OM-1i vs OM1ii advice

tomhongkong said:

I am debating whether it is worth while upgrading my OM1i to an OM1ii.

I mainly shoot birds, or on the water yachting shots.

Rubberized wheels, moveable delete/menu button, or grad ND do nothing for me.

Improved AF could be a big deal. Can anyone who has OM1i running firmware 1.7 compare AF capability with OM1ii?

The change to separate AF area for initial capture and subsequent tracking (if I have understood it right) might be interesting. Do people find it useful?

Is there anything else which I should consider? It could be a good time to upgrade financially, the OM1i seems to sell for above GBP650 on ebay UK, and the OM1ii costs GBP1200 with OMS guarantee (1 year) in here in HK

However, if I don't gain much other than a new camera to replace a 2 year old one, working perfectly with negligible mechanical shutter count, I could keep the money for a more useful upgrade later.(BWL is calling)

Thanks

tom

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tomhongkong said:

I am debating whether it is worth while upgrading my OM1i to an OM1ii.

I mainly shoot birds, or on the water yachting shots.

Rubberized wheels, moveable delete/menu button, or grad ND do nothing for me.

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tomhongkong said:

Improved AF could be a big deal. Can anyone who has OM1i running firmware 1.7 compare AF capability with OM1ii?

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tomhongkong said:

The change to separate AF area for initial capture and subsequent tracking (if I have understood it right) might be interesting. Do people find it useful?

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tomhongkong said:

Is there anything else which I should consider? It could be a good time to upgrade financially, the OM1i seems to sell for above GBP650 on ebay UK, and the OM1ii costs GBP1200 with OMS guarantee (1 year) in here in HK

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tomhongkong said:

However, if I don't gain much other than a new camera to replace a 2 year old one, working perfectly with negligible mechanical shutter count, I could keep the money for a more useful upgrade later.(BWL is calling)

Thanks

tom

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ikolbyi said:

tomhongkong said:

I am debating whether it is worth while upgrading my OM1i to an OM1ii.

I mainly shoot birds, or on the water yachting shots.

Rubberized wheels, moveable delete/menu button, or grad ND do nothing for me.

Improved AF could be a big deal. Can anyone who has OM1i running firmware 1.7 compare AF capability with OM1ii?

The change to separate AF area for initial capture and subsequent tracking (if I have understood it right) might be interesting. Do people find it useful?

Is there anything else which I should consider? It could be a good time to upgrade financially, the OM1i seems to sell for above GBP650 on ebay UK, and the OM1ii costs GBP1200 with OMS guarantee (1 year) in here in HK

However, if I don't gain much other than a new camera to replace a 2 year old one, working perfectly with negligible mechanical shutter count, I could keep the money for a more useful upgrade later.(BWL is calling)

Thanks

tom

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I own the OM-1.1 as well and I don't personally find any limitations with it for birding using the 300mm F4 PRO + 1.4x TC. I am also using v90 SD cards.

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gary0319 said:

I did the upgrade. Feature and function wise there is not a lot of significant differences, at least for my usage (mostly BiFS and rodeo). However, I immediately could tell there was a lot more “horsepower” under the hood and it made for an overall more responsive camera.

I should mention that I think my OM-3 may even outperform my OM-1 II in the autofocus dept., particularly with bird detect.

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drj3 said:

tomhongkong said:

I am debating whether it is worth while upgrading my OM1i to an OM1ii.

I mainly shoot birds, or on the water yachting shots.

Rubberized wheels, moveable delete/menu button, or grad ND do nothing for me.

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I occasionally find the rubberized dials easier to quickly change focus speed or exposure compensation, but most of the time I don't notice any difference between the two.

drj3 said:

Improved AF could be a big deal. Can anyone who has OM1i running firmware 1.7 compare AF capability with OM1ii?

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The OM1.2 may be slightly better at focusing on a stationary bird behind things, but I just use the single point focus when that is a problem, so it is not an very important to me.

drj3 said:

The change to separate AF area for initial capture and subsequent tracking (if I have understood it right) might be interesting. Do people find it useful?

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I assume you are referring to the OM1.2 maintaining subject ID outside the focus area, once focus is established in the focus area. I do find this useful in that I can use the single or small focus box in situations where subject ID is difficult. If the camera successfully achieves subject ID, I don't have to worry about it moving outside the focus box. So I do find this useful.

drj3 said:

Is there anything else which I should consider? It could be a good time to upgrade financially, the OM1i seems to sell for above GBP650 on ebay UK, and the OM1ii costs GBP1200 with OMS guarantee (1 year) in here in HK

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The stabilization appears to be a little better, but this is only important if you photograph stationary targets with low illumination levels.

Two things I find much more important are the ability to use SH2 at lower frame rates for slower moving targets (down to 12.5 fps) and the much larger buffer for longer bursts. This may be of less importance to others.

I have many thousands of BIF images of many different birds. Now when I photograph them, I am looking for different or more interesting images. I may follow a bird for an extended period of time (200-300+ images) and end up deleting all but one or two images. I often had the OM1.1 slow down the frame rate as the buffer filled.

drj3 said:

However, if I don't gain much other than a new camera to replace a 2 year old one, working perfectly with negligible mechanical shutter count, I could keep the money for a more useful upgrade later.(BWL is calling)

Thanks

tom

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tomhongkong said:

gary0319 said:

I did the upgrade. Feature and function wise there is not a lot of significant differences, at least for my usage (mostly BiFS and rodeo). However, I immediately could tell there was a lot more “horsepower” under the hood and it made for an overall more responsive camera.

