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I have the RX100 VI and still use it quite a bit when I'm not in the mood to carry my pro gear.

After all this time, and with compact cameras gaining in popularity again, why has Sony abandoned this line? I'd love an upgraded version and I know many folks feel the same way.

C'mon, Sony! Wake up! I know there was likely some RX100 development beyond the 7!

Robert
 
I have the RX100 VI and still use it quite a bit when I'm not in the mood to carry my pro gear.

After all this time, and with compact cameras gaining in popularity again, why has Sony abandoned this line? I'd love an upgraded version and I know many folks feel the same way.

C'mon, Sony! Wake up! I know there was likely some RX100 development beyond the 7!

Robert
Not much hope. Seems to be zero intelligent activity in Sony Cyber-shot area since middle of 2019 when the M7 was released.

Since then the RX100M7A has surfaced to suit the Euro rules, but they did it in a near zero cost way. No improvements and maybe only a backward step of possibly (unproven so far) of removing ability to charge the battery in-camera.

As for an M8, what is the M7 missing that needs an update (apart from the often stated USB-C socket)? Would anyone be able to actually afford it?

As for me, still using M6 and cannot see any valid reason why I would ever need to update to M7 let alone M8. If I need better quality I reach for my ten year old M4/3 gear.
 
I have the RX100 VI and still use it quite a bit when I'm not in the mood to carry my pro gear.

After all this time, and with compact cameras gaining in popularity again, why has Sony abandoned this line? I'd love an upgraded version and I know many folks feel the same way.

C'mon, Sony! Wake up! I know there was likely some RX100 development beyond the 7!

Robert
Not much hope. Seems to be zero intelligent activity in Sony Cyber-shot area since middle of 2019 when the M7 was released.

Since then the RX100M7A has surfaced to suit the Euro rules, but they did it in a near zero cost way. No improvements and maybe only a backward step of possibly (unproven so far) of removing ability to charge the battery in-camera.

As for an M8, what is the M7 missing that needs an update (apart from the often stated USB-C socket)? Would anyone be able to actually afford it?

As for me, still using M6 and cannot see any valid reason why I would ever need to update to M7 let alone M8. If I need better quality I reach for my ten year old M4/3 gear.
There's always room for improvement. The sensor could certainly get a small bump in low light, high ISO ability and a lens with less distortion could also be engineered. A higher resolution EVF and rear LCD would be welcome as well.

Sony should take note that small cameras are becoming popular again, so maybe dusting off the RX100 line would be a good idea while also presenting it as an upscale mini-blogger unit.

Robert
 
I have the RX100 VI and still use it quite a bit when I'm not in the mood to carry my pro gear.

After all this time, and with compact cameras gaining in popularity again, why has Sony abandoned this line? I'd love an upgraded version and I know many folks feel the same way.

C'mon, Sony! Wake up! I know there was likely some RX100 development beyond the 7!

Robert
Not much hope. Seems to be zero intelligent activity in Sony Cyber-shot area since middle of 2019 when the M7 was released.

Since then the RX100M7A has surfaced to suit the Euro rules, but they did it in a near zero cost way. No improvements and maybe only a backward step of possibly (unproven so far) of removing ability to charge the battery in-camera.

As for an M8, what is the M7 missing that needs an update (apart from the often stated USB-C socket)? Would anyone be able to actually afford it?

As for me, still using M6 and cannot see any valid reason why I would ever need to update to M7 let alone M8. If I need better quality I reach for my ten year old M4/3 gear.
There's always room for improvement.
Indeed, but the likely costs and return on investment could be a disaster.
The sensor could certainly get a small bump in low light, high ISO ability
Make it a 12MP sensor to do that, again, marketing suicide. Meanwhile raw files plus suitable software can give about 2 stops advantage in regard to noise.
and a lens with less distortion could also be engineered.
Much bigger and way more expensive lens assembly, again a bad move.
A higher resolution EVF and rear LCD would be welcome as well.
Easy to do, but with that tiny BX1 battery?
Sony should take note that small cameras are becoming popular again, so maybe dusting off the RX100 line would be a good idea while also presenting it as an upscale mini-blogger unit.
An Internet trend doesn't make it a viable manufacturing effort, how long before the Internet loses interest in small cameras and goes back to more versatile smartphones?

