SONY 28-70 2.0 GM feedback and photos

I found these photos last night. Absolutely stunning. Stitched obviously, which would make a wider lower range unnecessary.

I also own the 12-24 GM II so that's not an issue. I'm all about quality, detail, and now the flexibility of a zoom out on the streets, and being able to capture low light on the streets.

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1893909/0
I don't think anyone would systematically think about shooting panorama because your lens is too narrow
I do this all the time... /shrug
Buy a wider lens
I'll do as I please, thank you very much. I own an 11mm, two 20/21mm, and a 17-50mm; sometimes they're the better tool for the job, sometimes stitching with a longer FL is actually preferable cause it'll lead to a higher res shot. I prefer the UWAs when I'm exaggerating perspective, for some vistas I prefer stitching with a 35/50 or even a 75mm, and it's pretty darn easy to do.

Still considering the 16G (which I'd carry at times in place of a 20mm, paired with 35mm), and it still won't stop me from opting to stitch at times. I'm sorry but I'm not sorry it doesn't fit your world view of how photographers behave.
Sorry but this is going wildely off topic

Are you considering buying this lens or not? I don't care about your habits and stitching
 
This lens is already reduced 10% at wex in UK. I have never seen that happening for new Sony lenses. it is also included in the welcome to alpha which is unusual for new launches

The 16-35GMII has yet to have any price reduction and is not part of summer or winter cashback only the welcome to alpha

Personally I am not interested in this lens as I only shoot wider that f/2.8 wide angle lenses and this is not one. I struggle to see a use case when you can get 35 and 50 GM two lenses that are the sharpest Sony has ever made.
The lens has been selling out regularly on Sony's website, showing either a Notify me button or a delayed shipping time, like as of right now. I haven't seen any discount on the US website.

The 16-35 GM II is in stock, and shows the same cash back offer.

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That doesn't fit the proposed narrative heh, what's funny is he just bought a 12-24 GM which is as niche as anything else, they're all great lenses catering to different audiences and use cases... I think unless you work at Sony's bean counting office it'd be a stretch to call any of them a flop, specially based on some observation around the relatively small market in the UK.
I wonder who is going to buy this lens because the use case is very specific
Events are a specific use case yes, but there's a lot of photogs shooting a lot of events worldwide.
I am not interested and to me it is madness but one of my past bosses once said

It does not matter how stupid is the idea behind your product someone somewhere in the world will wake up and will want to free themselves from their money to buy something so it is impossible you get total zero sales
I think Sony probably evaluated the market a little better than that, but you're entitled to your opinion.
My question to you is would you buy this lens? And what for?
If I was covering events or concerts in a professional capacity I would consider it, same with weddings, certain sports shot at very close distances, etc. I'd probably start with the 50-150 though and then decide how much wider I wanna go.
video as advertised on the lens page or what else is going to make something happen you can't already do with lenses that exist?
I don't really understand what makes it that much wilder to you than older 24-70s at not too dissimilar weights.
The US is not a good metric for penetration is such a large market there is always a fool as per logic above
Plenty of sales in the US, I'd say that makes it a good metric. Let's turn this around, what makes you think your 12-24 GM is any less niche? From what I've seen the only people that stretch for that one are astro photographers and certain people that want the absolute best for interiors and architecture, but a lot of those people also settle for the G or the Sigma, and it's just as heavy and as expensive as this one.
Nobody the 12-24 is a niche lens. I never said the contrary you seem to be able to see things others dont write read more carefully please
Even if it is niche to whatever extent, who cares? Sony is now in a position where they have most of the bases covered, it frees them up to experiment like this and broaden the system's appeal on the fringes, that's ultimately a good thing for everyone shooting it.
Petapixels agrees with me this lens has a really small use case it is surprising sonu has made it and who needs it will love it.