I should mention that I think my OM-3 may even outperform my OM-1 II in the autofocus dept., particularly with bird detect.

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The OM3 is very attractive, but whether it really can be a main camera for birding and big lenses, even with an add on grip, is a concern

Thanks for commenting

tom

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gary0319 said:

tomhongkong said:

gary0319 said:

I did the upgrade. Feature and function wise there is not a lot of significant differences, at least for my usage (mostly BiFS and rodeo). However, I immediately could tell there was a lot more “horsepower” under the hood and it made for an overall more responsive camera.

I should mention that I think my OM-3 may even outperform my OM-1 II in the autofocus dept., particularly with bird detect.

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The OM3 is very attractive, but whether it really can be a main camera for birding and big lenses, even with an add on grip, is a concern

Thanks for commenting

tom

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I’ve had a couple of birding outings with the OM-3 and PL100-400….. a pain in the wrist. Not something to do regularly.
I only mentioned the OM-3 because the positivity of the AF surprised me.

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David5833 said:

I don't find the flickering blackout with regular silent sequential to be objectionable, it makes virtually no difference in my ability to track the subject. So, getting a slower frame rate in SH2 isn't a big deal for me, I'd just use regular silent sequential in my 1i for the lower frame rates.

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tomhongkong said:

Is there anything else which I should consider?

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drj3 said:

drj3 said:

The change to separate AF area for initial capture and subsequent tracking (if I have understood it right) might be interesting. Do people find it useful?

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I assume you are referring to the OM1.2 maintaining subject ID outside the focus area, once focus is established in the focus area. I do find this useful in that I can use the single or small focus box in situations where subject ID is difficult. If the camera successfully achieves subject ID, I don't have to worry about it moving outside the focus box. So I do find this useful.

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gary0319 said:

...I have no proof but it seems that the SH2 setting (fast or slow frame rates) works better with the bird detect and following with all focus points hot than does the regular silent sequential. Could be I'm just kidding myself, but that's what it seems to me.

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David5833 said:

gary0319 said:

...I have no proof but it seems that the SH2 setting (fast or slow frame rates) works better with the bird detect and following with all focus points hot than does the regular silent sequential. Could be I'm just kidding myself, but that's what it seems to me.

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I haven't noticed, but every little bit helps so it might be worth checking out. Does it seem to be the case with both the 1.1 and the 1.2? I use SH2 for BIF and ProCap but most of the time 10 FPS is fine for me.

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tomhongkong said:

I am debating whether it is worth while upgrading my OM1i to an OM1ii.

I mainly shoot birds, or on the water yachting shots.

Rubberized wheels, moveable delete/menu button, or grad ND do nothing for me.

Improved AF could be a big deal. Can anyone who has OM1i running firmware 1.7 compare AF capability with OM1ii?

The change to separate AF area for initial capture and subsequent tracking (if I have understood it right) might be interesting. Do people find it useful?

Is there anything else which I should consider? It could be a good time to upgrade financially, the OM1i seems to sell for above GBP650 on ebay UK, and the OM1ii costs GBP1200 with OMS guarantee (1 year) in here in HK

However, if I don't gain much other than a new camera to replace a 2 year old one, working perfectly with negligible mechanical shutter count, I could keep the money for a more useful upgrade later.(BWL is calling)

Thanks

tom

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epozar said:

i had thought human-detection will be the reason to change but it failed.. and then live-GND become the reason to use the later type.

Both models are frustrating to use SAF in low light though

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HicHic said:

tomhongkong said:

I am debating whether it is worth while upgrading my OM1i to an OM1ii.

I mainly shoot birds, or on the water yachting shots.

Rubberized wheels, moveable delete/menu button, or grad ND do nothing for me.

Improved AF could be a big deal. Can anyone who has OM1i running firmware 1.7 compare AF capability with OM1ii?

The change to separate AF area for initial capture and subsequent tracking (if I have understood it right) might be interesting. Do people find it useful?

Is there anything else which I should consider? It could be a good time to upgrade financially, the OM1i seems to sell for above GBP650 on ebay UK, and the OM1ii costs GBP1200 with OMS guarantee (1 year) in here in HK

However, if I don't gain much other than a new camera to replace a 2 year old one, working perfectly with negligible mechanical shutter count, I could keep the money for a more useful upgrade later.(BWL is calling)

Thanks

tom

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How much is OM-1ii in Hong Kong?

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gary0319 said:

David5833 said:

I don't find the flickering blackout with regular silent sequential to be objectionable, it makes virtually no difference in my ability to track the subject. So, getting a slower frame rate in SH2 isn't a big deal for me, I'd just use regular silent sequential in my 1i for the lower frame rates.

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I have no proof but it seems that the SH2 setting (fast or slow frame rates) works better with the bird detect and following with all focus points hot than does the regular silent sequential. Could be I'm just kidding myself, but that's what it seems to me.

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