Asus proart p16 with 64gb vs Proart PX13 with 32?

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A little poll.

would you get the P16 with 64 gb and have the larger system or go for compact and get the PX13 with 32gb of ram?

Both a powerhouses for creative workloads. They trade blows when it comes to who is faster.

That extra 32gb of ram worth it?
 
A little poll.

would you get the P16 with 64 gb and have the larger system or go for compact and get the PX13 with 32gb of ram?

Both a powerhouses for creative workloads. They trade blows when it comes to who is faster.

That extra 32gb of ram worth it?
I have the Asus ProArt 16 2024 and it's very good. It is perfectly portable and fits and a backpack. A 13" may be a bit lighter, but it's not as good for photo editing where a bigger screen is a very nice feature. You can probably do well with either 32 or 64gb. More is better.
 
A little poll.

would you get the P16 with 64 gb and have the larger system or go for compact and get the PX13 with 32gb of ram?

Both a powerhouses for creative workloads. They trade blows when it comes to who is faster.

That extra 32gb of ram worth it?
I have the Asus ProArt 16 2024 and it's very good. It is perfectly portable and fits and a backpack. A 13" may be a bit lighter, but it's not as good for photo editing where a bigger screen is a very nice feature. You can probably do well with either 32 or 64gb. More is better.
Thanks. I am leaning towards the 16 because of the larger screen and the full sized sd card reader. It prbably much smaller than my old 17 inch acer 7720.
 
Probably depends on what you want to do. Editing video or big tiff stills, maybe go with more memory. Otherwise, it might be hard to make use of it.

I have a Proart desktop and love it. It's not the top of the line, but it does well and I see no need for more than 32 GB. I also have a new Samsung Book4 Ultra laptop with similar specs to the Asus and it also does well with 32 GB.

What I always want more of is local storage space. Usually easy enough to pop a second TB or two into the second slot.

One caveat- don't expect maximum battery life when you go for higher end video, more memory and extra storage!

Yes, I'm a huge Asus and Samsung fan!

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Probably depends on what you want to do. Editing video or big tiff stills, maybe go with more memory. Otherwise, it might be hard to make use of it.

I have a Proart desktop and love it. It's not the top of the line, but it does well and I see no need for more than 32 GB. I also have a new Samsung Book4 Ultra laptop with similar specs to the Asus and it also does well with 32 GB.

What I always want more of is local storage space. Usually easy enough to pop a second TB or two into the second slot.

One caveat- don't expect maximum battery life when you go for higher end video, more memory and extra storage!

Yes, I'm a huge Asus and Samsung fan!
I am usually near power at all times. Either in a hotel, cabin or our camper with LiPo battery installed.

My desktop is a dell xps with 128gb of ram. I do video, audio and photo editing etc on it and my current dell (I think that's dying a slow death) has 64gb.

I am going to probably buy the P16 by the fall and the wife the zenbook s16. I think the larger screen will be a bonus, and without the weight penalty as well.
 
What resolution are you shooting at/do you do anything memory intensive like a ton of layers? I'm thinking 32 should be enough for awhile but those are 2 things that could be issues.

As a secondary computer I'd lean towards the 13/more portable one to be able to more easily bring it to more places. If this was going to be your main machine it would be the 16"/64GB.
 
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What resolution are you shooting at/do you do anything memory intensive like a ton of layers?

As a secondary computer I'd lean towards the 13/more portable one to be able to more easily bring it to more places. If this was going to be your main machine it would be the 16"/64GB.
Good point. 4k is the max I would be shooting in. I may be doing tons of layers, It depends on the project. I think the 16 would be better because of the screen size doing projects on the road. I am finding my eyes getting way worse this past year and a bit. I have some sort of nerve degeneration and my eyesight is getting worse quickly. Even if I buy the 32gb version of the 16 , it might be benefical to me now that I look at it. I am on the 14 inch dell now, and I find it a little hard these days. I am moving to dual 27s from dual 24s too on my main system.
 
IMO, these 16" OLED monitors are really nice, though mine has an odd aspect ratio, 2880 x 1800 (3k).
 
What resolution are you shooting at/do you do anything memory intensive like a ton of layers?

