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Hi, any rumors about a new RX100 m8 camera?

When can we eventually expect this compact camera?

I shall be looking forward to replies, thanks in advance.

Best regards, Herman
 
Hi, any rumors about a new RX100 m8 camera?

When can we eventually expect this compact camera?

I shall be looking forward to replies, thanks in advance.

Best regards, Herman
Get a RX100 VII while you can. A M8 would probably have little improvements, USB-C and the latest AF engine would be the biggest additions.
That itself would be amazing. If Sony wants to keep R&D down, reuse the M7 sensor, add AI-AF, USB-C, and add 10-bit 4K30 videos.
What makes you think that would keep R&D costs down? Which Bionz chip would your design use? Where would you fit the hefty new battery? How would you power the ventilation fan?
This is the M8 we've all been waiting for.
Why wait? It's never going to come. Sony addresses that market with this:
https://www.sony.co.uk/smartphones/products/xperia-1m7
I'll even pay $2k for it!
The Xperia-1M7 is cheaper than that.
Let me know when a Xperia is using a 1" stacked sensor in its entirety and not a portion of it.
It claims night photography on a par with Sony FF cameras ("The new 16 mm ultra wide-angle sensor is 2.1x larger than the previous model5 and the 24 mm lens features our revolutionary Exmor T for mobile sensor. The result is both cameras can deliver night shooting equivalent to full-frame cameras, with low noise and wide dynamic range"). Which 1" sensor camera manages that? It also produces better bokeh for portraits, has an UWA lens with automatic volume deformation correction, 2x macro

The phone uses much brighter lenses and the magic of computational photography to more than make up for the smaller sensor sizes. It's technically superior to any RX100.
Cool story, bro.
 
Hi, any rumors about a new RX100 m8 camera?

When can we eventually expect this compact camera?

I shall be looking forward to replies, thanks in advance.

Best regards, Herman
Get a RX100 VII while you can. A M8 would probably have little improvements, USB-C and the latest AF engine would be the biggest additions.
That itself would be amazing. If Sony wants to keep R&D down, reuse the M7 sensor, add AI-AF, USB-C, and add 10-bit 4K30 videos.
What makes you think that would keep R&D costs down? Which Bionz chip would your design use? Where would you fit the hefty new battery? How would you power the ventilation fan?
This is the M8 we've all been waiting for.
Why wait? It's never going to come. Sony addresses that market with this:
https://www.sony.co.uk/smartphones/products/xperia-1m7
I'll even pay $2k for it!
The Xperia-1M7 is cheaper than that.
Let me know when a Xperia is using a 1" stacked sensor in its entirety and not a portion of it.
It claims night photography on a par with Sony FF cameras ("The new 16 mm ultra wide-angle sensor is 2.1x larger than the previous model5 and the 24 mm lens features our revolutionary Exmor T for mobile sensor. The result is both cameras can deliver night shooting equivalent to full-frame cameras, with low noise and wide dynamic range"). Which 1" sensor camera manages that? It also produces better bokeh for portraits, has an UWA lens with automatic volume deformation correction, 2x macro

The phone uses much brighter lenses and the magic of computational photography to more than make up for the smaller sensor sizes. It's technically superior to any RX100.
Cool story, bro.
It's why the RX100 line is stone, cold dead.
 
Thanks for the replies.

I will start looking for a used RX100 (with evf) with 8,3 optical zoom.

This may take some time, there aren't many used RX100 cams for sale...

Haven't found the RX100 viia yet at shops.

Best regards, Herman
That narrows it down to the RX100VI and VII(A).
 
Hi, any rumors about a new RX100 m8 camera?

When can we eventually expect this compact camera?

I shall be looking forward to replies, thanks in advance.
Let's see, just some examples of the rumors:

* March 2020 rumor of October 2020 announcement;

* June 2024 rumor of announcement before the end of 2024;

* July 2024 rumor; and

* a month ago, rumor discussion on this forum (24-300mm-equivalent, f/2.8-5.6, better battery, UHS II V90 support, $1980 U.S.).