They haven't even seen fit to make a new main board to accommodate the much howled for USB-C socket, so there's only a very tiny chance that anything interesting ever happens again at Sony in regard to RX100 line. I'd love to be wrong but cannot see that it would happen.
 
I have the RX100 VI and still use it quite a bit when I'm not in the mood to carry my pro gear.

After all this time, and with compact cameras gaining in popularity again, why has Sony abandoned this line? I'd love an upgraded version and I know many folks feel the same way.

C'mon, Sony! Wake up! I know there was likely some RX100 development beyond the 7!

Robert
Not much hope. Seems to be zero intelligent activity in Sony Cyber-shot area since middle of 2019 when the M7 was released.

Since then the RX100M7A has surfaced to suit the Euro rules, but they did it in a near zero cost way. No improvements and maybe only a backward step of possibly (unproven so far) of removing ability to charge the battery in-camera.

As for an M8, what is the M7 missing that needs an update (apart from the often stated USB-C socket)? Would anyone be able to actually afford it?

As for me, still using M6 and cannot see any valid reason why I would ever need to update to M7 let alone M8. If I need better quality I reach for my ten year old M4/3 gear.
There's always room for improvement.
Indeed, but the likely costs and return on investment could be a disaster.
A disaster? Doubtful. Keep in mind that Sony makes products with little to no big returns to bring people into the product line. The RX100 series actually led me to eventually buying a Sony Cinema camera and several lenses, even though I mainly shoot Nikon.
The sensor could certainly get a small bump in low light, high ISO ability
Make it a 12MP sensor to do that, again, marketing suicide. Meanwhile raw files plus suitable software can give about 2 stops advantage in regard to noise.
After this amount of time they could squeeze more out of a 1" sensor without reducing MP. We've seen small, but noticeable advancements in sensors since the last of the RX100's was released.
and a lens with less distortion could also be engineered.
Much bigger and way more expensive lens assembly, again a bad move.
Again, you seem to be ignoring that a better lens, at least marginally, can be designed. We see this year after year.
A higher resolution EVF and rear LCD would be welcome as well.
Easy to do, but with that tiny BX1 battery?
Better battery tech is now available and less power hungry panels also exist. It's been 6 years and Sony has plenty of new tech to throw at this camera!
Sony should take note that small cameras are becoming popular again, so maybe dusting off the RX100 line would be a good idea while also presenting it as an upscale mini-blogger unit.
An Internet trend doesn't make it a viable manufacturing effort, how long before the Internet loses interest in small cameras and goes back to more versatile smartphones?

They haven't even seen fit to make a new main board to accommodate the much howled for USB-C socket, so there's only a very tiny chance that anything interesting ever happens again at Sony in regard to RX100 line. I'd love to be wrong but cannot see that it would happen.
You're probably right, but someone else will do it. Ricoh GR line continues and they can't make enough Fuji X100's while Canon's compact is also selling well. I have top tier smartphones and their not as versatile as my RX100 VI!

They could just do a few of the items I mentioned and people would be happy to buy a RX100 VIII.

Robert

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Everybody complaining (no judgement - I want one too) about no VIII replacing the VII ignore the fact that the V/Va is the one that needs refreshing first, and it could be the 24-70mm f1.8-2.8 that become the VIII.* The VII has a touchscreen, but we all know how limited it is, but the V and Va don't have one at all, nor does it move as much. The V/Va also doesn't have the VII's viewfider, still requiring you to manually extend it when released.