But who needs it is a small set of people

12-24 is a choice if you want to combine with 24-70 and 70-200

28-70 and 50-150 are what exactly? Sony expensive white response (yuk) to tamron 35-150

Are you going to buy this lens? I own around 35 lenses at present I am a pretty good customer of the local wex store and am not gonna bother

What are you going to do ? Save up to buy or what? Your profile says student in puerto rico and your lens assortment is not in the category of this lens aka you cant afford this kind of gear

so why get wound up? I can buy it but I wont', you seem like you cant buy it judging from your gear you have nothing worth more than 2K new at lens level

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This lens is already reduced 10% at wex in UK. I have never seen that happening for new Sony lenses. it is also included in the welcome to alpha which is unusual for new launches

The 16-35GMII has yet to have any price reduction and is not part of summer or winter cashback only the welcome to alpha

Personally I am not interested in this lens as I only shoot wider that f/2.8 wide angle lenses and this is not one. I struggle to see a use case when you can get 35 and 50 GM two lenses that are the sharpest Sony has ever made.
The lens has been selling out regularly on Sony's website, showing either a Notify me button or a delayed shipping time, like as of right now. I haven't seen any discount on the US website.

The 16-35 GM II is in stock, and shows the same cash back offer.
That doesn't fit the proposed narrative heh, what's funny is he just bought a 12-24 GM which is as niche as anything else, they're all great lenses catering to different audiences and use cases... I think unless you work at Sony's bean counting office it'd be a stretch to call any of them a flop, specially based on some observation around the relatively small market in the UK.
I wonder who is going to buy this lens because the use case is very specific

I am not interested and to me it is madness but one of my past bosses once said

It does not matter how stupid is the idea behind your product someone somewhere in the world will wake up and will want to free themselves from their money to buy something so it is impossible you get total zero sales

My question to you is would you buy this lens? And what for? video as advertised on the lens page or what else is going to make something happen you can't already do with lenses that exist?

The US is not a good metric for penetration is such a large market there is always a fool as per logic above
Why would any product be madness? There are people spending 10k on the cheapest Rolex even though a 10 dollar Casio keeps better time. And the AP guys laugh at both while spending 6 figures. Same with cars, houses, boats, computers... Your point?

Why would you ask me if I would buy this lens and what for? Did you read my OP?

I asked for feedback and photos on the 28-70 2.0 GM, from owners, and only got one.

And yes, I placed the order today, together with the new 50-150. 7.2k with taxes.
 
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I guess I'm the one wedding photographer that this lens has been a godsend for.

35mm and 50mm are my normal focal lengths for 90% of a wedding day, but primes just don't give me that flexibility in tight spaces, and 2.8 zooms just don't give the separation and contrast/colour depth at f2.8.

Anyone who says "just bring lighting" hasn't shot a lot of weddings.

The lens gives me everything my primes do, plus the added flexibility either side of 35mm and 50mm.

I'll be buying the new 50-150 in a heartbeat too. Takes literally one wedding to pay for a lens, so the price isn't a headache.



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I guess I'm the one wedding photographer that this lens has been a godsend for.

35mm and 50mm are my normal focal lengths for 90% of a wedding day, but primes just don't give me that flexibility in tight spaces, and 2.8 zooms just don't give the separation and contrast/colour depth at f2.8.

Anyone who says "just bring lighting" hasn't shot a lot of weddings.

The lens gives me everything my primes do, plus the added flexibility either side of 35mm and 50mm.

I'll be buying the new 50-150 in a heartbeat too. Takes literally one wedding to pay for a lens, so the price isn't a headache.
Thank you for sharing, much appreciated!

I get asked to do weddings every other month, usually stemming from a headshot job. I did a couple back in the day but was pretty exhausted after those never ending days (and nights). How long is your average wedding shot?

While I love my primes - I can't wait to get things done with those two 2.0 zooms. While I own 3 x A7Rs, I'm tired of walking around / working with 2 bodies or switching lenses all the time.
 
I guess I'm the one wedding photographer that this lens has been a godsend for.

35mm and 50mm are my normal focal lengths for 90% of a wedding day, but primes just don't give me that flexibility in tight spaces, and 2.8 zooms just don't give the separation and contrast/colour depth at f2.8.

Anyone who says "just bring lighting" hasn't shot a lot of weddings.

The lens gives me everything my primes do, plus the added flexibility either side of 35mm and 50mm.

I'll be buying the new 50-150 in a heartbeat too. Takes literally one wedding to pay for a lens, so the price isn't a headache.
Thank you for sharing, much appreciated!