But as is almost always the case:

(1) those who truly know are very unlikely to say, and those who will say are very unlikely to truly know; and

(2) plans can change with market and geopolitical conditions.
 
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Hi, any rumors about a new RX100 m8 camera?

When can we eventually expect this compact camera?

I shall be looking forward to replies, thanks in advance.
Let's see, just some examples of the rumors:

* March 2020 rumor of October 2020 announcement;

* June 2024 rumor of announcement before the end of 2024;

* July 2024 rumor; and

* a month ago, rumor discussion on this forum (24-300mm-equivalent, f/2.8-5.6, better battery, UHS II V90 support, $1980 U.S.).

But as is almost always the case:

(1) those who truly know are very unlikely to say, and those who will say are very unlikely to truly know; and

(2) plans can change with market and geopolitical conditions.
It’s pretty clear that Sony abandoned the RX and all other CyberShot lines six years ago. All work, even firmware updates, abruptly ceased then, presumably because of an executive decision from above.

The RX100M7 was released in an unfinished state, and they never even did the easy transplant of the small enhancements from that model to the RX10M4.

So it’s clear that none of the several ‘New RX camera coming soon’ rumours had any foundations in reality. In fact, the only useful rumours are the very detailed ones of new gear coming within the next month or so. They are based on leaks from outside Sony when new stuff is released to early reviewers and the distribution channel. Sometimes it happens when new cameras are registered in China a few weeks before release.

But any vague ‘new Sony models coming in a few months’ rumours are almost guaranteed to be completely unfounded. At best, they’re based on the previous model release cycle, which is assumed to continue; more typically, they’re just made-up clickbait.
 
Hi

If you can consider second hand, MPB Europe has today the following:
3 Sony RX100VI's at 924€ and 6 Sony RX100VII's between 1119 and 1179€.

Best regards,
Has production for the M7 stopped? I know it's overpriced for such an old camera, but there is nothing like it in the market. I would still strive for new if possible.
 
* a month ago, rumor discussion on this forum (24-300mm-equivalent, f/2.8-5.6, better battery, UHS II V90 support, $1980 U.S.).
Why are you quoting an April Fool's post as being relevant?
IMO that post / those specifications are about as relevant as anything else I've seen. They're all somewhere on the spectrum of plausible speculation at best, to ridiculous fantasy or parody at worst.

I've long been a fan of the RX100-series. And I think there's a profitable market for a putative new RX100 with the latest-and-greatest AF, a truly useful touchscreen, and maybe a bigger battery. For the lens, I think arguments can be made for the existing 24-70mm f/1.8-2.8, the existing 25-200mm f/2.8-4.5, a new 25-300mm f/2.8-5.6 (as Fooled), or (my personal favorite) a new 24-105mm f/2-4.
 
* a month ago, rumor discussion on this forum (24-300mm-equivalent, f/2.8-5.6, better battery, UHS II V90 support, $1980 U.S.).
Why are you quoting an April Fool's post as being relevant?
IMO that post / those specifications are about as relevant as anything else I've seen. They're all somewhere on the spectrum of plausible speculation at best, to ridiculous fantasy or parody at worst.

I've long been a fan of the RX100-series. And I think there's a profitable market for a putative new RX100 with the latest-and-greatest AF, a truly useful touchscreen, and maybe a bigger battery. For the lens, I think arguments can be made for the existing 24-70mm f/1.8-2.8, the existing 25-200mm f/2.8-4.5, a new 25-300mm f/2.8-5.6 (as Fooled), or (my personal favorite) a new 24-105mm f/2-4.
I think that if there were to be a true RX1007 successor, it would have to be completely re-thought and heavily based on mobile phone technology, that would allow much better performance from the small package. Modern phones have numerous innovations that deliver much higher resolution, much better low light performance, shallow DoF portraits, lots of AI assistance, live streaming to the web, etc. That’s what buyers now expect.

