Jan Wegener put out an updated video about 6 days ago stating Sept 15 would likely not happen but it would in the next few weeks. We’ll see. Nothing wrong with my R6II.
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CANON R6III RELEASE UPDATE
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Except I'm not taking any of the rumored features (like those listed below) for granted yet. I'm wondering how much space Canon is wanting to leave between this body and the R5ii.
The R5ii is actually a good bit lighter than the R5 (OG). Of course the R5ii has a bunch of holes drilled into it though! ;-)
This would be really nice!!!
Another very welcome addition. I've had to be (patient?) with the R6ii a number of times when shooting action.
Indeed. Canon lives to upstage the other manuf! :-D
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I am in between jobs so I have time to spare so here I am trying to "predict the future"
There isn't much between R5II and R5 i.e 746g v 738g. The R5II is only a smidge heavier (https://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/side-by-side?products=canon_eosr5ii&products=canon_eosr5)
My guess is that R6 III will spill into the 700g and above weight class... Nikon are making their bodies heavier.
The Z6 III is at 760g is heavier than R5 II.
Canon don't have to make the R6 III lighter.. just light enough to prove on paper that they are not heavier than the competition. If Sony continue to keep a7 V in the same weight class as a7 IV then Canon at least have Nikon Z6 III to compare to.
They can keep the R6 II around for longer and not offer big discounts to better amortise the longer production runs and give the people who want a lighter body to pick the R6 II
(Even the RP is still available to be bought brand new, I hope it is from inventory and not new production runs)
I came to the conclusion that Canon are not going to let me have a 45mp sensor in a small photo-only body so ended up getting the R5 II ... really happy to pair it with 50 VCM and just now heard the rumour (unsubstantiated) that there might well be a 28 VCM
I think they need to come up with a higher res sensor in the R6 category so seems likely that is the one they will end up using.
It just wouldn't make sense to have R6iii announced straight after C50. Hopefully not too far away though
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I don't know where they got those numbers from, but the best thing to do is go straight to the horse's mouth...
https://www.usa.canon.com/shop/p/eos-r5-mark-ii
R5 + battery + CFe card: 738g
R5ii + battery + CFe card: 670g
It's possible that a CFe card (if they add it) plus a multi-angle tilting LCD display (if it gets one) could add a bit of weight. However I wouldn't put it past the Canon engineers to actually reduce the weight of the R6ii (now 680g with battery + SD card) like they did with the R5ii.
Which is part of their cachet and appeal.
OTOH one of my Nikon-toting shooting buddies has just purchased an entire OM System kit (OM-1 Mark II + lenses) to help ease that massive load!
And an even more apples-to-apples comparison would actually be the chunky ol' Z8 @ a hefty 910g!
Whenever I shoot with a Z8 combo (or the granddaddy Z9) I am so thankful to be shooting Canon. And for many reasons beyond weight alone!
That's my thinking too. The R6ii is extremely capable.
The R5ii is such a big step up. Simply a pleasure to shoot.
Folks are clamoring for higher res than 24 MP. Fine with me if it happens (and really not a big disappointment to me if it doesn't happen).
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The horse is wrong in this case. Europa to the resuce: https://www.canon-europe.com/cameras/eos-r5-mark-ii/specifications/
R5 II in the combo you mention is: 746g, empty it is 656g
R5 is 738g, empty 650g
R5II is actually slightly heavier than R5
Numbers of the Nikon cameras are correct.
Z8 is not as bad to handle as it is on paper though. The "volume" is bothering me more than the weight.
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Well I (and the rest of the good ol' USA) stand corrected! Apologies to cocoanud.
Bad horsey, Bad horsey.
I've shot with the Z8 enough to prefer the R5ii. Like I said, it's quite the chunk! And it's not just the ergo, it's the controls too. Even the siren call of that nifty tilting LCD wasn't enough to sway me.Numbers of the Nikon cameras are correct.
OTOH if the R6iii gets a tilting LCD...
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This will very likely be my next camera to tag team with an R8.
Will prob sell my R5. After getting used to R8 AF and size/weight I’m finding it less than ideal to going back to the R5. Totally spoilt of course as the R5 AF is already excellent.
Think this one could hit a sweet spot. Ngl kinda excited.
Will prob sell my R5. After getting used to R8 AF and size/weight I’m finding it less than ideal to going back to the R5. Totally spoilt of course as the R5 AF is already excellent.
Think this one could hit a sweet spot. Ngl kinda excited.
Maybe I didn't tare the scale correctly, but keeping the body cap on and Transcend 128GB CFe card, this is what I get.The horse is wrong in this case. Europa to the resuce: https://www.canon-europe.com/cameras/eos-r5-mark-ii/specifications/
R5 II in the combo you mention is: 746g, empty it is 656g
R5 is 738g, empty 650g
R5II is actually slightly heavier than R5
Numbers of the Nikon cameras are correct.
IIRC that 746g total weight must be with SD Card and no body cap.
Maybe R5 II is lighter in USA ;-)
I hope they like it. My guess is they probably will get frustrated and fall back to Nikon.
m43 or maybe even APS-C in my mind doesn't make sense these days. One can spend a lot of money and get pretty much the same bulk/weight as FF but give up on FF IQ with small format.
m43 especially starts becoming deceptively heavy when getting into the more capable bodies... and expensive to the point it stops making sense IMO
There are some very interesting features on Olympus such as the live ND Grad or the live time feature. But for 95% of the use cases FF blows m43 out of the water in terms of IQ. I don't believe OM System tracking AF is anywhere near as good as Canon/Sony/Nikon.
