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Canon PowerShot V1 has a leaf shutter?
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Alex Urban
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I think so, but the flash sync is limited to 1/250 s.
Where did you get the info from? It seems like only DPR mentioned it. I just want to be sure it's a leaf shutter.
flektogon
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Electronic 1st-curtain shutter (still images only); Electronic shutter (Shutter Mode is user-selectable)
Bill60
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From Canon USA press release of 26 March
- Continuous still shooting at up to approximately 30 frames per second, a mechanical shutter with a maximum speed of 1/2000 seconds, and an electronic shutter with a maximum shutter speed of 1/16,000 seconds.
Interesting that Canon's own press release doesn't mention a leaf shutter.
Bill60
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Your question intrigued me so i googled "leaf shutter" for Canon.
"Leaf shutters are not built into Canon's mirrorless cameras, but some leaf shutter lenses can be used with them. In Canon EOS R System mirrorless cameras, such as the EOS R5, EOS R3, EOS R5 Mark II, EOS R10, and EOS R7, you'll find both mechanical and electronic shutters. These cameras do not have a dedicated leaf shutter, but rather an electronic shutter option for silent shooting. If you're looking for leaf shutter functionality, it's typically found in specialized lenses, not the camera body itself."
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"Leaf shutters are not built into Canon's mirrorless cameras, but some leaf shutter lenses can be used with them. In Canon EOS R System mirrorless cameras, such as the EOS R5, EOS R3, EOS R5 Mark II, EOS R10, and EOS R7, you'll find both mechanical and electronic shutters. These cameras do not have a dedicated leaf shutter, but rather an electronic shutter option for silent shooting. If you're looking for leaf shutter functionality, it's typically found in specialized lenses, not the camera body itself."
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I found nothing on Google either. Like I've said many times already, I wonder where DPR got this info from since no one else, including Canon, mentions it. I wonder if this is another DPR error like the Panasonic 20-60mm lens.
flektogon
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Electronic 1-st curtain (EFCS) is like a mechanical shutter, but without the first curtain. The picture exposure starts "electronically", but it ends when the second curtains closes. This shutter type/mode sits somewhere in between a fully mechanical and fully electronic one. And it is actually very good. It has advantages of both types without having one, very significant disadvantage of the mechanical shutter ~ can't cause shaking of the camera/sensor. Better said, it may cause it, but only after the picture has been taken.
O.K. if I was currently looking for a decent, small, photo/video camera, I wouldn't hesitate even a second not to go for V1. Actually, there is not many options. Ricoh GRIII(x), while excellent photo camera, has practically no video. Leica d-lux 8 costs more than twice, but it has one, significant advantage (at least it would be for me), it has EVF. And I would definitely avoid Sony :-( .
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flektogon
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Scroll down, open the spec, and scroll to the shutter spec
https://canon.ca/en/product?name=Po...s/Compact-Digital-Cameras/Video-First-Cameras
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flektogon
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I have clearly answered your question in my first reply. Actually I copied it from the document found under that link, which I later provided. So again, for the still photography you have a choice of EFCS or ES. Video shooting is possible only (of course) with ES.
But you know that saying, don't you: Who can't be advised can't be helped. Sorry.
That's what it looks like to me, reading the Canon specs in the below link.
You didn't answer the question of whether or not it was a "leaf" shutter, except indirectly. I assume it's a focal-plane shutter in order to work with the EFCS system? Perhaps that's the point of confusion. I think if people are looking for an old-school leaf shutter, that's going to be hard to find these days, but if I recall correctly, there were a couple of options a few years ago.
Trying to search for an example, I found this one:
According to this point, the guy was able to see that there was a leaf shutter in his G5X. I found a reference to the G9X II having a leaf shutter as well.
flektogon
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Gary,
By mentioning a "1-st curtain" I assumed that every one would understand that it can't be a leaf shutter. Well, I was wrong :-( .
Now, all small-sensor cameras (and few, large-sensor, fixed lens ones) use a leaf shutter. But in this case (actually, V1 is not a "small-sensor" camera) Canon rather went for a focal-plane shutter. Probably they wanted to re-use what they in stock (from R50?).
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Peter
By mentioning a "1-st curtain" I assumed that every one would understand that it can't be a leaf shutter. Well, I was wrong :-( .
Now, all small-sensor cameras (and few, large-sensor, fixed lens ones) use a leaf shutter. But in this case (actually, V1 is not a "small-sensor" camera) Canon rather went for a focal-plane shutter. Probably they wanted to re-use what they in stock (from R50?).
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Peter
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M4Mobility
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Canon Europe does not mention EFCS at all, only "mechanical shutter " and "electronic shutter".
"Speed: 1/2000 (mechanical), 1/16000 (electronic)"
https://www.canon-europe.com/cameras/powershot-v1/specifications/
also:
"15 fps (mechanical shutter) / 30 fps (electronic shutter)"
Also the menu in the camera has the options of "mechanical" and "electronic". No "EFCS".
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Go revisit the .ca link above. It says "Electronic 1st-curtain shutter" twice. That's EFCS.
That EU site doesn't say anything specific about the shutter type. Even if it were fully manual, it still doesn't tell you what type it is.
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