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Trump exempts computers, phones, etc. from tariffs
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I wondered about TVs.
Some years ago, one of the TV networks did a stunt where they replaced all the stuff in a house with American products. That led to some unrealities, like putting a Viking range in the kitchen. (A luxury item, probably not what the owners would have purchased.)
There was no TV. I don't recall when the last nominally American TVs were made, but I'm pretty sure they used CRTs. (Curtis Mathes? Wikipedia states that they went Chapter 11 in 1982.)
Some years ago, one of the TV networks did a stunt where they replaced all the stuff in a house with American products. That led to some unrealities, like putting a Viking range in the kitchen. (A luxury item, probably not what the owners would have purchased.)
There was no TV. I don't recall when the last nominally American TVs were made, but I'm pretty sure they used CRTs. (Curtis Mathes? Wikipedia states that they went Chapter 11 in 1982.)
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I remember when ABC built a house with all US parts. The only thing they couldn't source from the US were the nails. They had to get a company to special make the nails.
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I suspect that would be harder today. Aside from the house itself and some of our art objects, there's not a lot of stuff in ours that I'm sure is "Made in USA". I'm guessing someone in Trump's inner circle finally got it across just how hard it would be to make consumer electronics entirely in the U.S.
Around 1990, someone at DARPA (the defense advanced research projects agency) became concerned that no flat panel displays were manufactured in the US. Flat panel displays were used in defense equipment, including avionics.
DARPA put some funding into developing US sources. As far as I know, no panels are made in the US at this time. For any US products that incorporate flat panels, the panels are made overseas.
Wonder if China will voluntarily increase prices for those products to the U.S. as existing contracts expire, as part of their retaliation to the Trump China tariffs. We may not be out of the woods yet.
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a Television set is about the most useless propaganda device in someone's home.
so i got rid of mine over 30 years ago, because i felt it was a waste of time and addictive. it went back to costco, it was a small one too.
there are so many better things out there to have than a TV; my computer uses YouTube a lot to view things i wanna see. including photography issues.
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I wanna relax on my couch and watch "Nova" (and sometimes "Nature") on a nice big screen with a soundbar. Nothing wrong with passive entertainment as long as the content isn't trying to persuade me to do anything I wouldn't do otherwise.
(Of course, that rules out the vast majority of mass media.)
I regard most online activity (reading or posting in forums, for example) as a waste of time. But I enjoy it.
I don't spend a lot of time on YouTube.
I speak only for myself.
My TV set is partly used as a home theater. Yet another hobby. Hobbies are, by definition, a waste of time.
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yeah, Nova is an exception.
good thing i can get Nova here with a click of the mouse: https://www.youtube.com/@novapbs
no, i was done with TV after getting honest about what TV was and my Lack of control.
i invested in a Library and a Computer and haven't looked back.
When countries engage with each other in trade that generates a cascading slew of interdependencies that makes armed conflict less likely.
Some might say that has been one of the keystones of international relations that has prevented nuclear holocaust.
A trade war has that word "war" in it, of which nuclear holocaust is but a subgenre.
No one forced global, not just American, manufacturers to move to China and other low cost (labor and lack of environmental protections) second and third world countries, it was corporate greed and corrupt politicians/corporate tax laws. The tax laws, not tariffs but corporate income tax, that promoted outsourcing manufacturing are the self-inflicted scourge of all first world countries. Changing those laws, rather than shifting the penalties to consumers via tariffs, as a way to effect industrial policy is way too rational to ever happen and would impair the flow of first world "political donations".
A stable genius knows best.
Some might say that has been one of the keystones of international relations that has prevented nuclear holocaust.
A trade war has that word "war" in it, of which nuclear holocaust is but a subgenre.
No one forced global, not just American, manufacturers to move to China and other low cost (labor and lack of environmental protections) second and third world countries, it was corporate greed and corrupt politicians/corporate tax laws. The tax laws, not tariffs but corporate income tax, that promoted outsourcing manufacturing are the self-inflicted scourge of all first world countries. Changing those laws, rather than shifting the penalties to consumers via tariffs, as a way to effect industrial policy is way too rational to ever happen and would impair the flow of first world "political donations".
A stable genius knows best.
atom14
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Bridge. Don't you see what you're saying? It's nearly a full-circle turn-around. Your original statement was only tenuously attached to the rest of this thread: television - as mere opinions often are.
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i see the Internet as superior to me than television could ever dream to be. television is not interactive, actually it puts one into a Beta brain wave of non thinking and inputs the Programmers ideas into our heads.
that was one of the reasons i got rid of television, to gain back control of my own mind.
Nova is an excellent use of television however, and is easily incorporated and available to anyone with an Internet connection. since he reminded me concerning Nova, i may chance to see what they are producing lately.
If my memory is correct, Honeywell made high end panels in the 90's, likely for the uses you describe. They were never available in the consumer market.
There was an era when that definition might have been accepted as the norm, in purely materialistic times. In reality, hobbies can be, and often are, an investment in mental sanity and spiritual balance.
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If China increases prices only for the U.S., maybe we can get some of our stuff from middlemen in other countries (at a smaller extra cost) just like the sanctioned nations do to us.
Where demand exists, supply will find a way.
NOVA recently had a show about UFOs that was interesting . . .
I'm not sure that any of my hobbies provide "spiritual balance". Or "mental sanity".
I walk in the park for those. My sole investment for that was for a new pair of boots.
If I'm lucky, I get to pet a dog or two.
ok, maybe i need to take a look, sounds very interesting.NOVA recently had a show about UFOs that was interesting . . .
oh wait, that is a television kind of thing. lead us NOT into temptation please. thanks
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