If, and we all know how dodgy that "if" is, we get new RX100s, I doubt there'd be much in the way of internal improvements. Maybe there could be improvements in subject detection/tracking, but I doubt it'd get anything as fancy as the Bionz XR - physical limitations aside (will it fit?), it'd zap the small battery quicker. I'd very highly doubt there'd any change at all to the optics of either the 24-70mm or 24-200mm models.

The improvements I'd hope/expect to see would be a more functional touchscreen like that of the ZV-1 (which on the VI/VII seem more of a software upgrade than hardware), a USB-C port replacing the micro USB, and the auto-extending viewfinder on the 24-70mm model.

The problem I see with expecting anything new, at least in the nearish future, is that there's been zero software improvement with the VII. Assuming the touchscreen isn't single point touch, I don't see why it couldn't be revamped with more functionality than just using to choose your focus point. Menu and gallery navigation, controls, etc. You know, like every other camera has these days (including the ZV-1), and many had before the VII was released. This would only require a firmware update, but it's 6 years later and there hasn't been one.

*Designation is arbitrary. They could make a replacement for each, one being a VIII, the other being an IX; it doesn't matter which gets named what. Or they could get a different name entirely.
 
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As for an M8, what is the M7 missing that needs an update (apart from the often stated USB-C socket)? Would anyone be able to actually afford it?

As for me, still using M6 and cannot see any valid reason why I would ever need to update to M7 let alone M8. If I need better quality I reach for my ten year old M4/3 gear.
I could also imagine an upgrade in terms of GUI, AF and internal processing.

I am a big fan of the new Sony menue because it is far better to use, with loads of options to adjust to individual needs. The AI-AF of my A7CII is pretty amazing, it lets me focus more on the subject and not any settings. AF-C is very reliable.

All this in a pocketable RX100VIII would be a dream come true.
 
As for an M8, what is the M7 missing that needs an update (apart from the often stated USB-C socket)? Would anyone be able to actually afford it?

As for me, still using M6 and cannot see any valid reason why I would ever need to update to M7 let alone M8. If I need better quality I reach for my ten year old M4/3 gear.
I could also imagine an upgrade in terms of GUI, AF and internal processing.

I am a big fan of the new Sony menue because it is far better to use, with loads of options to adjust to individual needs. The AI-AF of my A7CII is pretty amazing, it lets me focus more on the subject and not any settings. AF-C is very reliable.

All this in a pocketable RX100VIII would be a dream come true.
It is indeed a dream, as it relies on chips and battery power that wouldn’t fit into the RX100 form factor.
 
Everybody complaining (no judgement - I want one too) about no VIII replacing the VII ignore the fact that the V/Va is the one that needs refreshing first, and it could be the 24-70mm f1.8-2.8 that become the VIII.* The VII has a touchscreen, but we all know how limited it is, but the V and Va don't have one at all, nor does it move as much. The V/Va also doesn't have the VII's viewfider, still requiring you to manually extend it when released.

If, and we all know how dodgy that "if" is, we get new RX100s, I doubt there'd be much in the way of internal improvements. Maybe there could be improvements in subject detection/tracking, but I doubt it'd get anything as fancy as the Bionz XR - physical limitations aside (will it fit?), it'd zap the small battery quicker. I'd very highly doubt there'd any change at all to the optics of either the 24-70mm or 24-200mm models.

The improvements I'd hope/expect to see would be a more functional touchscreen like that of the ZV-1 (which on the VI/VII seem more of a software upgrade than hardware), a USB-C port replacing the micro USB, and the auto-extending viewfinder on the 24-70mm model.

The problem I see with expecting anything new, at least in the nearish future, is that there's been zero software improvement with the VII. Assuming the touchscreen isn't single point touch, I don't see why it couldn't be revamped with more functionality than just using to choose your focus point. Menu and gallery navigation, controls, etc. You know, like every other camera has these days (including the ZV-1), and many had before the VII was released. This would only require a firmware update, but it's 6 years later and there hasn't been one.

