Do you think Nikon Zf will get a mark II?

IMO, I think they should focus on producing more small AF lenses with proper aperture ring to match the retro design body of the ZF. Without a matching lens line up, any further retro body development becomes less appealing.

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Having entered the "old fart stage", I was attracted to the Zf with the manual controls and in spite of having to buy many big and heavy lenses (coming from M43), I decided to switch system. Since I hate switching lenses , I have ended up with the Zf and the 7II. For the most part, I am very happy. When it comes to the Zf, I love it with the additional grip. But I hate to crawl on the floor to find the little secondary micro SD that comes flying when you try to remove it. I am also not onboard with the Auto ISO/PASM/Dials situation that is discussed elsewhere.

I bet many of the Zf customers, like me, being attracted to a camera with manual dials, (and even used to change the aperture on the lens), will not give a hoot about extraordinary video! Wouldn't it be cool if, like somebody else suggested, to make the Zf II smaller and lighter by skipping heat sinks etc. that is now there catering to fancy video specs! Personally, I would prefer a videoless camera option!
It's been debunked a whole lot of times that including video doesn't affect the price of the camera.

The Zf isn't bigger because it has heatsinks... the ones in the Zf are rather small too. If you want to find a camera with bigger heatsinks specifically for video use, look at the Z6III.

Skipping heatsinks altogether in a Zf II is bound to make the camera hotter even during normal use. A mirrorless camera isn't a DSLR, it needs to power the sensor on continuously, and process the feed coming out of it quickly to have a usable live view. That demands processing power that is constantly being utilized by the camera unless you turn it off. That's why heatsinks are also important in a still only camera as long as it's a mirrorless one.
 
If they had put the 45Mp sensor in the original Zf I would already own it. Nikon also made a mistake with launching the Z6III before the Z7III. I want a smaller 45Mp body.
What makes you think there will be a Z7III at all? The Z8 is coming dangerously close to the price point a Z7III would be released at, and the usefulness of such a camera for Nikon as a business decision makes less and less sense by the day.
That’s fine, I want a smaller 45Mp body. Nikon should quit worrying about body overlap and give consumers what they want. They make more money on their lenses than bodies. Consumers want a mirrorless D500. Nikon:Nope. Consumers want a smaller 45Mp Expeed7 body. Nikon:Nope.
Nikon is saving me money.
I always say look at the industry for clues as the companies won't deviate too far from each other.

Companies respond to money. So if none of the full frame companies are moving on a "mirrorless D500", the question then becomes, are there actually that many customers who want a mirrorless D500? The closest we're probably going to get is an IBIS'ed Z50ii around $1.5k like the R7 and the a6700 from Canon and Sony. So we kinda have to adjust how we define "mirrorless D500".

And we flip that question on the Z7. Sony and more recently Panasonic have the a7cr and S1Rii respectively. So it's not outside the realm of possibility to hope for Nikon to match that in the $3k category in the future.
I think that other companies have their own version of a mirrorless "D500". For example, the a6700 or a6600 might be Sony's, and the R7 might be Canon's. But Canon and Sony also have other competitors that are similar to the Z50 II, such as the a6400 and the R10, which do inherit some of the AF from their higher-end cameras, so in a way, Nikon still has a gap, and that the competitors are doing equivalent models in their own view.

Now that being said, I think you are right in that all we may get is a Z50 II with IBIS and maybe a grip, but for some, that's maybe all they want . NIkon might surprise us and add a micro SD card slot too like they did for the Zf (in relation to the Zfc) so that is a possibility, but I'm thinking whatever it is, the price point will probably be $1500 so no new sensor probably, but I think for some, that would probably be fine (Since the D500 had only 20.9MP, and going to 24MP is somewhat marginal in terms of usefulness of the additional 3-4 MP (to most, the resolution bump would probably not be a huge selling point anyway as I doubt NIkon would do a 30MP camera... they would save that for a Z6 IV).

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The Zf just had a major Firmware update. It was extensive, so I would consider that at least a Mark 1 3/4.
 
Depending if it continues to sell as well as it does now. My nits to pick with the Zf are pretty minor. In part because I started with an F2 back in 1973 and cameras in those days only had grips if you mounted a motor drive that cost nearly 2 times the cost of the body and more than doubled the weight of the camera with that motor and battery pack. Needless to say I shot for a lot of years using cameras that didn't have grips. Learned that using both hands worked perfectly. However we didn't walk around everywhere with a camera on a selfie stick documenting everything we did.

Anyhow the Nit list. Darned near every item was taken care of with the 2.0 firmware update.

That said if Nikon had copied the front appearance of the F2 we would have one more function button and a button with a surrounding lever to work with. Who knows, that lever could have been used to choose the AF mode. Perhaps that button could have provided AF Area selections with the aid of a command dial. As for that additional function button I am sure we could all find a use for that.

Next Nit is they move that AF/AE lockbutton to the right and label it as AF ON. Get a bit tired of poking my thumb into my right eye due to the poor placement of that current button. Yes I do use Back Button Focus, all the time.