As a secondary computer I'd lean towards the 13/more portable one to be able to more easily bring it to more places. If this was going to be your main machine it would be the 16"/64GB.
Good point. 4k is the max I would be shooting in. I may be doing tons of layers, It depends on the project. I think the 16 would be better because of the screen size doing projects on the road. I am finding my eyes getting way worse this past year and a bit. I have some sort of nerve degeneration and my eyesight is getting worse quickly. Even if I buy the 32gb version of the 16 , it might be benefical to me now that I look at it. I am on the 14 inch dell now, and I find it a little hard these days. I am moving to dual 27s from dual 24s too on my main system.
Ah that sucks, I'm sorry, definitely go for the 16 then unless there is some other deal breaker.
 
What resolution are you shooting at/do you do anything memory intensive like a ton of layers?

As a secondary computer I'd lean towards the 13/more portable one to be able to more easily bring it to more places. If this was going to be your main machine it would be the 16"/64GB.
Good point. 4k is the max I would be shooting in. I may be doing tons of layers, It depends on the project. I think the 16 would be better because of the screen size doing projects on the road. I am finding my eyes getting way worse this past year and a bit. I have some sort of nerve degeneration and my eyesight is getting worse quickly. Even if I buy the 32gb version of the 16 , it might be benefical to me now that I look at it. I am on the 14 inch dell now, and I find it a little hard these days. I am moving to dual 27s from dual 24s too on my main system.
Ah that sucks, I'm sorry, definitely go for the 16 then unless there is some other deal breaker.
that's what I am thinking too. No deal breaker with the P16 and S16 for the missus. It's acutally not that much bigger than my dell 14 by looking at it.
 
After doing more, much much more research, we have settled on getting new macbook air 15 inch. The weight, power, display price all make it worth it for us. I am ready to try something new. Again. Last time I had a macbook was in 2015, I hope with the M4 chipset my macs are much better than the intel system I had previously.

I think there are more 3rd party apps to do what I want as well when it comes to basic functionality as well. Windows is getting much worse even though i hate saying it, but it's time to tell MS with my money what they can do. It's been a battle this past couple of years trying to get all my windows systems working reliably.

My current laptop I am on now is needing reboots 3 or 4 times a day to keep wifi activated. All drivers etc are up to date. I got a cumulative update for 24H2 last week or so and everything went to poop after that. Fix one thing break 10 seems to be the way lately. Even though I use co-pilot for certain things, having baked into every facet of Microsoft is getting old. Come on, MS. really.

So, since my pc's are getting worse instead of better, time to move. I will probably be back sooner than later, but for right now, I gotta try the M side of things.
 
A little poll.

would you get the P16 with 64 gb and have the larger system or go for compact and get the PX13 with 32gb of ram?

Both a powerhouses for creative workloads. They trade blows when it comes to who is faster.

That extra 32gb of ram worth it?
 
A little poll.

would you get the P16 with 64 gb and have the larger system or go for compact and get the PX13 with 32gb of ram?

Both a powerhouses for creative workloads. They trade blows when it comes to who is faster.

That extra 32gb of ram worth it?
We have two ASUS Vivobook pro laptops. They have intel Core i9-13980HX processor, Nvidia 4070, 64gb RAM and Siemens 2TBbSSDs. 16" 3.2k 120HZ OLED.

These are our usually workhorses when travelling and manage our video (4k60,4k120,8k60) and image needs via Adobe ecosystem and also TOPAZ systems.

Very reliable, no crashes to date (over 18 months), screens are lovely, pretty quick (not as fast as our Dells with 5090s but there big and heavy).

Only complaint is battery life and that we manage via Anker 100Wh battery packs (so they can fly) and Anker 140W USB mains supplies.

Very impressive laptops but to run at maximum performance they just be powered by the DC port rather than USB (so if one is batch processing say 1000 images (regular for us) then use the original mains charger). Other than that USB C is fine.

We also run MATLAB and simulink on the machines along with other software apple can't support
Cool. All the software we will be using is available on Apples systems. The Asus systems are the only systems we would look at now. My dell is 5 years old (whenever the mac M1was released). But it's having mobo and software issues. Every time I boot up now I have to restart about 3 or 4 times as I get the dell logo to pop up then screen goes black. restart the dell logo shows, the spinning circle for the second, then it goes into dell recovery, then it restarted and goes into "automatic repair" restart again and it finally boots to windows. It's seems to be super sluggish lately too.

