Mike B USA
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What gear does everyone else seem to love that doesn't work for you?
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Okay, now let's list OVERRATED gear you didn't find useful
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richj20
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I can't think of anything... everything I have works well for me.
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Dr Jason Polak
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Personally, I think that machine-learning denoising is overrated. First, I don't use it, but I've tested it. Of course, it's good and does a better job than traditional denoising. But, I find that modern cameras are so good at ISO 3200 and below that the difference between ML denoising and traditional denoising is irrelevant there. And, although it can be used to make a good shot even cleaner with less noisy appearance, it also seems to have the philosophy of making barely passable shots acceptable, which I think is kind of harmful to photography. Finally, it also interpolates/redraws a little which I think is overstepping the bounds of .my personal rules for my own photography
Just my opinion though – to each their own I guess.
Just my opinion though – to each their own I guess.
tbcass
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On that point I disagree 1000%.
I shoot sports, often in poor light, so I use ISO 6400 and even much higher all the time up to ISO 25,600. AI denoising is a game changer for me.
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tbcass
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Because modern RAW Noise reduction and improved camera sensors I haven't used my flash in years. I wonder if it still works.
I don't like the word overrated because different people rate things differently ... but a very popular tool that holds no appeal for me personally is a 70-200mm f/2.8 lens. My typical use cases just don't call for one.
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Concert photographers would disagree! 70-200mm f2.8 is a great lens for that scenario amongst other things...
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Ryan Schwartz
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It's difficult to think in terms of overrated gear because each genre is different.
I don't need F2.8 glass going out and shooting landscapes for an extended period of time, nor do I need the body with the fastest AF in that scenario.
I don't need big and bulky for travel.
I mean it's nice to have a 45 MP camera for landscapes and astro, but I don't print a lot. Is it nice to have when I need it? Yes, but not essential every time I'm out with the camera.
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I don't need F2.8 glass going out and shooting landscapes for an extended period of time, nor do I need the body with the fastest AF in that scenario.
I don't need big and bulky for travel.
I mean it's nice to have a 45 MP camera for landscapes and astro, but I don't print a lot. Is it nice to have when I need it? Yes, but not essential every time I'm out with the camera.
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Ryan Schwartz
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I feel AI de-nosing has made smaller and older sensor digital cameras relevant again. These cameras would get noisy in a hurry with higher ISOs. Modern software now does wonders for them that in-camera NR in these older bodies can't help because of the technical limitations at the time.
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Mike B USA
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Lots of people love them. If you're someone who loves your messenger bag, I'm happy for you. Bags are personal choice and I've never warmed up to the narrow, deep bag.
a_c_skinner
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Panoramic tripod heads.
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I've tried several, and they just don't seem to work for the kind of shooting I do. Carrying the thing around, setting it up, taking it down, worrying about it collapsing with the camera on it; it's all a lot of hassle and worry and it just slows me down. I am not a beast of burden. Nowadays, with good quality jpegs at high ISOs so easy to get, I just jack up my shutter speed, put a lens on the camera and go out for a walk.
I do still own a tripod, a big old sturdy one, for the few occasions somebody wants a serious image of a static subject for print, but it's definitely a special effect for me and it spends most of the time standing in a corner.
I do still own a tripod, a big old sturdy one, for the few occasions somebody wants a serious image of a static subject for print, but it's definitely a special effect for me and it spends most of the time standing in a corner.
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Me neither, except for very small ones. A little mini messenger can be great for a small camera with a pancake lens or similar.
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-Nikon 40mm f2 Z. Could never get pleasing colors out of it.
-1" sensor cameras. APSC produces much better results for me and the photos from the larger sensor get compressed less by social media platforms.
-Very camera bag looking, rigid bags from brands like Lowepro, Peak Design and Thinktank. I'd rather have a flexible, purse-like Domke or a literal purse 10 times out of 10 instead of having a rigid bag for my camera.
-1" sensor cameras. APSC produces much better results for me and the photos from the larger sensor get compressed less by social media platforms.
-Very camera bag looking, rigid bags from brands like Lowepro, Peak Design and Thinktank. I'd rather have a flexible, purse-like Domke or a literal purse 10 times out of 10 instead of having a rigid bag for my camera.
I have a particular distaste for gripless retro-styled cameras.
When it comes to software, anything from the big subscription-based spyware vendor Adobe.
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Tripods, filters, teleconverters, anything that slows you down. Those are not for me. I want to move, explore, experiment.
I swear, the moment I set up a tripod, something interesting starts to happen right where the tripod is not. They are boredom incarnate.
I'm happy for you if you have the patience for all that faff. I don't.
I swear, the moment I set up a tripod, something interesting starts to happen right where the tripod is not. They are boredom incarnate.
I'm happy for you if you have the patience for all that faff. I don't.
Agreed, I have tripods but very rarely use one, too heavy, inconvenient and always in the wrong place.
You may call something overrated because you don't have a use for it, someone else might use it all the time. My list includes:
- Slings;I don't trust tripod bushes that much
- Filters; I just don't use them, I have some but they are inconvenient to use
- Tripods and L brackets;Tripods are a pain to carry and an L bracket is only any use with a tripos
- Fully articulated screens; I can't get my head around composing on a screen so one that is offset from the lens is even worse
- Built-in flash; I rarely use flash so I certainly don't want to carry around something I won't use
- Video; I don't shoot video but I know that modern cameras are basically video cameras. Given that video is in cameras to stay, let me at least deactivate the video menus.
Richard B99
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It kind of makes me wonder what type of photos you take when you think that raw noise reduction is more effective than a speedlight in all situations. I’ll take a small speedlight in my bag even for a bit of fill on occasions.
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