I get asked to do weddings every other month, usually stemming from a headshot job. I did a couple back in the day but was pretty exhausted after those never ending days (and nights). How long is your average wedding shot?

While I love my primes - I can't wait to get things done with those two 2.0 zooms. While I own 3 x A7Rs, I'm tired of walking around / working with 2 bodies or switching lenses all the time.
My coverage is typically 9-10hrs (usually 11am-8:45pm), and I shoot around 130-150 weddings per year–so I'm all about efficiencies on kit and weight!

Thanks to the 28-70/2, I'm now able to shoot 60-70% of the day on one body, which is huge for me.
 
You can check some samples from Venice with this lens and the A9III on my IG Profile:

https://www.instagram.com/belloniofficial/

The lens is wonderful and incredible light for the size. The quality is excellent at avery F stop and every focal lenght.

Let me know.
 
I found these photos last night. Absolutely stunning. Stitched obviously, which would make a wider lower range unnecessary.

I also own the 12-24 GM II so that's not an issue. I'm all about quality, detail, and now the flexibility of a zoom out on the streets, and being able to capture low light on the streets.

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1893909/0
I don't think anyone would systematically think about shooting panorama because your lens is too narrow
I do this all the time... /shrug
Buy a wider lens
I'll do as I please, thank you very much. I own an 11mm, two 20/21mm, and a 17-50mm; sometimes they're the better tool for the job, sometimes stitching with a longer FL is actually preferable cause it'll lead to a higher res shot. I prefer the UWAs when I'm exaggerating perspective, for some vistas I prefer stitching with a 35/50 or even a 75mm, and it's pretty darn easy to do.

Still considering the 16G (which I'd carry at times in place of a 20mm, paired with 35mm), and it still won't stop me from opting to stitch at times. I'm sorry but I'm not sorry it doesn't fit your world view of how photographers behave.
Sorry but this is going wildely off topic

Are you considering buying this lens or not?
Are you?
I don't care about your habits and stitching

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You're the one that started harping on that specifically...
 
This lens is already reduced 10% at wex in UK. I have never seen that happening for new Sony lenses. it is also included in the welcome to alpha which is unusual for new launches

The 16-35GMII has yet to have any price reduction and is not part of summer or winter cashback only the welcome to alpha

Personally I am not interested in this lens as I only shoot wider that f/2.8 wide angle lenses and this is not one. I struggle to see a use case when you can get 35 and 50 GM two lenses that are the sharpest Sony has ever made.
The lens has been selling out regularly on Sony's website, showing either a Notify me button or a delayed shipping time, like as of right now. I haven't seen any discount on the US website.

The 16-35 GM II is in stock, and shows the same cash back offer.

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That doesn't fit the proposed narrative heh, what's funny is he just bought a 12-24 GM which is as niche as anything else, they're all great lenses catering to different audiences and use cases... I think unless you work at Sony's bean counting office it'd be a stretch to call any of them a flop, specially based on some observation around the relatively small market in the UK.
I wonder who is going to buy this lens because the use case is very specific
Events are a specific use case yes, but there's a lot of photogs shooting a lot of events worldwide.
I am not interested and to me it is madness but one of my past bosses once said

It does not matter how stupid is the idea behind your product someone somewhere in the world will wake up and will want to free themselves from their money to buy something so it is impossible you get total zero sales
I think Sony probably evaluated the market a little better than that, but you're entitled to your opinion.
My question to you is would you buy this lens? And what for?
If I was covering events or concerts in a professional capacity I would consider it, same with weddings, certain sports shot at very close distances, etc. I'd probably start with the 50-150 though and then decide how much wider I wanna go.
video as advertised on the lens page or what else is going to make something happen you can't already do with lenses that exist?
I don't really understand what makes it that much wilder to you than older 24-70s at not too dissimilar weights.
The US is not a good metric for penetration is such a large market there is always a fool as per logic above
Plenty of sales in the US, I'd say that makes it a good metric. Let's turn this around, what makes you think your 12-24 GM is any less niche? From what I've seen the only people that stretch for that one are astro photographers and certain people that want the absolute best for interiors and architecture, but a lot of those people also settle for the G or the Sigma, and it's just as heavy and as expensive as this one.
Nobody the 12-24 is a niche lens. I never said the contrary you seem to be able to see things others dont write read more carefully please
I see you on a multi-post crusade to declare it a sales flop and a questionable release, why? To what end? You've bought similarly niche lenses so what's wrong with this one other than the fact that it's not for you? And if it isn't why are you so active on a thread about it? (along with 50-150 threads)