Nikon especially have come a long way from what I experienced with the Nikon Z6 I had in 2021... but Canon still probably has the edge.
+1. I started my FF mirrorless experience with a Nikon Z6. But then went and tried the Canon R6... sold all of my Olympus m43 and Nikon gear and have become a "Canon guy" since 2021.
It certainly is.
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I agree. I think Q1 '26 is more likely.
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LOL, that's what I had to do too!Maybe I didn't tare the scale correctly, but keeping the body cap on and Transcend 128GB CFe card, this is what I get.The horse is wrong in this case. Europa to the resuce: https://www.canon-europe.com/cameras/eos-r5-mark-ii/specifications/
R5 II in the combo you mention is: 746g, empty it is 656g
R5 is 738g, empty 650g
R5II is actually slightly heavier than R5
Numbers of the Nikon cameras are correct.
IIRC that 746g total weight must be with SD Card and no body cap.
Maybe R5 II is lighter in USA ;-)
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The Z9 (+180-600) is such a load that my friend was getting tired of it. Even the OM-1 Mkii alone makes quite a difference. But now she's looking at the (quite substantial) 150-400 f/4.5, which another friend of mine shoots with. Deceptively heavy indeed! ;-)
Neither Nikon nor OM appeal to me. I really like the direction Canon has gone.
Back in the Stone Age I shot Nikon SLR. It was the pro's choice (short of Hassy). When digital debuted, I shot a lot of Sony bridge cameras, plus a smattering of everything else. DSLRs took me to Canon, and I haven't looked back!
I'm glad Sony keeps pushing the envelope. It sure speeds technology along!It certainly is.
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I higher Mp sensor should be able to allow for less destruction from digital distortion correction. My A7RV has a setting that generates 27Mp full frame output from the 61Mp sensor. I don't know what actually happens in that pipeline, but it should be doing distortion corrections first and downsizing afterwards. That way the destruction should be less than a 27Mp sensor could provide.The Z9 (+180-600) is such a load that my friend was getting tired of it. Even the OM-1 Mkii alone makes quite a difference. But now she's looking at the (quite substantial) 150-400 f/4.5, which another friend of mine shoots with. Deceptively heavy indeed! ;-)
Neither Nikon nor OM appeal to me. I really like the direction Canon has gone.
Back in the Stone Age I shot Nikon SLR. It was the pro's choice (short of Hassy). When digital debuted, I shot a lot of Sony bridge cameras, plus a smattering of everything else. DSLRs took me to Canon, and I haven't looked back!
I'm glad Sony keeps pushing the envelope. It sure speeds technology along!
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This way a higher Mp-sensor helps to get smaller lenses, while increasing the Mp-count without limits calls for bigger and bigger lenses. That's actually not a benefit with people using dedicated cameras getting older while younger people use phones.
The same on R5 II, it is possible to get 24mp output.I higher Mp sensor should be able to allow for less destruction from digital distortion correction. My A7RV has a setting that generates 27Mp full frame output from the 61Mp sensor. I don't know what actually happens in that pipeline, but it should be doing distortion corrections first and downsizing afterwards. That way the destruction should be less than a 27Mp sensor could provide.The Z9 (+180-600) is such a load that my friend was getting tired of it. Even the OM-1 Mkii alone makes quite a difference. But now she's looking at the (quite substantial) 150-400 f/4.5, which another friend of mine shoots with. Deceptively heavy indeed! ;-)
Neither Nikon nor OM appeal to me. I really like the direction Canon has gone.
Back in the Stone Age I shot Nikon SLR. It was the pro's choice (short of Hassy). When digital debuted, I shot a lot of Sony bridge cameras, plus a smattering of everything else. DSLRs took me to Canon, and I haven't looked back!
I'm glad Sony keeps pushing the envelope. It sure speeds technology along!It certainly is.
Sony looms
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I think it is downsampling by "averaging" ... putting it very bluntly.
I suspect this might actually even help with cleaning up noise from a high ISO 45mp capture. The cost is obviously putting up with lower resolution. If one needs to magnify a downsampled file to the same ratio as 45mp then there are no real advantages. But if 24mp will work then I think there are advantages. I haven't really tested this yet on my R5 II.
A FF image? Vs a crop image? interesting!I higher Mp sensor should be able to allow for less destruction from digital distortion correction. My A7RV has a setting that generates 27Mp full frame output from the 61Mp sensor. I don't know what actually happens in that pipeline, but it should be doing distortion corrections first and downsizing afterwards. That way the destruction should be less than a 27Mp sensor could provide.The Z9 (+180-600) is such a load that my friend was getting tired of it. Even the OM-1 Mkii alone makes quite a difference. But now she's looking at the (quite substantial) 150-400 f/4.5, which another friend of mine shoots with. Deceptively heavy indeed! ;-)
Neither Nikon nor OM appeal to me. I really like the direction Canon has gone.
Back in the Stone Age I shot Nikon SLR. It was the pro's choice (short of Hassy). When digital debuted, I shot a lot of Sony bridge cameras, plus a smattering of everything else. DSLRs took me to Canon, and I haven't looked back!
I'm glad Sony keeps pushing the envelope. It sure speeds technology along!It certainly is.
Sony looms
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sounds good, but
do you have info on showing the less destruction? have they made this claim? is it even visible? if it is not visible, or not claimed, is this just theory, and maybe not real?
btw - I'd love to have a 32.5 * 1.6 * 1.6 = 83.2 mp FF sensor
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Ah, nice!
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