*Designation is arbitrary. They could make a replacement for each, one being a VIII, the other being an IX; it doesn't matter which gets named what. Or they could get a different name entirely.
Sony, like Canon, sees the vlogger market as the only interesting niche in the hugely reduced compact camera market. That means cameras with fully articulated touch screens but no EVF; wider angle, fast zoom lenses with ND filters, not telephoto zooms; fewer, simpler controls; active stabilisation for video, but no stabilisation for stills; improved microphones, but no built-in flash. Such cameras can still take still images, but they’re much more optimised for wide angle video. Most RX100M6/7 users don’t see such cameras as ‘upgrades’.
 
I'm right there as far as wanting to see Sony (and Canon, Nikon, Oly, Fuji) resurrect dedicated stills centric performance compacts. And I'd be glad to line up to buy a suitable item to go along with my RX100. I think it's clear that the best days of enthusiast compacts are gone. Sure, they'll find existing inventory somewhere or churn out a few more existing models if mfg's are convinced they'll move product. But there's nothing to suggest new investment in product development, marketing, and production for a VIII. There simply isn't any sure return on the investment required to bring a new/revised compact to market (or more to the point, monies invested in other product lines have a much better likelihood of success.) The current tariff situation doesn't help matters obviously.

I used to use an S90 and I check out the Canon Powershot forum periodically. There's a thread taking Canon to task for not developing a new GX5 (or whatever) - how foolish of them not to produce something that is clearly in demand and will clearly sell like hotcakes (translated - something that will appeal to me and that I might buy once it goes on sale). I scrolled through some of the user profiles and many of them joined DPR 20 plus years ago. Likely, they are (like me) well into retirement age - hardly the demographic that will give Canon a lot of confidence to spend millions to bring a GX5iii (or whatever) to market. Spend some time viewing Marques Brownlee or similar on YouTube reviewing the Samsung Ultra or latest iPhone. That's your compact camera. To be clear, in my mind, I'll take my RX100 over the latest and greatest phone camera any day. But my desire and preferences will not change market reality one bit.

None of the above should be seen as a combative reply to your post Robert. Like you, I'd love to have options available. Unfortunately, I don't see it happening in the way I'd like - would be happy to be proven wrong.

Nick
 
There's always room for improvement. The sensor could certainly get a small bump in low light, high ISO ability
How so? To get better ISO, they've watered down color discrimination of Bayer filters to no end. Either colors in particular in fine-grained patterns get renditioned quite badly and/or results get horrifically dependent on exact white balance and/or the reduction in luminance noise comes at a big impact in chroma noise.
and a lens with less distortion could also be engineered.
How so? New element material/glasses/processes?

These kind of "I don't care how, just make it so" demands may reflect an "customer is king" philosophy, but the money for the necessary large innovations has to come from somewhere.
A higher resolution EVF and rear LCD would be welcome as well.
Slightly better chance of filling those demands from market resources.
Sony should take note that small cameras are becoming popular again, so maybe dusting off the RX100 line would be a good idea while also presenting it as an upscale mini-blogger unit.
Those markets are basically at full scale already.
 
I have the RX100 VI and still use it quite a bit when I'm not in the mood to carry my pro gear.

After all this time, and with compact cameras gaining in popularity again, why has Sony abandoned this line? I'd love an upgraded version and I know many folks feel the same way.

C'mon, Sony! Wake up! I know there was likely some RX100 development beyond the 7!

Robert
The RX100VII is significantly advanced over the 100VI and still the best in class. Unless someone else comes out with a subcompact better than the RX100VII Sony has no incentive to come out with something new.
 
I have the RX100 VI and still use it quite a bit when I'm not in the mood to carry my pro gear.

After all this time, and with compact cameras gaining in popularity again, why has Sony abandoned this line? I'd love an upgraded version and I know many folks feel the same way.

C'mon, Sony! Wake up! I know there was likely some RX100 development beyond the 7!