I am done with windows really. Nadella really effed it up royally during his time as some sort of leader for MS. Not a good one, that's for sure.
 
This is an interesting thread as to how it evolves from ASUS Proart to MacBook Air as the conclusion. The current MacBooks are quite good, so there are no bad choices.

I have been using Apple desktops and laptops over the last 30+ years, with an occasional Windows machine thrown in because of the variety of styles. My latest Mac is a M3 MacBook Air (2024) with the almost base specs (16GB RAM, 256GB SSD). I am not a power user and it processes still photos in a perfectly acceptable manner.

But I am trying an ASUS Zenbook A14 (14") model with 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD that was on sale at Best Buy. I quite like it, even with the smaller display. It is an OLED display that is 1920x1200 and is quite good. The key travel is 1.3mm and feels better to me than the MBA. I prefer the Ceraluminum finish to the MBA's aluminum. When I use an external keyboard with the MBA, I appreciate that it has a delete key – as does the ASUS laptop – as well as a backspace key.I also prefer Windows Hello facial recognition to the fingerprint access on the MBA.

The only thing I am really missing is DxO Photolab -- it is basically unusable with the Snapdragon X Plus processor, and it doesn't seem as though DxO will make a native version. The upshot is that I will use Affinity Photo, Luminar Neo, Faststone RAW viewer and be content, since I am not a professional and not inclined to do too much editing (darkroom work) if I can avoid it.
 
@ElliotV, your usage is similar to mine. I use Affinity, an old version of Luminar AI and a couple different RAW utilities. I find the processing power of almost anything modern is plenty for those. The only thing I use that really sucks up CPU and GPU is Topaz, and that's not something I use every day. IMHO, those OLED screens are really great!

I've done very little video and use Openshot because I just don't need the power of DaVinci. Openshot doesn't support significant GPU processing.

So, as you point out, the feel of the keyboard and just liking the machine in general, is a big factor in the choice.
 
This is an interesting thread as to how it evolves from ASUS Proart to MacBook Air as the conclusion. The current MacBooks are quite good, so there are no bad choices.

I have been using Apple desktops and laptops over the last 30+ years, with an occasional Windows machine thrown in because of the variety of styles. My latest Mac is a M3 MacBook Air (2024) with the almost base specs (16GB RAM, 256GB SSD). I am not a power user and it processes still photos in a perfectly acceptable manner.

But I am trying an ASUS Zenbook A14 (14") model with 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD that was on sale at Best Buy. I quite like it, even with the smaller display. It is an OLED display that is 1920x1200 and is quite good. The key travel is 1.3mm and feels better to me than the MBA. I prefer the Ceraluminum finish to the MBA's aluminum. When I use an external keyboard with the MBA, I appreciate that it has a delete key – as does the ASUS laptop – as well as a backspace key.I also prefer Windows Hello facial recognition to the fingerprint access on the MBA.

The only thing I am really missing is DxO Photolab -- it is basically unusable with the Snapdragon X Plus processor, and it doesn't seem as though DxO will make a native version. The upshot is that I will use Affinity Photo, Luminar Neo, Faststone RAW viewer and be content, since I am not a professional and not inclined to do too much editing (darkroom work) if I can avoid it.
Interesting information. I was looking at the x elite systems too. I was looking at the 64gb surface for me and 16 for the wife. I am at the point of not knowing what to do. I know, after doing some more research that the Macs chew through workflows that I have. I have seen the x elite are not as good. The ProArt, and Zenbook are great too. Damn.

Come to think of it, when I was sampling the M3 air at best buy next door to work I didn't like the keyboard. I spent an hour one evening just farting aound with the both the 13 and 15 inch air. they are in the mall next to our store. I would be using the keyboard alot as I write for various sites, our own blog, and writing scripts for pod casts and things like that. So keyboard feel is very important to me. Thanks for bringing up that point that I totally forgot about.

The ryzen 370s in both systems I am looking at are plenty fast for cpu based work, the pro art has a nice powerful GPU. I noticed that the 64gb models are out of stock besides an open box or refurb units. I am guessing a new model of the proart is on the way soon.

Now I am back to favoring the Asus systems since the keyboard sounds like it has a little more travel and feel for my needs. Round and round we go. I have to stop looking at sites and videos and just bit the bullet and buy the asus sytems and be done with it. ha ha.