Maybe if you had a reasonable answer to any of that, the comments would make more sense.
Even if it is niche to whatever extent, who cares? Sony is now in a position where they have most of the bases covered, it frees them up to experiment like this and broaden the system's appeal on the fringes, that's ultimately a good thing for everyone shooting it.
Petapixels agrees with me this lens has a really small use case it is surprising sonu has made it and who needs it will love it.
PetsPixels says a lot of nonsense, not sure they're the arbiter of common sense...
But who needs it is a small set of people
So?
12-24 is a choice if you want to combine with 24-70 and 70-200
Or with 28-70, voila. Not everyone lives and dies by 24 vs 28.
28-70 and 50-150 are what exactly? Sony expensive white response (yuk) to tamron 35-150
What's wrong with that? You could have left that comment linger without the personal bias ("yuk") and it would be harder to interpret it as axe grinding, but you didn't. Don't yuk others' yum.
Are you going to buy this lens? I own around 35 lenses at present I am a pretty good customer of the local wex store and am not gonna bother
Congratulations.
What are you going to do ? Save up to buy or what? Your profile says student in puerto rico and your lens assortment is not in the category of this lens aka you cant afford this kind of gear
I didn't realize you had a report on my finances, lol. I've never updated that part of the profile but the rest of my lenses easily total a sum far higher than the price of this lens, including primes within the same range, and that doesn't even include some of the stuff I've bought and gifted to family. I can afford it just fine. Why are you making this personal tho, what's it to you? Woke up on the wrong side of the bed today bud?
so why get wound up?
I'm cool like the other side of the pillow, it's all good, I don't mind a good debate. If you're not buying it then I don't see why you're so adamant to declare what it is or isn't though. I'm not sure what part of my previous comment could be interpreted as wound up, talk about needing to read more carefully... 😂
I can buy it but I wont',
You could've left it at that, doesn't require an expose on why few others might or might not.
you seem like you cant buy it judging from your gear you have nothing worth more than 2K new at lens level

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There are few DPR members behave in such way that either my way (on my choice) or highway ;-) Whatever my choices are the only best while others are basically trashes.

There is no right or wrong, as long as it works for individuals on respective priority and condition :-D
 
You can check some samples from Venice with this lens and the A9III on my IG Profile:
https://www.instagram.com/belloniofficial/

The lens is wonderful and incredible light for the size. The quality is excellent at avery F stop and every focal lenght.
Let me know.
Man, I love the last upload on your IG! Those colors, and the background shares the right amount of details and context.

That's the type of photo I was hoping for. Thanks for sharing.
 
On portrait shoots, I normally shoot primes such as the 35mm f1.2, 50mm f1.2, 85mm f1.4 and 135mm f1.8 with two bodies. I decided to try my new GM 28-70mm f2 a couple weeks ago. I was a bit amazed with how great the results were! I'm now eyeing the GM 50-150mm f2 lens. :)

One thing that surprised me was how often I used 28mm f2, as in the photo, below.

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A1 II, GM 28-70mm f2, ISO 50, 28mm, 1/800, AD 300 strobe in HSS, purple smoke bomb in junkyard

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On portrait shoots, I normally shoot primes such as the 35mm f1.2, 50mm f1.2, 85mm f1.4 and 135mm f1.8 with two bodies. I decided to try my new GM 28-70mm f2 a couple weeks ago. I was a bit amazed with how great the results were! I'm now eyeing the GM 50-150mm f2 lens. :)

One thing that surprised me was how often I used 28mm f2, as in the photo, below.

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A1 II, GM 28-70mm f2, ISO 50, 28mm, 1/800, AD 300 strobe in HSS, purple smoke bomb in junkyard


Thanks Jeff, for the outstanding photo! I can't wait to receive both lenses. Looks like they do have their own character and brilliance - unlike most Sony primes.
 

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