Robert
The RX100VII is significantly advanced over the 100VI and still the best in class. Unless someone else comes out with a subcompact better than the RX100VII Sony has no incentive to come out with something new.
Even if someone does, I doubt that Sony will notice or care. It's a market that Sony abandoned six years ago, when that segment was much larger than now, and it has no interest in what share it retains of a tiny, disappearing market. Like others, it decided that the vlogger niche was the only remaining niche of a niche worth bothering with, and even there, it's made pretty minimal investment.

What's of far more concern to Sony is growing its small share of the vastly bigger smartphone market. To a large extent, people choose premium smartphones based on their cameras, which should give Sony an advantage over other phone makers, but it's failed to benefit from it. They buy lots of phones whose camera sensors are made by Sony, but not so many where the whole phone is made by Sony.
 
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I have the RX100 VI and still use it quite a bit when I'm not in the mood to carry my pro gear.

After all this time, and with compact cameras gaining in popularity again, why has Sony abandoned this line? I'd love an upgraded version and I know many folks feel the same way.

C'mon, Sony! Wake up! I know there was likely some RX100 development beyond the 7!

Robert
Not much hope. Seems to be zero intelligent activity in Sony Cyber-shot area since middle of 2019 when the M7 was released.

Since then the RX100M7A has surfaced to suit the Euro rules, but they did it in a near zero cost way. No improvements and maybe only a backward step of possibly (unproven so far) of removing ability to charge the battery in-camera.

As for an M8, what is the M7 missing that needs an update (apart from the often stated USB-C socket)? Would anyone be able to actually afford it?

As for me, still using M6 and cannot see any valid reason why I would ever need to update to M7 let alone M8. If I need better quality I reach for my ten year old M4/3 gear.
The M7 has better AF tracking, better video capabilities with no upper limits on recording time, real-time live view at 20 frames per second and an improved menu system. Here is a link to some of the improvements in the RX100vii over the vi. When I bought my RX100vii it was only $100 more than the 100vi so for me the vii was the obvious choice. If someone already owns an RX100vi the improvements may not be enough for an upgrade.

Sony RX100 VI vs RX100 VII – The 10 Main Differences - Mirrorless Comparison
 
The sensor could certainly get a small bump in low light, high ISO ability
Make it a 12MP sensor to do that, again, marketing suicide. Meanwhile raw files plus suitable software can give about 2 stops advantage in regard to noise.
It's false to assume that a lower resolution sensor produces a noise improvement significant enough to matter. That myth has been busted numerous times. It stems from looking at photos at full resolution where the larger image produced by higher resolution sensors simply reveals noise that is less or not visible in the smaller image size. When viewed at the same size there is very little difference in noise.

DPReview TV: Why lower resolution sensors are not better in low light: Digital Photography Review

What I have found when shooting RAW with modern AI noise reduction very good results can be had with a 1" sensor up to ISO6400 which, for me at least, covers 90%+ of my photography.

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Tom
 
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I have the RX100 VI and still use it quite a bit when I'm not in the mood to carry my pro gear.

After all this time, and with compact cameras gaining in popularity again, why has Sony abandoned this line? I'd love an upgraded version and I know many folks feel the same way.

C'mon, Sony! Wake up! I know there was likely some RX100 development beyond the 7!

Robert
Not much hope. Seems to be zero intelligent activity in Sony Cyber-shot area since middle of 2019 when the M7 was released.

Since then the RX100M7A has surfaced to suit the Euro rules, but they did it in a near zero cost way. No improvements and maybe only a backward step of possibly (unproven so far) of removing ability to charge the battery in-camera.

As for an M8, what is the M7 missing that needs an update (apart from the often stated USB-C socket)? Would anyone be able to actually afford it?