Perhaps the inspiration should be smart watches, which provide a unique set of functions to complement a paired phone. A smart camera would do something similar, using a bigger lens than will fit into a slim smartphone, but designed to complement one.
 
It looks like the RX100 VIIA is in production, replacing the VII, but is not fully available yet.
 
It looks like the RX100 VIIA is in production, replacing the VII, but is not fully available yet.
Maybe intended only for Europe and UK, the production has dropped back to intermittent small batches made every (possibly) 3 months to satisfy back orders it seems.

The M7A is simply the same old M7 but with (possibly) in-camera charging disabled and a Sony charger (BC-DCX2) in the box. Neither have USB-C, they both still have the usual old micro-USB. That's the cheap and nasty way to get around the Euro rules on USB-C connectors for in-camera charging.

In quick searching the M7A only appears for the Euro and UK markets, I did not find mention of it in other markets.
 
Sony RX100 M7A is available at https://www.fotokoch-shop.nl/Sony-D...w-compact-camera-tas-64GB-batterij_28958.html

I think sony put the rx100m7a into production to meet the eu regulations for usb-c connection. I also expect that sony is working on a successor and that it will be released soon.
If they were working on a successor, there would be little need to bring out an RX100M7A unless the successor would be a significant stepback in some regard (like the RX100M6 was compared to the RX100M5 with regard to maximum aperture, justifying the release of an RX100M5A).

Even then I'd expect them to start with an RX100M8 release before tackling RX100M7A. So I see it more as a sign that an RX100M8 is still way off, if planned at all.
 
Sony RX100 M7A is available at https://www.fotokoch-shop.nl/Sony-D...w-compact-camera-tas-64GB-batterij_28958.html

I think sony put the rx100m7a into production to meet the eu regulations for usb-c connection. I also expect that sony is working on a successor and that it will be released soon.
If they were working on a successor, there would be little need to bring out an RX100M7A unless the successor would be a significant stepback in some regard (like the RX100M6 was compared to the RX100M5 with regard to maximum aperture, justifying the release of an RX100M5A).

Even then I'd expect them to start with an RX100M8 release before tackling RX100M7A. So I see it more as a sign that an RX100M8 is still way off, if planned at all.
It was cancelled in 2019.
 
Sony RX100 M7A is available at https://www.fotokoch-shop.nl/Sony-D...w-compact-camera-tas-64GB-batterij_28958.html

I think sony put the rx100m7a into production to meet the eu regulations for usb-c connection. I also expect that sony is working on a successor and that it will be released soon.
There will be no successor. The CyberShot division was abruptly shut down six years ago. Otherwise the M7 would have been released a few months later than it was, with more features, and there would have been an M8 by the end of 2021. We would have been speculating by now about when the M10 would arrive.
 
* a month ago, rumor discussion on this forum (24-300mm-equivalent, f/2.8-5.6, better battery, UHS II V90 support, $1980 U.S.).
That was an April fools joke. That said my RX100VII is good enough the way it is and I desire nothing better.

--
Tom
 
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* a month ago, rumor discussion on this forum (24-300mm-equivalent, f/2.8-5.6, better battery, UHS II V90 support, $1980 U.S.).
That was an April fools joke.
Yes, but it seems to me at least as plausible as many of the other RX100 rumors we've seen over the years. At least with this subject, the lines dividing April Fool's joke from 'legitimate' rumor from wishcasting seem pretty blurry to me.
That said my RX100VII is good enough the way it is and I desire nothing better.
As far as good enough, my RX100 IV remains a very capable camera for its size. There are times when I wish for a VII or a Va, and if money were no object, I'd own one of each. Way back before there was even a Mk. II, I rented an original RX100 for a special trip, and it amazed me. If it had had a viewfinder and lens not quite so slow at the long end, it would have seemed perfect at the time. Of course time and capability march on; my take on the future, hopes, and possibilities:

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/68275587
 
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