Setting 14 bit Raw on a D810

Hi All,

In the Shooting Menu I go to NEF (Raw)) recording. Then go to NEF(RAW) bit depth: 14-bit. Then go to 14-bit,14-bit and click on OK. And it stays in 14 -bit so long as the camera stays on. But if the camera turns off it then goes to Image size, Raw L and I'm not sure if it's still in 14 bit Raw. (Probably not.)

Firmware is C 1.14 , L 2.015

Any suggestions or instructions much appreciated.

Thanks,

Richard

Ovid46 said:

Hi All,

In the Shooting Menu I go to NEF (Raw)) recording. Then go to NEF(RAW) bit depth: 14-bit. Then go to 14-bit,14-bit and click on OK. And it stays in 14 -bit so long as the camera stays on. But if the camera turns off it then goes to Image size, Raw L and I'm not sure if it's still in 14 bit Raw. (Probably not.)

Firmware is C 1.14 , L 2.015

Any suggestions or instructions much appreciated.

Thanks,

Richard

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The camera should hold your settings. If not, then there's a good chance the internal battery needs to be replaced. In the case of the D810, that's not an easy fix.

Thank you Parry. That makes sense.

Does anyone have a recommendation for how to change the battery?

Richard

Ovid46 said:

Thank you Parry. That makes sense.

Does anyone have a recommendation for how to change the battery?

Richard

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You're welcome. Battery changes are easy, as there's a little lock catch inside the chamber to release the battery. You might not know about that if you're coming from a D300/D700 or earlier where you just have to shake the camera!

However, if you're talking about brands of batteries, all the Nikon EN-EL15 variations will work just fine, and a preferred to third-party options. However, I've had good luck with the DSTE brand batteries. I've got a Z7ii as well that won't work with some Nikon batteries -- variation doesn't matter with that camera -- older versions will sometimes work when newer ones don't. (And the DSTE ones all work, even if not as long for charge!) So, the DSTE brand might be the way to go if you plan on getting a Z camera someday.

Furthermore, a grip is quite useful in a D810. Not only does it double your shots with 2 batteries, it uses the battery in the grip first. So, you can keep shooting even if that battery is drained, making it more convenient to either change batteries at a better time or charge the dead one while still shooting. I've also got a D4, so the bigger EN-EL18 battery can be used in the grip for almost unlimited shooting. (The charger, of course, is different and expensive by itself.) The DSTE grip is a fraction of the cost of the Nikon one, too. (I'm also using a DSTE EN-EL18 battery.)

Parry Johnson said:

Parry Johnson wrote:So, the DSTE brand might be the way to go if you plan on getting a Z camera someday.

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.. or even if one is not planning that.

My DSTE batteries work well in my D70; D90; D300 and D750 cameras and my Panasonic pocketable as well. All at a fraction of the inflated Nikon price.

David Lal said:

David Lal said:

Parry Johnson wrote:So, the DSTE brand might be the way to go if you plan on getting a Z camera someday.

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.. or even if one is not planning that.

My DSTE batteries work well in my D70; D90; D300 and D750 cameras and my Panasonic pocketable as well. All at a fraction of the inflated Nikon price.

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David, that might be someday for you, too!

I've also heard good things about the Wasabi brand, but those are at least double the cost of the DSTE batteries, and therefore getting closer to Nikon brand.

It might be interesting to note that my little Nikon V1 (that uses EN-EL15 batteries) has some sort of short that will wear out Nikon-branded batteries very quickly (I mean "dead", as in "Life span indicator #4 - completely unusable", even if they're brand new!), but doesn't affect the DSTE batteries. I rarely use that camera, so I take out the battery when I'm not using it just to be safe.

Hi Parry, there is no little lock catch inside the chamber to release the battery in the D810 !

Jan

Parry Johnson said:

I rarely use that camera, so I take out the battery when I'm not using it just to be safe.

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Yes, one can't be too careful with lithium batteries. I can't understand solar panel aficionados keeping massive lithium cells inside their homes. Electric vehicles don't seem to be all that safe either. See:

How do you actually get to the battery? Or is this only done by a camera repair tech?

Is the date and time being remembered?

It is keeping the date and time.

Do you think it could do that and not keep the 14bit setting ?

There is a little latch on the battery door chamber on the bottom of the camera (right -bottom corner). Open that latch with your thumbnail, then you'll see the battery and a yellow spring-loaded tab. Move the tab out of the way with your finger/thumb and the battery will pop out.









Easy-peasy!

Has anyone used the website "Drew Captures"?

It has a lot of suggestions for resetting the camera back to the original factory settings. However I've already done that with my D810 according to Nikon's instructions hoping it would correct the 14bit problem. But to no avail.

Any thoughts or suggestions are much appreciated.

Richard

Parry Johnson said:

There is a little latch on the battery door chamber on the bottom of the camera (right -bottom corner). Open that latch with your thumbnail, then you'll see the battery and a yellow spring-loaded tab. Move the tab out of the way with your finger/thumb and the battery will pop out.





Easy-peasy!

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I think the OP is more interested in the internal battery/capacitor which retains info when the normal rechargeable battery is removed. Sometimes it’s a button battery sometimes a soldered capacitor.

Left Eye you may be exactly right. When I followed Parry Johnson's good instructions for how to access the battery/capacitor I found a silver part that looks like it might be it, but it doesn't fall out. Perhaps it's soldered in.

If it's not user replaceable and if the camera is keeping the correct date, which it is doing, maybe it doesn't require changing? I'm considering sending the camera to Nikon.

Richard

There is nothing wrong with your D810 or the internal battery. After you set up 14 bit RAW, it will show up as RAW Large. I just checked my D810. You are O.K.

AWG_Pics said:

There is nothing wrong with your D810 or the internal battery. After you set up 14 bit RAW, it will show up as RAW Large. I just checked my D810. You are O.K.

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Which you can also confirm by just shooting an image after you've set it to 14 bit raw. Select the image and look at the image info.

Hello All.

Thank you for your help.

So far I've learned that setting the camera to Raw 14bit lasts so long as the camera remains on.

I 've looked on the camera in "info" and I don't see 14bit. When I look in PS in "File info" and scroll down thru Exif I don't see it there.

What am I missing here?

Raw 24bit is important to me and now I'm quite confused.

Richard

You are over thinking the process.

To prove to yourself you are still in 14 bit do this:

Set your camera to 12 bit RAW. Shoot an image.

Without turning off the camera, set it to 14 bit RAW. Shoot the same image.

Look at the file sizes.

14-bit RAW files are generally larger than 12-bit RAW files. The exact file size difference depends on the camera model, image size, and compression settings, but 14-bit files will typically be about 1.3 times larger.

AWG,

Followed your suggestion.

In 12 the size is 7360 x 4912.

In 14 the size is 7360 x 4912.

What do you make of this?

Thanks,

Richard