Can a Pixel phone outresolve a G9ii with a Pro lens?

Those are fascinating examples, Jim. They are as interesting as the examples in the G9ii-OM1-Pixel thread. There was a little girl, who had a little curl…

A

--
Infinite are the arguments of mages. Truth is a jewel with many facets. Ursula K LeGuin
Please feel free to edit any images that I post
 
Last edited:
Those are fascinating examples, Jim. They are as interesting as the examples in the G9ii-OM1-Pixel thread. There was a little girl, who had a little curl…

A
Funny coincidence...I saw Jim's comment and wondered how the Xiaomi 15 Ultra compares to my phone, so I looked it up on YouTube, watched a video, and then found the same comparison shot taken in this thread haha!


5:08
 
Last edited:
Those are fascinating examples, Jim. They are as interesting as the examples in the G9ii-OM1-Pixel thread. There was a little girl, who had a little curl…

A
Funny coincidence...I saw Jim's comment and wondered how the Xiaomi 15 Ultra compares to my phone, so I looked it up on YouTube, watched a video, and then found the same comparison shot taken in this thread haha!


5:08
My wife just got the latest iPhone yesterday. Her images are a big step up from her old iPhone or my old S20. I can see my OM5 has competition but still has some advantages.

I won’t be upgrading the S20 until the battery reaches end of life, like my wife’s old iPhone.

A
 
M43 is still a better overall performer, primarily because of the colors. The Pixel phone can get colors completely off sometimes because it's trying to make the image pop more, but it just looks fake. If it never messes up the colors like that, I would be happy to only travel with longer focal length lenses on my M43 cameras, and just use phone for 24mm and wider.
I travel with a Pixel and a EM1iii, currently shooting about 80% phone : 20% Em1iii, but that ratio can vary depending on where I am traveling and the subjects.

In regard to the Pixel colors, my standard methodology is I shoot RAW on the Em1iii and jpeg on the phone. I run everything through lightroom upon return and all the Pixel jpegs get the Saturation and Vibrance slider adjusted down which tames the colors. Easy to do as a preset. Doing something like that will probably increase your acceptance of the phone colors.

These aren't the greatest images to use to compare, they are good for some things, but they are saturated graphic images. I'd compare with some daylight scenes of typical subjects, some night shots, backlit, sunset, harsh lighting and people pictures for skin tones (google likes to automatically make everyone look better, evening out blemishes and skin tones) and also shoot some low light where the computational side of the phone gets ratcheted up and weirder things start getting introduced in the images.

I own the Pixel and it's quite good, but might be better to have to look at the results on a wider range of subjects as the Pixel will not show as well against the Em1iii in some of those at the scale of enlargement being used here on these scenes. The pixel will introduced things in shadows especially as the phone tries to punch above it's abilities in some of these scenarios. But it's no doubt the phones keep improving, I started with the pixel 3 and the evolution has been amazing.
a341e68856264e728b77e778b6d78df4.jpg
I rarely take the same scene with both my phone and my camera but in this case I came close so it's something to compare with the phone on the right in both with the phone set on the 50mb setting

3071a2d1284b49bfbeae491fcab74db9.jpg

03646f0fb98b404c917e24e1d105fcda.jpg

You can see how the phone is trying to make up for resolution in the details of the moai in the background and they look quite different
 
Last edited:
Those are fascinating examples, Jim. They are as interesting as the examples in the G9ii-OM1-Pixel thread. There was a little girl, who had a little curl…

A
Funny coincidence...I saw Jim's comment and wondered how the Xiaomi 15 Ultra compares to my phone, so I looked it up on YouTube, watched a video, and then found the same comparison shot taken in this thread haha!


5:08
My wife just got the latest iPhone yesterday. Her images are a big step up from her old iPhone or my old S20. I can see my OM5 has competition but still has some advantages.

I won’t be upgrading the S20 until the battery reaches end of life, like my wife’s old iPhone.

A
I have little interest in phones and I get an "upgrade" :-) when one of the kids change their phone . I have my daughters old S23 ultra, unfortunately she has moved on to apple and I have a strong aversion to apple software. So the S23 will be round for a while. I only use the phone as a phone for calls and occasional texts . So I could get bye with a potato phone

My brother would not have messed with the settings so his shots are whatever the cameras puts out . These shots are all taken in good light which helps.

--
Jim Stirling:
"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason, is like administering medicine to the dead." - Thomas Paine
Feel free to tinker with any photos I post
 
Last edited:
These aren't the greatest images to use to compare, they are good for some things
Yeah, I'm only interested in some things for the scope of this test. If you are interested in other things, you are more than welcome to contribute your own test shots in this thread!
 
These aren't the greatest images to use to compare, they are good for some things
Yeah, I'm only interested in some things for the scope of this test. If you are interested in other things, you are more than welcome to contribute your own test shots in this thread!
Interesting phone resolution comparison from just 2 weeks ago:

 
These aren't the greatest images to use to compare, they are good for some things
Yeah, I'm only interested in some things for the scope of this test. If you are interested in other things, you are more than welcome to contribute your own test shots in this thread!
I think I already did, and as I said it shows the pixel can't currently stand up when you don't cherry pick an image.
 
Last edited:
These aren't the greatest images to use to compare, they are good for some things
Yeah, I'm only interested in some things for the scope of this test. If you are interested in other things, you are more than welcome to contribute your own test shots in this thread!
I think I already did, and as I said it shows the pixel can't currently stand up when you don't cherry pick an image.
Thanks for the contribution!
 