Final Nit is to add a Joystick to the back of the camera. With a bit of Engineering there is room for that feature.

I would also like to see two SD card slots even if it means that a slightly larger bulge to the body is required. Keep it subtle and it won't really harm the look of the camera.
 
Personally, I think the chance of an update is no better than 50/50. The Df never got an upgrade so I don’t know why the Zf would.

However, just look to the Zfc. The Zfc came out a little more than two years before the Zf. We’re coming up on 4 years soon. If the Zfc gets an upgrade the Zf will. So the next year or two will tell.
 
If they did could they shrink it as I think a smaller retro camera would sell even better.

I was amazed at just how big the ZF is when I first saw it in a local camera shop.
 
If they did could they shrink it as I think a smaller retro camera would sell even better.

I was amazed at just how big the ZF is when I first saw it in a local camera shop.
Size is not really bothering me, I will prefer if they make it lighter, they can definitely do it with 50 gram less.

With my 26 f2.8 it's pretty light, but with my 24 f1.8 it's starting to be at the limit of the "heavy" for me
 
If they did could they shrink it as I think a smaller retro camera would sell even better.

I was amazed at just how big the ZF is when I first saw it in a local camera shop.
Size is not really bothering me, I will prefer if they make it lighter, they can definitely do it with 50 gram less.

With my 26 f2.8 it's pretty light, but with my 24 f1.8 it's starting to be at the limit of the "heavy" for me
Is 50g even going to be noticeable to most people, and worth Nikon's time? I mean, sure they could, by removing the second card slot, or maybe removing IBIS, or making it less rugged / durable and using more plastics or weather sealing. But I don't think many people would want to give up those things. Honestly if you want lighter, get the Zfc. Almost the same thing but with a few less features (second card slot and no IBIS mainly).

Where I could see a Zf Ii going is a 45MP sensor so that Nikon could avoid doing a Z7 III. That might be a possibility.

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Where I could see a Zf Ii going is a 45MP sensor so that Nikon could avoid doing a Z7 III. That might be a possibility..
Z 7 II and Zf are almost exactly the same weight, so positioning a Zf II for landscape and other applications benefitting from very high resolution makes sense. Landscape is a more methodical process.

Personally, I'd like to see a Zf II with a higher resolution sensor than 45mp...
 
Where I could see a Zf Ii going is a 45MP sensor so that Nikon could avoid doing a Z7 III. That might be a possibility..
Z 7 II and Zf are almost exactly the same weight, so positioning a Zf II for landscape and other applications benefitting from very high resolution makes sense. Landscape is a more methodical process.

Personally, I'd like to see a Zf II with a higher resolution sensor than 45mp...
well, I don't know if they'd go beyond 45MP as I don't think the 60MP hype is really there anymore, at least as a wide-spread demand from the general photography community. But a Zf II with 45MP may sell better than a Z7 III with the same setup and it would allow Nikon to release a high-res faster camera without stepping on the toes of the Z8 because not everyone likes the Zf formfactor, and for those who don't like the Zf or Z8, well, sorry, tough luck then (if this was to be the case).
 
Disappointed that the lates Firmware upgrade did not add an extra and badly needed Fn button.
 
Disappointed that the lates Firmware upgrade did not add an extra and badly needed Fn button.
What other buttons were you hoping to customize that you can't alraedy?

the only thing I would like is to be able to swap the roles of the MENU and DISP buttons (so I can make the MENU button the playback button so it's more consistent with my Z8's layout. That I would like to do as I find myself accidentally bringing up the menu a lot meaning to show photos, but did swap the role of the DISP and PLAYBACK button at least, so it's "better".

Which actually brings me to one small thing that's annoying about Z cameras -- the button layout is not consistent. It is now say between the Z6 III and Z8 but Nikon could have made the Zf's button layout on the back the same as the others (Z8 and Z6 III for consistency, which I think is key considering the Zf is somewhat considered a higher-end camera like the Z6 III). I can understand in the Z5 / Z5 II and the older Z6/Z7 models where the buttons may have a different layout but the Zf is sort of in the middle and Nikon should have updated the button layout to match the higher-end cameras IMO.

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If they did could they shrink it as I think a smaller retro camera would sell even better.

I was amazed at just how big the ZF is when I first saw it in a local camera shop.
Size is not really bothering me, I will prefer if they make it lighter, they can definitely do it with 50 gram less.

With my 26 f2.8 it's pretty light, but with my 24 f1.8 it's starting to be at the limit of the "heavy" for me
Smaller and lighter is always great but the main problem is not with the camera. The camera alone is not too heavy indeed although the LCD screen is sticking out too much for the style IMO. The issue to me is the lens line-up. To make its retro style bodies a bigger success, Nikon needs to make full line of 2.8 small primes to pair with it. They should make some light weight but well built lenses (with weather seal) with aperture ring . f/2.8 is totally good enough for most EDC and travel purposes.
 
If they did could they shrink it as I think a smaller retro camera would sell even better.

I was amazed at just how big the ZF is when I first saw it in a local camera shop.
Size is not really bothering me, I will prefer if they make it lighter, they can definitely do it with 50 gram less.

