Quick help request - DXO to NIK file types

Hi all - I feel I should be able to solve this, but I am still pretty new with DXO.

When I send a file to NIK from LR, it returns a jpeg.

When I hit the Nik button in DXO, it creates a TIF. I have looked in the settings of both bits of software and think I must be missing something - how can I get Nik to make a jpeg? Or is this a product of creation in a folder rather than round tripping as it does in adobe. I appreciate I could export the tif to a jpeg, but I am batch editing and don't want the then unneeded tifs left in the folder (hopefully that makes sense)

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Gary

grsnovi said:

To open dialog to allow other save options...

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Thanks Gary - I had missed that, I was looking in settings, so it is useful - but I still can't get it to do what I want. Here's my process -



I export 3 Jpegs from my edited raws in Capture One to a folder.



When I select all 3 and hit the NIK button in PL8 it creates 3 TIF files in the same folder and opens all 3 in nik.



I apply my nik filter, then have two options - apply to all, or hit the button you have pointed out to export as jpeg.



If I export as jpeg, it only exports the one image I have on the screen. If I hit apply all, it saves the updates to the tif on all 3 images, but doesn't produce jpegs, even if the last thing I did was export as with jpeg selected



Is this just one of those workflow things I have to adjust to? PL8 just requires me to then create jpegs as a separate process once nik is closed down again? It makes the process more long winded and leaves me with unneeded files, so seems more fiddly - but may be my inexperience with the system

So to get the above, I opened a raw file in PL8 and exported from within PL8 to NIK.

I did notice that by default PL8 wants to export to TIFF from NIK.

Matt2134 said:

I export 3 Jpegs from my edited raws in Capture One to a folder.

When I select all 3 and hit the NIK button in PL8 it creates 3 TIF files in the same folder and opens all 3 in nik.

I apply my nik filter, then have two options - apply to all, or hit the button you have pointed out to export as jpeg.

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Why are you exporting jpgs (low quality), then doing further editing on them?

If you want best quality images it is usual to do all work on full-size 16-bit tif's, then crop and or resize the final product before sharpening and only then saving files in jpg format for use on the web etc..
Richard

Richard James said:

Why are you exporting jpgs?

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Why not open your raws using PL8 and export directly from there to NIK?

grsnovi said:

So to get the above, I opened a raw file in PL8 and exported from within PL8 to NIK.

I did notice that by default PL8 wants to export to TIFF from NIK.

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yes same - but it will only seem to do that on a single image in the main nik window, even if I open a batch of files to nik from PL8 - in contrast, if you hit apply instead of the export jpeg button it will apply your nik filter on the whole batch, but only then bake it to the tif, not export jpegs.

grsnovi said:

Richard James said:

Why are you exporting jpgs?

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Why not open your raws using PL8 and export directly from there to NIK?

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Thanks both - I'll explain, there is a reason, I just didn't want to bore you all with unnecessary detail! So if I was working on my own single image, that's what I would do, as you suggest.

In this instance I am shooting for clients (aerialists and pole dancers) - for that I have to use Capture One because it is all handled through their brilliant Live service for client selection and edit annotation.

The client base are not printing these things big - they are for instagram feeds and online personas. What has become apparent is that there is perceived value to providing multiple versions with different colour grading etc, and for instagram use, filters are fine. I would previously just do this with Capture One styles or Nik from there and handle it all in that environment - but as I am discovering more and more of late, DXO produces really nice images and is really simple to use for frames and filters - things we wouldn't use for single fine art images, but for an instagram client base are perfect for providing client choice.

So what I am trying to do is use C1 for the client side selection, and for the 'technical' editing round tripping to photoshop - there I do all the backdrop extending, skin work, blemish removal, enhancements etc. Then I want to take their images - maybe ten or so - send them to PL8, and quickly generate a few different variants for upload to the final client gallery.

With PL8 film pack presets, it is much quicker than it looks written out - when I send to NIK I end up with a folder full of unneeded tifs and the extra step of exporting those post-nik tifs back to the original folder and stripping out the detritus files. Not the end of the world, but I work in volume, and if I can strip out some of those steps, it will save me time in the long run!

You have certainly explored this more than I have.

Picky, picky, picky. ;-)

grsnovi said:

You have certainly explored this more than I have.

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Thanks for the suggestions, I appreciate it...I'll keep digging!

I think I sorted it - kinda - just updating in case someone has the same issue and stumbles on this thread later.

When you click the NIK button in PL8 it brings up a box with the various modules. At the end is a box for global settings - click that and you can export as jpeg not Tif.

It then creates jpegs that you can apply your preset to, hit 'Apply All' in your nik module and you are done. No extraneous files. You are just working on jpegs though, so may not be suitable for all jobs.

Very strangely, when I was trying to work this out today, for a while Nik would not batch edit. It would open my batch of files from C1 and/or PL8, but only had an Apply button, not Apply all - as a result it would only apply he preset to the first shot in the batch, and the software would close as though your round trip was done.

There was no reason I could see why - restarting the host program or nik didn't change it - when I did a complete restart of my mac, the apply all button reappeared

Matt2134 said:

grsnovi said:

Richard James said:

Why are you exporting jpgs?

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Why not open your raws using PL8 and export directly from there to NIK?

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Thanks both - I'll explain, there is a reason, I just didn't want to bore you all with unnecessary detail! So if I was working on my own single image, that's what I would do, as you suggest.

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Matt2134 said:

The client base are not printing these things big - they are for instagram feeds and online personas.

... when I send to NIK I end up with a folder full of unneeded tifs and the extra step of exporting those post-nik tifs back to the original folder and stripping out the detritus files.

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OK, I see....

If the clients are happy... for that use they may not notice the potentially better quality if done via Tif's...

As for deleting tifs, if you want to delete all - filter on *.tif, select all, delete... QED.

Richard