As for me, still using M6 and cannot see any valid reason why I would ever need to update to M7 let alone M8. If I need better quality I reach for my ten year old M4/3 gear.
There's always room for improvement.
Indeed, but the likely costs and return on investment could be a disaster.
A disaster? Doubtful. Keep in mind that Sony makes products with little to no big returns to bring people into the product line. The RX100 series actually led me to eventually buying a Sony Cinema camera and several lenses, even though I mainly shoot Nikon.
The sensor could certainly get a small bump in low light, high ISO ability
Make it a 12MP sensor to do that, again, marketing suicide. Meanwhile raw files plus suitable software can give about 2 stops advantage in regard to noise.
After this amount of time they could squeeze more out of a 1" sensor without reducing MP. We've seen small, but noticeable advancements in sensors since the last of the RX100's was released.
and a lens with less distortion could also be engineered.
Much bigger and way more expensive lens assembly, again a bad move.
Again, you seem to be ignoring that a better lens, at least marginally, can be designed. We see this year after year.
A higher resolution EVF and rear LCD would be welcome as well.
Easy to do, but with that tiny BX1 battery?
Better battery tech is now available and less power hungry panels also exist. It's been 6 years and Sony has plenty of new tech to throw at this camera!
Sony should take note that small cameras are becoming popular again, so maybe dusting off the RX100 line would be a good idea while also presenting it as an upscale mini-blogger unit.
An Internet trend doesn't make it a viable manufacturing effort, how long before the Internet loses interest in small cameras and goes back to more versatile smartphones?

They haven't even seen fit to make a new main board to accommodate the much howled for USB-C socket, so there's only a very tiny chance that anything interesting ever happens again at Sony in regard to RX100 line. I'd love to be wrong but cannot see that it would happen.
You're probably right, but someone else will do it. Ricoh GR line continues and they can't make enough Fuji X100's while Canon's compact is also selling well. I have top tier smartphones and their not as versatile as my RX100 VI!

They could just do a few of the items I mentioned and people would be happy to buy a RX100 VIII.

Robert
The improvements you suggest would be so marginal that they would be of no practical value, certainly not enough to spur sales.
 
I have the RX100 VI and still use it quite a bit when I'm not in the mood to carry my pro gear.

After all this time, and with compact cameras gaining in popularity again, why has Sony abandoned this line? I'd love an upgraded version and I know many folks feel the same way.

C'mon, Sony! Wake up! I know there was likely some RX100 development beyond the 7!

Robert
Not much hope. Seems to be zero intelligent activity in Sony Cyber-shot area since middle of 2019 when the M7 was released.

Since then the RX100M7A has surfaced to suit the Euro rules, but they did it in a near zero cost way. No improvements and maybe only a backward step of possibly (unproven so far) of removing ability to charge the battery in-camera.

As for an M8, what is the M7 missing that needs an update (apart from the often stated USB-C socket)? Would anyone be able to actually afford it?

As for me, still using M6 and cannot see any valid reason why I would ever need to update to M7 let alone M8. If I need better quality I reach for my ten year old M4/3 gear.
There's always room for improvement.
Indeed, but the likely costs and return on investment could be a disaster.
A disaster? Doubtful. Keep in mind that Sony makes products with little to no big returns to bring people into the product line. The RX100 series actually led me to eventually buying a Sony Cinema camera and several lenses, even though I mainly shoot Nikon.
The sensor could certainly get a small bump in low light, high ISO ability
Make it a 12MP sensor to do that, again, marketing suicide. Meanwhile raw files plus suitable software can give about 2 stops advantage in regard to noise.
After this amount of time they could squeeze more out of a 1" sensor without reducing MP. We've seen small, but noticeable advancements in sensors since the last of the RX100's was released.
and a lens with less distortion could also be engineered.
Much bigger and way more expensive lens assembly, again a bad move.
Again, you seem to be ignoring that a better lens, at least marginally, can be designed. We see this year after year.
A higher resolution EVF and rear LCD would be welcome as well.
Easy to do, but with that tiny BX1 battery?
Better battery tech is now available and less power hungry panels also exist. It's been 6 years and Sony has plenty of new tech to throw at this camera!
Sony should take note that small cameras are becoming popular again, so maybe dusting off the RX100 line would be a good idea while also presenting it as an upscale mini-blogger unit.
An Internet trend doesn't make it a viable manufacturing effort, how long before the Internet loses interest in small cameras and goes back to more versatile smartphones?