With my 26 f2.8 it's pretty light, but with my 24 f1.8 it's starting to be at the limit of the "heavy" for me
Is 50g even going to be noticeable to most people, and worth Nikon's time? I mean, sure they could, by removing the second card slot, or maybe removing IBIS, or making it less rugged / durable and using more plastics or weather sealing. But I don't think many people would want to give up those things. Honestly if you want lighter, get the Zfc. Almost the same thing but with a few less features (second card slot and no IBIS mainly).

Where I could see a Zf Ii going is a 45MP sensor so that Nikon could avoid doing a Z7 III. That might be a possibility.
I can also see them doing a Zf II with a 45mp sensor so people can shoot APSC crop mode with the 26mm 2.8 without a big drop in quality. That would resolve some of the "Zf isn't compact enough to compete with APS-C" arguments. A FF sensor, retro body camera that can switch between a wide and normal FOV via a menu setting and be great for both landscapes and street would be broadly appealing, I think. I also think that would allow them to sell the original Zf and Zf II concurrently. Want better low light performance? Zf. Want to crop or print large? Zf II.
 
Disappointed that the lates Firmware upgrade did not add an extra and badly needed Fn button.
That will happen with the Very Firm Ware update, which some people call Hardware 2.0.
 
Is 50g even going to be noticeable to most people, and worth Nikon's time? I mean, sure they could, by removing the second card slot, or maybe removing IBIS, or making it less rugged / durable and using more plastics or weather sealing. But I don't think many people would want to give up those things.
I feel like Nikon needs to get back to the drawing board. Not having a grip is eating away too much internal real estate. Surely they could keep the aesthetic while incorporating an X-T5 esque grip. This would give more room on the third axis for battery space, letting them shrink down the width. The A7CII is almost 200 grams lighter (over 300g if I attach my grip) with the only real tradeoffs being a sh*tty EVF and 1 card slot. Shaving down the ginormous pentaprism hump could help.

Keep the same sensor, but make it smaller and 600 grams with a built in grip, give me 1 more fn button, and a U1 U2 switch (manual flash shooters out there surely know my pain). I would instantly take a loss on my Zf to upgrade to that.
 
Is 50g even going to be noticeable to most people, and worth Nikon's time? I mean, sure they could, by removing the second card slot, or maybe removing IBIS, or making it less rugged / durable and using more plastics or weather sealing. But I don't think many people would want to give up those things.
I feel like Nikon needs to get back to the drawing board. Not having a grip is eating away too much internal real estate. Surely they could keep the aesthetic while incorporating an X-T5 esque grip. This would give more room on the third axis for battery space, letting them shrink down the width. The A7CII is almost 200 grams lighter (over 300g if I attach my grip) with the only real tradeoffs being a sh*tty EVF and 1 card slot. Shaving down the ginormous pentaprism hump could help.

Keep the same sensor, but make it smaller and 600 grams with a built in grip, give me 1 more fn button, and a U1 U2 switch (manual flash shooters out there surely know my pain). I would instantly take a loss on my Zf to upgrade to that.
I disagree that they should downsize the Zf EVF, but I feel like they have the ingredients mostly on hand to make a very good rangefinder style camera. A smaller EVF (possibly similar to those in the APSC cameras) and dials along the top for ISO and SS (along with front and back dials and exposure comp) on a rectangular rangefinder style body could shape up to be very attractive and trendy while being lighter and more compact than the Zf. I think there's a market for both styles of retro camera. They'd need some more compact primes, for sure, though.
 
Is 50g even going to be noticeable to most people, and worth Nikon's time? I mean, sure they could, by removing the second card slot, or maybe removing IBIS, or making it less rugged / durable and using more plastics or weather sealing. But I don't think many people would want to give up those things.
I feel like Nikon needs to get back to the drawing board. Not having a grip is eating away too much internal real estate. Surely they could keep the aesthetic while incorporating an X-T5 esque grip. This would give more room on the third axis for battery space, letting them shrink down the width. The A7CII is almost 200 grams lighter (over 300g if I attach my grip) with the only real tradeoffs being a sh*tty EVF and 1 card slot. Shaving down the ginormous pentaprism hump could help.

Keep the same sensor, but make it smaller and 600 grams with a built in grip, give me 1 more fn button, and a U1 U2 switch (manual flash shooters out there surely know my pain). I would instantly take a loss on my Zf to upgrade to that.
I disagree that they should downsize the Zf EVF, but I feel like they have the ingredients mostly on hand to make a very good rangefinder style camera. A smaller EVF (possibly similar to those in the APSC cameras) and dials along the top for ISO and SS (along with front and back dials and exposure comp) on a rectangular rangefinder style body could shape up to be very attractive and trendy while being lighter and more compact than the Zf. I think there's a market for both styles of retro camera. They'd need some more compact primes, for sure, though.
Surely they could come up with a way to reduce the pentaprism hump while maintaining the current size and quality of the EVF. Look at the Zf's hump compared to the X-T5, A7RV, or even A1 II. It's so dang tall.
 

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