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I have been humbled by...Windows. The BSOD hit in a most significant way -- the long and short of it is a complete factory reinstall was necessary, helped by being able to access ASUS utilities.

I have put away the machine for now while I consider its future (just got it 8 days ago and so it can be returned). It may that despite the positives for the ASUS, I may just use the M3 MBA, despite its slightly poorer keyboard, slightly shorter battery life, fingerprint security rather than facial recognition, and smaller internal SSD. I keep a small 2TB SSD connected for most work anyway. The benefits of a stable system cannot be overvalued, even if things can be remedied in any system (most of the time).

If you are still deciding, I would go type on the M4 MBA and try to get a better feeling for it, it is pretty decent even if just not as good as some others. I haven't tried the MacBook Pro, they may be a bit different. I seem to be able to make about the same number of mistypes no matter…
 
Cool. All the software we will be using is available on Apples systems. The Asus systems are the only systems we would look at now. My dell is 5 years old (whenever the mac M1was released). But it's having mobo and software issues. Every time I boot up now I have to restart about 3 or 4 times as I get the dell logo to pop up then screen goes black. restart the dell logo shows, the spinning circle for the second, then it goes into dell recovery, then it restarted and goes into "automatic repair" restart again and it finally boots to windows. It's seems to be super sluggish lately too.

I am done with windows really. Nadella really effed it up royally during his time as some sort of leader for MS. Not a good one, that's for sure.
Your 5-year-old Dell computer is having hardware issues and now your done with Windows? How does that have anything to do with the ASUS or any other PC? You don't think that Mac's ever have hardware problems?

Any new computer is going to be better than a 5-year-old system that is probably full of dust bunnies, cat hair, and a fading battery.

Enjoy your new purchase.
 
Cool. All the software we will be using is available on Apples systems. The Asus systems are the only systems we would look at now. My dell is 5 years old (whenever the mac M1was released). But it's having mobo and software issues. Every time I boot up now I have to restart about 3 or 4 times as I get the dell logo to pop up then screen goes black. restart the dell logo shows, the spinning circle for the second, then it goes into dell recovery, then it restarted and goes into "automatic repair" restart again and it finally boots to windows. It's seems to be super sluggish lately too.

I am done with windows really. Nadella really effed it up royally during his time as some sort of leader for MS. Not a good one, that's for sure.
Your 5-year-old Dell computer is having hardware issues and now your done with Windows? How does that have anything to do with the ASUS or any other PC? You don't think that Mac's ever have hardware problems?

Any new computer is going to be better than a 5-year-old system that is probably full of dust bunnies, cat hair, and a fading battery.

Enjoy your new purchase.
There are no dust bunnies etc inside my laptop. I clean it, repaste it, and ensure everything is top notch inside it every few months. same with my workstation. If I didn't do that it would be clogged. I have a husky. look up husky shedding. The battery in my system has been replaced as well. I do all of that when I see performance degrading a little bit.

I also went into bios to check everything and noticed a bios update on both my system and my wife's (my old notebook) switched the performance settings back to efficiency mode. I guess people want longer battery life than 8-10 hours. I switched them both back to high performance and the difference in the speed of the system was very much noticeable. I ran affinity photo benchmark on it to see if it actually made a difference or it was just my mind making it think it was, and I gained a 21% improvement in the benchmark. So it actually did make a big difference.

My laptop works fine. I have found out there is no hardware failing, it's a boot "glitch" with dell laptops in bios. I know how to get it booting quickly now. I am talking about other things when I say I am thinking I am done with windows. Software and Corporate decisions being made.

EDIT: Upon doing more research, My current pc is on par with the macbook pro M1 in all real world benchmarks. Meaning doing the work I do, it's within the same power/speed as the M1 macbook pro. Not a slouch by any means. Many people are still using their M1 and stating they are quite fast. 5 year old pcs are not like 5 year old pcs 10 years ago. It's marginal differences in speed YOY now.

A 15 min 4k render on my system takes 12:01 mins to complete. on the M1 macbook pro it takes 7:45. This was using ben Kaisers test results. I think that is reasonable on both machines. a 30 min 1080 project on Premier exported in 10:08 on my system and 9:18 on the MBP. Again, that is completely reasonable.

Now compare that to the P16 or M4 pro its slow. But not having the systems next to each other and not chewing through multiple projects in one day, I think that's not to shabby considering.

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