They haven't even seen fit to make a new main board to accommodate the much howled for USB-C socket, so there's only a very tiny chance that anything interesting ever happens again at Sony in regard to RX100 line. I'd love to be wrong but cannot see that it would happen.
You're probably right, but someone else will do it. Ricoh GR line continues and they can't make enough Fuji X100's while Canon's compact is also selling well. I have top tier smartphones and their not as versatile as my RX100 VI!

They could just do a few of the items I mentioned and people would be happy to buy a RX100 VIII.

Robert
The improvements you suggest would be so marginal that they would be of no practical value, certainly not enough to spur sales.
LOL! Lots of people won't buy a camera this old, even if they're making "new ones."

A RX100 with better AF alone would sell well. Throw in some other upgrades and even better.

This is a 6 year old camera and it's easy to make a better version with recent advancements in AF, batteries, EVF, and more. This is 2025, folks and the RX100 series should not be a lost cause.

Small compacts are selling again....ask the folks at B&H.

Robert
 
I have the RX100 VI and still use it quite a bit when I'm not in the mood to carry my pro gear.

After all this time, and with compact cameras gaining in popularity again, why has Sony abandoned this line? I'd love an upgraded version and I know many folks feel the same way.

C'mon, Sony! Wake up! I know there was likely some RX100 development beyond the 7!

Robert
Not much hope. Seems to be zero intelligent activity in Sony Cyber-shot area since middle of 2019 when the M7 was released.

Since then the RX100M7A has surfaced to suit the Euro rules, but they did it in a near zero cost way. No improvements and maybe only a backward step of possibly (unproven so far) of removing ability to charge the battery in-camera.

As for an M8, what is the M7 missing that needs an update (apart from the often stated USB-C socket)? Would anyone be able to actually afford it?

As for me, still using M6 and cannot see any valid reason why I would ever need to update to M7 let alone M8. If I need better quality I reach for my ten year old M4/3 gear.
There's always room for improvement.
Indeed, but the likely costs and return on investment could be a disaster.
A disaster? Doubtful. Keep in mind that Sony makes products with little to no big returns to bring people into the product line. The RX100 series actually led me to eventually buying a Sony Cinema camera and several lenses, even though I mainly shoot Nikon.
The sensor could certainly get a small bump in low light, high ISO ability
Make it a 12MP sensor to do that, again, marketing suicide. Meanwhile raw files plus suitable software can give about 2 stops advantage in regard to noise.
After this amount of time they could squeeze more out of a 1" sensor without reducing MP. We've seen small, but noticeable advancements in sensors since the last of the RX100's was released.
and a lens with less distortion could also be engineered.
Much bigger and way more expensive lens assembly, again a bad move.
Again, you seem to be ignoring that a better lens, at least marginally, can be designed. We see this year after year.
A higher resolution EVF and rear LCD would be welcome as well.
Easy to do, but with that tiny BX1 battery?
Better battery tech is now available and less power hungry panels also exist. It's been 6 years and Sony has plenty of new tech to throw at this camera!
Sony should take note that small cameras are becoming popular again, so maybe dusting off the RX100 line would be a good idea while also presenting it as an upscale mini-blogger unit.
An Internet trend doesn't make it a viable manufacturing effort, how long before the Internet loses interest in small cameras and goes back to more versatile smartphones?

They haven't even seen fit to make a new main board to accommodate the much howled for USB-C socket, so there's only a very tiny chance that anything interesting ever happens again at Sony in regard to RX100 line. I'd love to be wrong but cannot see that it would happen.
You're probably right, but someone else will do it. Ricoh GR line continues and they can't make enough Fuji X100's while Canon's compact is also selling well. I have top tier smartphones and their not as versatile as my RX100 VI!

They could just do a few of the items I mentioned and people would be happy to buy a RX100 VIII.

