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$$$. A $1200 entry level OM-5.2 with a m43 sensor camera is a bit steep.
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What would you like to see next from OM?
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Having both the G9.2 (same body as S5 II) and S1R.2, I prefer the S1R.2 buttons and ergonomics layout.I really dislike my S5 II, which is similar in size and ergonomics. I would hope that an L-Mount body from OMS would be more similar to the OM-1.OM FF is called L-Mount, either Lumix or Leica.There are 4 FF mirrorless mounts used by at least 6 major body makers. 3 of the mounts also support APSC lenses and sensors. There are many 3rd party lens makers supplying these mounts, especially E mount.I actually do want a FF OM System.
Why do you want an OM FF offer and how could they differentiate it and survive a long period of loss-making while building their brand?
Andrew
If you are interested in FF, I strongly encourage everyone take a look at the S1.2e
There are differences.
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FrankPhilipGroehl
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Well said. For me a bigger touch screen (i.e. 3,2 inch) or at least the small 3.0 inch multi-angle Pana-solution of their S-series or similar, real 120 fps slowmo with C-AF as you mention and GPS in camera would be great. Further finetuning of AF software should be self-evident... consequences of my wishlist would be a slightly bigger body design somewhat btw OM-1 and M1X size, I guess...
Om1 III - Maybe more mp if it does not affect the high ISO IQ. Increase the accuracy of tracking AF to a level of the Sony A1 II.
Pan 12-60mm 2.8-4 II that has less copy variation or better yet a 12-60mm F2.8.
Assuming they could license the technology from Nikon...
300mm F2.8 PF
400mm f4 PF
600mm F5.6 PF
800mm F6.3 PF
gary0319
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True, but a nice pre-owned E-M5 III at about $700 seems a good entry level option.
Sam Bennett
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That's fine if you're an enthusiast willing to take the risk on a used camera. But OMS can't count on that to draw "normal" people into the system. They need a camera positioned around $700 for budget-conscious folks. This is camera marketing 101. Everyone does it, and I don't think OMS can be the exception here.
Kevin Stephens
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Although I think Pentax may have the patent on this?
Kevin Stephens
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But that would mean smaller pixels and restricted dynamic range and more noise. Olympus reduced the pixel count in a previous upgrade of its TG series waterproof compact for this very reason
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MJ_Photo38
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As far as I'm aware, the OM-5 doesn't have a tilt up screen and a pop-up flash, does it? It also wasn't released et $700 was it?
Sam Bennett
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But still gigantic. I know this is a really subjective thing, so if you're happy with the size - more power to you. But it is well into "too big" category for me. I get it, they made these so they could be cooled more effectively when used for video - but I don't care about video, so the size is of no benefit to me.Having both the G9.2 (same body as S5 II) and S1R.2, I prefer the S1R.2 buttons and ergonomics layout.I really dislike my S5 II, which is similar in size and ergonomics. I would hope that an L-Mount body from OMS would be more similar to the OM-1.OM FF is called L-Mount, either Lumix or Leica.There are 4 FF mirrorless mounts used by at least 6 major body makers. 3 of the mounts also support APSC lenses and sensors. There are many 3rd party lens makers supplying these mounts, especially E mount.I actually do want a FF OM System.
Why do you want an OM FF offer and how could they differentiate it and survive a long period of loss-making while building their brand?
Andrew
If you are interested in FF, I strongly encourage everyone take a look at the S1.2e
There are differences.
That said, I may replace my S5 II with the S1 II eventually to get the better speed, sensor, etc. I don't think there's another FF system I'd be willing to jump over to at this point. That's why I would welcome OMS entering the mount (but I will not get my hopes up there).
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I'd like them to do something that increases market share so that they can stay in business.
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A 300mm f/2.8 that weighs only 200g more than the f/4 sounds tempting. The Sony is 1470g, only 200g heavier than the Olympus f/4. I used to have the Olympus Zuiko 300/2.8; way too heavy at about 3300g. But then I think of how I would use it. Wouldn't work for my general birding, because I really need the zoom to find my subjects. If the lens was great with a 2x TC, then I could have used it in Denali a few days ago. I needed my TCs a couple of times on the 150-400. But I couldn't leave my 150-400 behind, and traveling with that lens already stresses my carry-on limits.
I need an FL-LM3 update that has a battery so I can use it on my OM-5ii.
I really want them to stop putting grip material on the back of the LCD on the OM-1's because it gets messed up from sunscreen and bug repellent. One of mine is already needing replacement.
From a software standpoint:
- I could really use the ability to change custom settings while the buffer is being cleared, rather than have to wait.
- I could use a maximum aperture setting for S mode (minimum f/number).
- Fix the AF Limiter interface so it can be used quickly; set limits with current focus distance.
- Add more custom settings that can be named, and allow saving them to memory card. They don't have to have a spot on the mode dial.
- Add the ability to switch drive mode and shutter speed with the Fn lever.
Vahur Krouverk
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Om-1 with tilt screen. Or FAS+tilt, it’s just engineering problem and already solved.
Better handling of om-1 with gloves, meaning bigger and less flush buttons.
Better handling of om-1 with gloves, meaning bigger and less flush buttons.
Sam Bennett
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If they do it, I am willing to bet it will have IP-certified weather sealing of some sort. It's part of their "distinctive competency" (what other people see in them as being distinctive) and it's a core part of their messaging:
Whether that ends up being IP53 or IPX1, I don't know.
As for Computational Photography, I think you'll see it in there, but it will be more limited to what you see in the OM-5, and it would be "presented" differently. That's mainly software so there's no reason not to.
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MJ_Photo38
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pretty much every camera on the planet can be certified IPX1 though, that wouldn't tell muchIf they do it, I am willing to bet it will have IP-certified weather sealing of some sort. It's part of their "distinctive competency" (what other people see in them as being distinctive) and it's a core part of their messaging:
Whether that ends up being IP53 or IPX1, I don't know.
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Kevin Stephens
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I’d get a Pentax K1 DSLR and some good lenses. For landscapes.
gary0319
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From what I understand, these normal people that are wanting a dedicated camera are right now snapping up older fixed lens, and point and shoot cameras, not ILC cameras. A new $700 ILC camera + lens doesn't seem to fit either of those categories. Now, a fixed lens EP7 at around $900 might do the trick.
Sam Bennett
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They can be, but they are typically not. OMS, IIRC, is the only ILC manufacturer to actually go through the certification process (and publish the result). And again, I don't know what they'll try to get it certified for - I'm just saying that they likely will not try to have the same level of weather sealing for all bodies, so they can control costs.pretty much every camera on the planet can be certified IPX1 though, that wouldn't tell muchIf they do it, I am willing to bet it will have IP-certified weather sealing of some sort. It's part of their "distinctive competency" (what other people see in them as being distinctive) and it's a core part of their messaging:
Whether that ends up being IP53 or IPX1, I don't know.
- TG-7 - IP68
- OM-1 Mark II - IPX53
- OM-3 - IPX53
- OM-5 Mark II - IPX53
- OM-10 - ???
- E-P8 - ???
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