Intrigued by the other thread's mentioning of the Vivo x200, I decided to test my Pixel 9 Pro's main camera (24mm equiv) against the G9ii with the 12-45/4 Pro at 24mm equiv.

I've always believed that phone cameras don't hold up to pixel peeping when it comes actually resolving real details. I thought they only appeared sharp when viewing small, but under heavy pixel peeping, the real details are either not there, or completely made up. I was very surprised to see that the phone is actually resolving more real details than the G9ii's single shot at the same equivalent focal length. Even compared to the HHHR shot, it's a bit of a toss up, depending where you're looking.

And...this isn't even the best phone on the market today when it comes to camera performance. This is no Vivo x200 Ultra. I certainly feel less bad now when I'm out and about without my camera. There are still distinct advantages to the G9ii, but this is an amazing result for a phone that doesn't even have the best camera. It adds literally no weight to my existing EDC (literally 0 grams, as I would carry a phone regardless), and it took me much less time to take the photo, not waiting forever for HHHR to process...and having to turn the dial to HHHR mode because the G9ii can't access it with a function button...

M43 is still a better overall performer, primarily because of the colors. The Pixel phone can get colors completely off sometimes because it's trying to make the image pop more, but it just looks fake. If it never messes up the colors like that, I would be happy to only travel with longer focal length lenses on my M43 cameras, and just use phone for 24mm and wider.

The original JPG from the Pixel photo stalls during the upload on DPreview. Not sure if exif from geodata is causing issues - if someone knows a better workaround I can upload the better quality version. I had to export a JPG off a JPG with PS (hence watermark) on my phone to remove the exif to get it to upload. The original file has even better IQ, but the difference is very very small.
There is more to megapixel count, heavy NR, and AI than meets the eye. Primary is lens resolution. Tiny phone camera lenses are often dirty & scratched. There is simply no way for a phone lens to out-resolve my 75mm f1.8 - even if the phone had a 1000 MP sensor.
 
There is simply no way for a phone lens to out-resolve my 75mm f1.8 - even if the phone had a 1000 MP sensor.
I used to think the same!
 
There is simply no way for a phone lens to out-resolve my 75mm f1.8 - even if the phone had a 1000 MP sensor.
I used to think the same!
Please share your best Pixel images with us. Am sure you have taken some great ones.
Check out my other thread comparing it with the OM-1 and G9ii!
I'm unafraid to post 75mm f1.8 SOOC photos without making a vague unlinked reference to a seemingly unrelated thread.

bc658060c11f4b20bdf977fd1a187c0a.jpg
 
Check out my other thread comparing it with the OM-1 and G9ii!
I'm unafraid to post 75mm f1.8 SOOC photos without making a vague unlinked reference to a seemingly unrelated thread.
Very interesting way of asking for a link, but here you go!

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4812399
It's 2025, and here we are pixel peeping and comparing m43 HHHR shots with phones to see a difference.

Think about that for a while.
 
Last edited:
Check out my other thread comparing it with the OM-1 and G9ii!
I'm unafraid to post 75mm f1.8 SOOC photos without making a vague unlinked reference to a seemingly unrelated thread.
Very interesting way of asking for a link, but here you go!

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4812399
It's 2025, and here we are pixel peeping and comparing m43 HHHR shots with phones to see a difference.

Think about that for a while.
Yeah...that's insane lol. And this isn't even the best phone camera. Not even one of the best. There are plenty of models between mine and the Vivo, and people are having to pixel peep at crazy zoom levels to find a flaw. And yeah, it's competing against a HHHR file, from the highest resolving M43 body.

Phones have come a long way.
 
Check out my other thread comparing it with the OM-1 and G9ii!
I'm unafraid to post 75mm f1.8 SOOC photos without making a vague unlinked reference to a seemingly unrelated thread.
Very interesting way of asking for a link, but here you go!

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4812399
It's 2025, and here we are pixel peeping and comparing m43 HHHR shots with phones to see a difference.

Think about that for a while.
Yeah...that's insane lol. And this isn't even the best phone camera. Not even one of the best. There are plenty of models between mine and the Vivo, and people are having to pixel peep at crazy zoom levels to find a flaw. And yeah, it's competing against a HHHR file, from the highest resolving M43 body.

Phones have come a long way.
The technology gap between phones and traditional cameras is widening fast. As does the gap in R&D expenditure widen exponentially. Imagine phones in 2-3 years.

Today's m43 entry level kit cameras that are priced like phones, do not have HHHR, not even HHR, some don't even afford to have stabilization.
 
Check out my other thread comparing it with the OM-1 and G9ii!
I'm unafraid to post 75mm f1.8 SOOC photos without making a vague unlinked reference to a seemingly unrelated thread.
Very interesting way of asking for a link, but here you go!

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4812399
It's 2025, and here we are pixel peeping and comparing m43 HHHR shots with phones to see a difference.

Think about that for a while.
Yeah...that's insane lol. And this isn't even the best phone camera. Not even one of the best. There are plenty of models between mine and the Vivo, and people are having to pixel peep at crazy zoom levels to find a flaw. And yeah, it's competing against a HHHR file, from the highest resolving M43 body.

Phones have come a long way.
The technology gap between phones and traditional cameras is widening fast. As does the gap in R&D expenditure widen exponentially. Imagine phones in 2-3 years.

Today's m43 entry level kit cameras that are priced like phones, do not have HHHR, not even HHR, some don't even afford to have stabilization.
That could be why Lumix and OMDS are hesitant to release a new E-M10 line kind of camera.
 

Keyboard shortcuts

Back
Top