i have never used faststone used to use photomechanic, but swapped that out for the excellent fastrawviewer, and now use ddp which is as fast as the others
Though they have substituted that by a: including 1tb of cloud with the plan, and b: making the acr engine much more versatile when it comes to using it for more Photoshop type developing, thus making Photoshop unnecessary if you don’t want to stump for it.
Lots of inaccurate information out there about the catalogue system. There is nothing to it. I’ve been using LR since 2011 and the only time I think about it is when I chat about it on forums. It’s just a database that works on the sidelines.
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Grandfathering means you were an active customer during any changes any company makes. They recognize this and give you a break. That is how grandfathering works. I don’t understand how someone feels they should get the same deal on discontinued products when they decide to become a customer after those changes. You have to wait for a sale.
On January 15th, 2025 Adobe discontinued the 20GB plan for $9.99 for “new customers” only. Only the 1TB plan was available for new customers after that date. DPReview had an article about it and it was all over the Retouching forums.
you don't have faststone
I was a photoshop and LR user for over a decade. I know what photoshop can do that LR can't. It is a big deal to double the price for both
When did you stop using LR?
Sorry for the delay. Whenever you look at any pricing click on details or compare plans. Scroll down and you will see that the Lr 1TB plan for $11.99 includes Portfolio. All plans come with it.
My point about the need for PS these days. Sure if you are a veteran user, new user curious about getting into design. I really can't see a new photo hobbyist really needing PS for anything. With masking you can accomplish most anything.
I'm an old holdout having used Photoshop since Ver 4 in 1996, then to Ver 5 which introduced Layers, along with Actions and eventually to CS-6 in 2012. I'd be amiss without Layers and Actions, but when Adobe went to subscription I opted to stay with my fully owned CS-6, and though it's outdated in some ways, I can do just about anything the later subscriptions versions offer through the use of Photoshop plugins, that are also bought, payed for, and owned, rather than "rented". ;-)
similar here, I used LR and PS for weddings and portrait sessions, and I lasted for 4-5 years with stand alone but then lost a series of 3 computers in just a few years and all kinds of things didn't survive, catalogs, software, cameras were replaced, etc.
As I said, no I don’t have faststone. It’s written right there in what you quoted.
Ok? So buy photoshop if you want it. No sure what DxO does that lightroom can’t, nor what it can do that approaches PS functionality - so as you are a dxo user I would image that’s a moot point no? Been years since I used anything other than NIC or pure raw from them, so maybe it has improved to photoshop type levels.
Yes there are quite a few long time PS users here. I prefer the rental system. Updates year round. If you skip a year with non rental you don't get the new version upgrades. I don't have to decide about updating every fall. My account starts and ends in a year. Not like non rentals where you buy the summer, a new version comes out in the fall and you have to pay to get it. Portfolio. I can always find $10 a month for my favourite hobby. Going to a movie is $50 and we went twice this month. I spend a lot on camera gear so that $10 to compliment it is nothing in the grand scene of things.
I prefer it too. Didn’t enjoy paying 800 bucks or whatever it was for Photoshop every couple of years back in the day
I've been using LR since 2011 and went through several desktops, laptops and external drives. Same catalogue from 2011 to 2025 which had version upgrades each and at times catalogue upgrades and never a single issue. Merged many travel catalogues used on laptops to the master desktop catalogue when I got home and every time it was flawless.
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Me neither. I got PS I think in 2007. I always upgraded both PS and LR before it went subscription. Much less expensive.
well, I spent a lot of time in forums in the old days where pro users had speed issues with LR because it was too bloated and they had to update their hardware
As I stated on another post there are long time users of PS that are used to and would miss layers. I think that is the key one. However any comparison to LR6 in 2018 to LrC14 today is like comparing apples to jet planes. Anyone who has not used it since LR6 would not recognize it. Adobe did not turn (as predicted) into a cash cow collecting money from subscribers while just sitting around and not giving anything back. Like I said before Adobe Denoise AI is saving me over $100 a year from dropping 3rd party apps. My editing is much easier because there are less decisions on which app to use.
Not anymore. Adobe has made performance improvements in the last several years. I can fly through 75+ edits which includes multiple masks and not even a hiccup. Even my lowly 2020 MacBook Air 16GB RAM flew.
Yes there a lot of presets available for LR.
That works
Thanks for taking the time to read and answer constructively.
Yeah you are about 6 months too late unless you don't need PS. There is always Affinity for that. However there is nothing wrong with PL. Good program. I was just never a fan of the company. Personal reasons we don't need to get into just like others who don't like Adobe and there are plenty of those :-D
Wow, forgot about Corel's Paintshop Pro. I messed with it early on, but settled on U-Lead Photo Impact which I used primarily prior to Photoshop.