Robert
The improvements you suggest would be so marginal that they would be of no practical value, certainly not enough to spur sales.
LOL! Lots of people won't buy a camera this old, even if they're making "new ones."

A RX100 with better AF alone would sell well. Throw in some other upgrades and even better.

This is a 6 year old camera and it's easy to make a better version with recent advancements in AF, batteries, EVF, and more. This is 2025, folks and the RX100 series should not be a lost cause.

Small compacts are selling again....ask the folks at B&H.

Robert
Not buy one? I just bought one a few months ago, before the price jump. Why? Because even with its age, it's still a great camera.
 
I have the RX100 VI and still use it quite a bit when I'm not in the mood to carry my pro gear.

After all this time, and with compact cameras gaining in popularity again, why has Sony abandoned this line? I'd love an upgraded version and I know many folks feel the same way.

C'mon, Sony! Wake up! I know there was likely some RX100 development beyond the 7!

Robert
Not much hope. Seems to be zero intelligent activity in Sony Cyber-shot area since middle of 2019 when the M7 was released.

Since then the RX100M7A has surfaced to suit the Euro rules, but they did it in a near zero cost way. No improvements and maybe only a backward step of possibly (unproven so far) of removing ability to charge the battery in-camera.

As for an M8, what is the M7 missing that needs an update (apart from the often stated USB-C socket)? Would anyone be able to actually afford it?

As for me, still using M6 and cannot see any valid reason why I would ever need to update to M7 let alone M8. If I need better quality I reach for my ten year old M4/3 gear.
There's always room for improvement.
Indeed, but the likely costs and return on investment could be a disaster.
A disaster? Doubtful. Keep in mind that Sony makes products with little to no big returns to bring people into the product line. The RX100 series actually led me to eventually buying a Sony Cinema camera and several lenses, even though I mainly shoot Nikon.
The sensor could certainly get a small bump in low light, high ISO ability
Make it a 12MP sensor to do that, again, marketing suicide. Meanwhile raw files plus suitable software can give about 2 stops advantage in regard to noise.
After this amount of time they could squeeze more out of a 1" sensor without reducing MP. We've seen small, but noticeable advancements in sensors since the last of the RX100's was released.
and a lens with less distortion could also be engineered.
Much bigger and way more expensive lens assembly, again a bad move.
Again, you seem to be ignoring that a better lens, at least marginally, can be designed. We see this year after year.
A higher resolution EVF and rear LCD would be welcome as well.
Easy to do, but with that tiny BX1 battery?
Better battery tech is now available and less power hungry panels also exist. It's been 6 years and Sony has plenty of new tech to throw at this camera!
Sony should take note that small cameras are becoming popular again, so maybe dusting off the RX100 line would be a good idea while also presenting it as an upscale mini-blogger unit.
An Internet trend doesn't make it a viable manufacturing effort, how long before the Internet loses interest in small cameras and goes back to more versatile smartphones?

They haven't even seen fit to make a new main board to accommodate the much howled for USB-C socket, so there's only a very tiny chance that anything interesting ever happens again at Sony in regard to RX100 line. I'd love to be wrong but cannot see that it would happen.
You're probably right, but someone else will do it. Ricoh GR line continues and they can't make enough Fuji X100's while Canon's compact is also selling well. I have top tier smartphones and their not as versatile as my RX100 VI!

They could just do a few of the items I mentioned and people would be happy to buy a RX100 VIII.

Robert
The improvements you suggest would be so marginal that they would be of no practical value, certainly not enough to spur sales.
LOL! Lots of people won't buy a camera this old, even if they're making "new ones."

A RX100 with better AF alone would sell well. Throw in some other upgrades and even better.

This is a 6 year old camera and it's easy to make a better version with recent advancements in AF, batteries, EVF, and more. This is 2025, folks and the RX100 series should not be a lost cause.

Small compacts are selling again....ask the folks at B&H.

Robert
 

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