navigate and read 6 pages. As the voting results make clear, there is a need of threaded view and flat view. Both should be available.
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VOTE: Threaded view - YES or NO?
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That's exactly what I have noticed many times, and one of the reasons I can't stand "threaded", it's a bunch of isolated conversations.
yes the point has been made several times already but maybe not in the thread you are following....(this is meant just for fun but it does happen often enough ...)
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That is why I started this poll ... to get some useful insights/statistics of how users view the forum. Based on the outcome useful decisions can (and should) be made.
GodSpeaks
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I never use flat view and I don't like it.
felix from the suburbs
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Not sure how accurate this poll would be as I suspect that some of us who would qualify as "I don't care" wouldn't bother to vote as they really don't care.
Ken53
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FWIW
Some web designers believe a well-designed web site, keeps visitors longer by slowing the natural flow, rather than allowing the visitor to efficiently move on thru in less time. In short, "follow the money trail".
EDIT: This legacy DPR website is one of kind, which has stood the test of time. It is the most user friendly and has the most efficient flow unmatched by any recent sites. Trashing this time proven site, for yet to be explained details shows no ethical logic and raises more questions then answers.
Some web designers believe a well-designed web site, keeps visitors longer by slowing the natural flow, rather than allowing the visitor to efficiently move on thru in less time. In short, "follow the money trail".
EDIT: This legacy DPR website is one of kind, which has stood the test of time. It is the most user friendly and has the most efficient flow unmatched by any recent sites. Trashing this time proven site, for yet to be explained details shows no ethical logic and raises more questions then answers.
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atom14
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A bit too baby-and-bathwaterish an approach to be considered seriously.
Some people know no better than to do what you describe, but by far and away, not all. The feature is implemented in every one of 4 forums I'm on, and it doesn't pose such a big problem.
Apologies for quoting you.
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19andrew47
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I have tried, I can not, that is the reason I am here and not elsewhere. Now that will change. Commenting on individual image posts within a long thread is tedious. I don't enjoy it and rarely visit the non threaded sites any more. DPR will join that group in all probability.
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Maybe the people who have the strongest opinion either way voted sooner.When I looked at the poll results yesterday, the number of votes saying the forum must have threaded view outnumbered the other combined categories by about two to one.
Today, the number of votes saying the forum must have threaded view total slightly less than the other combined categories.
What does that indicate? It might indicate that the members who visit most frequently are the members most likely to want threaded view, and other members who don't visit as often (and thus they didn't see the poll until today) don't need threaded view.
Or it might indicate that members who don't need threaded view just take longer to consider the question before voting.
Or ... ?
the numbers aren’t very big in relation to what I think is the user base. Maybe many don’t care for the polls feature
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But this poll does not provide anything useful. By combining two questions of which one is rather manipulative and not giving all possible answers it is flawed.
the sad truth is that many just cannot be bothered. I post a lot of photos on Face Book and every so often I get comments from people I know about how they like my photos or posts yet they never even bother to put a like on them. To be clear , I am not after those likes , it is simply matter of letting others know... but they do not.Maybe the people who have the strongest opinion either way voted sooner.When I looked at the poll results yesterday, the number of votes saying the forum must have threaded view outnumbered the other combined categories by about two to one.
Today, the number of votes saying the forum must have threaded view total slightly less than the other combined categories.
What does that indicate? It might indicate that the members who visit most frequently are the members most likely to want threaded view, and other members who don't visit as often (and thus they didn't see the poll until today) don't need threaded view.
Or it might indicate that members who don't need threaded view just take longer to consider the question before voting.
Or ... ?
the numbers aren’t very big in relation to what I think is the user base. Maybe many don’t care for the polls feature
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At dpreview, everything becomes a battle... Here what is important is that lot's of members want to keep the threaded view and everybody can be happy.When I looked at the poll results yesterday, the number of votes saying the forum must have threaded view outnumbered the other combined categories by about two to one.
Today, the number of votes saying the forum must have threaded view total slightly less than the other combined categories.
What does that indicate? It might indicate that the members who visit most frequently are the members most likely to want threaded view, and other members who don't visit as often (and thus they didn't see the poll until today) don't need threaded view.
Or it might indicate that members who don't need threaded view just take longer to consider the question before voting.
Or ... ?
If some people hate the threaded view, no problems, just do not use it. Simple.
I absolutely hate the threaded view. So get rid of it as fast as they can.
Ken Barley
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All software dies eventually, be it because of changes to the operating system, hardware or because it is no longer maintainable. DPR is creaking towards that fate.
There are two options:
Because I am not a regular poster (less than 150 in 20 years) but a regular reader I fail to understand threaded view and never use it.
And as for quoting earlier comments! A vast screed of multi-coloured stuff followed by “+1”. Scrap it and good riddance.
And the post about upcoming changes with no posting limit shows up the deficiencies of not have “Last Page” as an option!
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There are two options:
- Tweak a package. Accept the differences
- Write your own. Incredibly expensive, and bound to be different anyway. With ongoing maintenance costs
Because I am not a regular poster (less than 150 in 20 years) but a regular reader I fail to understand threaded view and never use it.
And as for quoting earlier comments! A vast screed of multi-coloured stuff followed by “+1”. Scrap it and good riddance.
And the post about upcoming changes with no posting limit shows up the deficiencies of not have “Last Page” as an option!
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If it was really simple. But apart from the technical side, the way people use the site is different, leading to a suboptimal user experience for all.At dpreview, everything becomes a battle... Here what is important is that lot's of members want to keep the threaded view and everybody can be happy.When I looked at the poll results yesterday, the number of votes saying the forum must have threaded view outnumbered the other combined categories by about two to one.
Today, the number of votes saying the forum must have threaded view total slightly less than the other combined categories.
What does that indicate? It might indicate that the members who visit most frequently are the members most likely to want threaded view, and other members who don't visit as often (and thus they didn't see the poll until today) don't need threaded view.
Or it might indicate that members who don't need threaded view just take longer to consider the question before voting.
Or ... ?
If some people hate the threaded view, no problems, just do not use it. Simple.
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I use "Reply with quote", and delete all but the necessary text (and usually all the pictures). Sadly many people's keyboards don't seem to have a delete key... :-(
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agreed
I always felt it shouldn’t turn pink, but fade out to grey.
One site I visit when you quote Shows only the first five lines with an option to expand.
Go to last post would be nice. Also the option to see what replies you got to a post.
it will be this sort of relatively small tweaks that will make for a nice UX.
Yes and I do that too but it is a bit too much of an effort for some.
Failing to understand the benefits might inspire a more humble attitude towards the experience of those who actually contribute to the site, instead of dismissing their concerns.
Again, feel welcome to enjoy the benefits of others' contributions, but superficiality hardly qualifies you opinion.
Please keep reading. Every second you spend here counts, but if all contibutors leave, attendance would fall as well.
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