X-E5 June announcement

I would like a very compact travel camera whose pictures I can potentially print and hang on the wall.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but at least the X-T5 which has the same sensor can be set for about 26mp if you want that resolution. I'm assuming the software would reduce the noise through averaging the adjacent pixels together, but never looked into that. You can also use post processing to do the same thing.

However upscaling will at best make the result softer.

JohnV2 said:

I would like a very compact travel camera whose pictures I can potentially print and hang on the wall.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but at least the X-T5 which has the same sensor can be set for about 26mp if you want that resolution. I'm assuming the software would reduce the noise through averaging the adjacent pixels together, but never looked into that. You can also use post processing to do the same thing.

However upscaling will at best make the result softer.

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No, It's just a crop down to 26/20mp, there is no pixel binning.

DirkPeh said:

The XE-4 was affordable and felt not cheap, but cheaper than the X100V in direct comparison. Now that the X-M5 exists and not much news about the X-Pro, and with the rumours about IBIS and the 40MP sensor including a significant price increase, wouldn’t it make sense, if the XE-5 would replace both the X-E4 and the Pro respectively appeal to the same customers? So about 1.700-1.800, better build quality, more dials, better EVF.

And the indispensable film simulation selection wheel.

But I was already way off with my expectations regarding the X-Half

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I don't think the X-E5 will replace the X-Pro. Because of its OVF, the X-Pro is something quite separate from all the rest. The X-M5 has no VF whatsoever, so it's also on its own.

I'm pretty sure the X-E5 will occupy the lower enthusiast market between X-M5 and X-T5 as the X-E series has been doing for the last few releases. X-T5 is about €1800, so counting for inflation and all that, €1200-1300 body only. Add €200 for the kit lens.

But the X-M5 could be the inspiration for where to put the film sim dial! Just not sure it'll work out there with the VF in the corner.

JohnV2 said:

I would like a very compact travel camera whose pictures I can potentially print and hang on the wall.

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One could easily do that with much lower resolutions.

My first 'real' camera was the D90 which had no issues with larger prints with its 12 mp.

BklynBill said:

Well, that just saved me some money! Having said that, it was logical it would have that being that its sister camera the X-T50 has it. Hopefully it will many many people happy.

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In other words, High possibility X-E5 has same price $1399 & film simulation dial as X-T50. Only different is RF style EVF & missing auto mode lever (locate beside dial).

michaeladawson said:

There are only two dials on the X-E4 (and the X-E3), a shutter speed dial and an EV comp dial. I don't see how you can replace either of those two dials and maintain an X-E line of camera.

OK, so add another dial? Where? You can't put it where it is on the X-M5.

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May be new mini film simulation dial (less mark) locate at left side of camera (similar to Leica M10 ISO dial).


Leica M10 ISO dial

forest dream said:

BklynBill said:

Well, that just saved me some money! Having said that, it was logical it would have that being that its sister camera the X-T50 has it. Hopefully it will many many people happy.

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In other words, High possibility X-E5 has same price $1399 & film simulation dial as X-T50. Only different is RF style EVF & missing auto mode lever (locate beside dial).

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It was always the most likely scenario that "all" we're going to get is an X-T50 with rearranged controls and EVF placement. Aside from control schemes, these lines have largely moved in lock-step going back to the X-E2(s) and initial X-T10.

Especially now that we have to expect a film simulation dial, it is even more so looking like X-T50 internals in an X-E body.

I don't expect the new model to really break out of these historic "corridors". So, from my perspective, it's mostly down to how the add'l film sim dial is implemented and what the general control scheme is going to look like; a continuation of the streamlined X-E4 or a return of more physical controls.

Unless there is an unexpected deviation, it seems logical that pricing will be in line with the X-T50, i.e. 1399 USD.

cafe snapper said:

JohnV2 said:

I would like a very compact travel camera whose pictures I can potentially print and hang on the wall.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but at least the X-T5 which has the same sensor can be set for about 26mp if you want that resolution. I'm assuming the software would reduce the noise through averaging the adjacent pixels together, but never looked into that. You can also use post processing to do the same thing.

However upscaling will at best make the result softer.

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No, It's just a crop down to 26/20mp, there is no pixel binning.

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I don’t think that’s correct. If it was cropping, it would change the effective focal length of your lens. What you might be thinking about is the digital teleconverter.

I’m not sure of the algorithm Fujifilm uses to resize the JPEG, but I think it’s safe to assume that it’s something more sophisticated than bilinear. And it should have some nominal effect of averaging out noise.

GreatOceanSoftware said:

cafe snapper said:

JohnV2 said:

I would like a very compact travel camera whose pictures I can potentially print and hang on the wall.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but at least the X-T5 which has the same sensor can be set for about 26mp if you want that resolution. I'm assuming the software would reduce the noise through averaging the adjacent pixels together, but never looked into that. You can also use post processing to do the same thing.

However upscaling will at best make the result softer.

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No, It's just a crop down to 26/20mp, there is no pixel binning.

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I don’t think that’s correct. If it was cropping, it would change the effective focal length of your lens. What you might be thinking about is the digital teleconverter.

I’m not sure of the algorithm Fujifilm uses to resize the JPEG, but I think it’s safe to assume that it’s something more sophisticated than bilinear. And it should have some nominal effect of averaging out noise.

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Well, there are two things that people might be referring to.

One is the “M” image size, which downsizes the JPEG to lower resolution (I don’t know exactly what it is on the 40MP sensor, but 26MP sounds plausible) while the raw is left untouched.

The other is sports finder mode, where both the JPEG and the raw are cropped. If I recall, this is a 1.4x linear crop so would give about 20MP in the saved files.

(Neither of these are pixel binning.)

GreatOceanSoftware said:

I don’t think that’s correct. If it was cropping, it would change the effective focal length of your lens. What you might be thinking about is the digital teleconverter.

I’m not sure of the algorithm Fujifilm uses to resize the JPEG, but I think it’s safe to assume that it’s something more sophisticated than bilinear. And it should have some nominal effect of averaging out noise.

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Bilinear is remarkably free of artifacts, particularly when downsizing, at least in Photoshop Elements 2020.

I’ve been waiting for this camera for a long time. I started with an XE1 and XP1. Moved up to an XE2. Then stalled as all I saw was larger bodies or dummed down smaller bodies. Took what I hoped would be temporary refuge in m43, finally gave up on Fuji and moved to Sony apsc. Will see once it’s officially announced whether I bite or not.

An issue I see is cost. I’m a prime shooter. Assuming a $1,400 selling price for the body, a Fuji kit, with specs comparable to my a6600 (kit zoom + 4 primes) would come in at double the price. Why, because the Sony lens catalog is absolute garbage and one is forced to go to the Chinese brands. These lenses are very cost effective, are pretty good and show good on a specs comparison. They also happen to be large, have middling feel and build quality and the render is uninspiring. With Fuji, while the Chinese brands are there, IMO you go with Fuji glass. Having owned at least a dozen Fuji lenses, there’s no doubt that’s the way I’d go. The render, the build quality, the copy consistency all promote paying a significantly higher price.

For newcomers that’s a tough sell, especially in what seems to be positioned as a somewhat beginner focused product. For those with an existing inventory of Fuji glass, there’s a market. But that does little to nothing to take share from Sony, Canon, Nikon.

What I was hoping for was a replacement for both the XP and XE. No optical, slightly larger, well executed, expensive, an ILC Leica Q in a more compact form. Sorta sounds like I’ll be sticking with Sony. And keep missing Fuji.