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Powershot V1 manufactured in Japan?
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M4Mobility
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That's actually somewhat of an important consideration for me in the purchase. I was considering a Fujifilm X100VI instead, which is made in China, and there are reports of the build-quality suffering somewhat (which is probably more to do with the fast production ramp-up to meet the crazy demand more than it's manufactured in China). In the end, the V1 meets my needs better, but the made in Japan part is nice.
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I'm also more comfortable with it being manufactured in Japan. (But I'm not sure if that's a rational thought or not.That's actually somewhat of an important consideration for me in the purchase. I was considering a Fujifilm X100VI instead, which is made in China, and there are reports of the build-quality suffering somewhat (which is probably more to do with the fast production ramp-up to meet the crazy demand more than it's manufactured in China). In the end, the V1 meets my needs better, but the made in Japan part is nice.
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B&H shows my order as "new order", which was "backlog" previously... I ordered it maybe a few days ago? B&H's initial shipment may be sufficient for launch. Will update obviously as we get closer to launch date, it may shift back to backordered.That's actually somewhat of an important consideration for me in the purchase. I was considering a Fujifilm X100VI instead, which is made in China, and there are reports of the build-quality suffering somewhat (which is probably more to do with the fast production ramp-up to meet the crazy demand more than it's manufactured in China). In the end, the V1 meets my needs better, but the made in Japan part is nice.
I ordered from a regional camera chain located in the Mid-South. Hoping they have enough initial shipment to cover my order.B&H shows my order as "new order", which was "backlog" previously... I ordered it maybe a few days ago? B&H's initial shipment may be sufficient for launch. Will update obviously as we get closer to launch date, it may shift back to backordered.That's actually somewhat of an important consideration for me in the purchase. I was considering a Fujifilm X100VI instead, which is made in China, and there are reports of the build-quality suffering somewhat (which is probably more to do with the fast production ramp-up to meet the crazy demand more than it's manufactured in China). In the end, the V1 meets my needs better, but the made in Japan part is nice.
Jonny N
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I ordered mine on the day of the US announcement and my order also shows “New Order”. Getting excited!B&H shows my order as "new order", which was "backlog" previously... I ordered it maybe a few days ago? B&H's initial shipment may be sufficient for launch. Will update obviously as we get closer to launch date, it may shift back to backordered.That's actually somewhat of an important consideration for me in the purchase. I was considering a Fujifilm X100VI instead, which is made in China, and there are reports of the build-quality suffering somewhat (which is probably more to do with the fast production ramp-up to meet the crazy demand more than it's manufactured in China). In the end, the V1 meets my needs better, but the made in Japan part is nice.
So what role will the V1 serve? Lightweight travel camera, and leave the mirrorless at home?B&H shows my order as "new order", which was "backlog" previously... I ordered it maybe a few days ago? B&H's initial shipment may be sufficient for launch. Will update obviously as we get closer to launch date, it may shift back to backordered.That's actually somewhat of an important consideration for me in the purchase. I was considering a Fujifilm X100VI instead, which is made in China, and there are reports of the build-quality suffering somewhat (which is probably more to do with the fast production ramp-up to meet the crazy demand more than it's manufactured in China). In the end, the V1 meets my needs better, but the made in Japan part is nice.
Yes, that's one. Or shoot video for any purpose rather than your phone, for a big step up in quality - picture and sound.So what role will the V1 serve? Lightweight travel camera, and leave the mirrorless at home?B&H shows my order as "new order", which was "backlog" previously... I ordered it maybe a few days ago? B&H's initial shipment may be sufficient for launch. Will update obviously as we get closer to launch date, it may shift back to backordered.That's actually somewhat of an important consideration for me in the purchase. I was considering a Fujifilm X100VI instead, which is made in China, and there are reports of the build-quality suffering somewhat (which is probably more to do with the fast production ramp-up to meet the crazy demand more than it's manufactured in China). In the end, the V1 meets my needs better, but the made in Japan part is nice.
Jonny N
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Every day carry with a focal length that forces me to consider composition much more than my usual sports/activity telephoto set-up.
Ideally it would be Ricoh GR in size but the LCD is difficult to read with my 55yo eyes which is a problem when the III X struggles to focus on subjects my 2012 E-M5 would’ve nailed.
And a faster lens would have been very welcome but understand the physical constraints here.
Ideally it would be Ricoh GR in size but the LCD is difficult to read with my 55yo eyes which is a problem when the III X struggles to focus on subjects my 2012 E-M5 would’ve nailed.
And a faster lens would have been very welcome but understand the physical constraints here.
I hope that's the case. I had a G7XMiii, and the photo/video quality was not much of a jump over my iPhone 15 ProMax. But this sensor is about twice the size....Yes, that's one. Or shoot video for any purpose rather than your phone, for a big step up in quality - picture and sound.So what role will the V1 serve? Lightweight travel camera, and leave the mirrorless at home?B&H shows my order as "new order", which was "backlog" previously... I ordered it maybe a few days ago? B&H's initial shipment may be sufficient for launch. Will update obviously as we get closer to launch date, it may shift back to backordered.That's actually somewhat of an important consideration for me in the purchase. I was considering a Fujifilm X100VI instead, which is made in China, and there are reports of the build-quality suffering somewhat (which is probably more to do with the fast production ramp-up to meet the crazy demand more than it's manufactured in China). In the end, the V1 meets my needs better, but the made in Japan part is nice.
And I'm 64. So this camera has appeal beyond the Gen Z vlogger target group.
Jonny N
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I have the 14 Pro Max and while it’s great to have it on you all the time, I often find the rendering to be overly processed with an HDR-y effect. An APSC or m43 sensor in a regular camera often provides a more pleasing image for my taste.I hope that's the case. I had a G7XMiii, and the photo/video quality was not much of a jump over my iPhone 15 ProMax. But this sensor is about twice the size....Yes, that's one. Or shoot video for any purpose rather than your phone, for a big step up in quality - picture and sound.So what role will the V1 serve? Lightweight travel camera, and leave the mirrorless at home?B&H shows my order as "new order", which was "backlog" previously... I ordered it maybe a few days ago? B&H's initial shipment may be sufficient for launch. Will update obviously as we get closer to launch date, it may shift back to backordered.That's actually somewhat of an important consideration for me in the purchase. I was considering a Fujifilm X100VI instead, which is made in China, and there are reports of the build-quality suffering somewhat (which is probably more to do with the fast production ramp-up to meet the crazy demand more than it's manufactured in China). In the end, the V1 meets my needs better, but the made in Japan part is nice.
Having just used a Ricoh GR IIIX for a month, I am hoping the V1 will have a not too dissimilar rendering with much better autofocus.
I’ve not used the G7X III though I have shot with the Panny ZS200 (fun but a soft lens at the tele end) and the Sony RX100 III and VI (solid performers but too small for my fat fingers). I’ve shot µ4/3 since the E-PL1 in 2011 and am expecting the V1 to be a decent step up in quality over an iPhone.
Fat fingers crossed!
I do not understand how any phone could produce better video than even the G7x iii, which I have used. The iphones have no aperture, so no control over dof. They have no ND filters also, so in bright light you have high shutter speeds that combined with frame rates of 24 fps or 30 fps lead to choppy motion. You cannot zoom with any phone and you have much fewer focal lenths compared to the zoom on the Canon camera.Most phones cannot even attain constant frame rates, again, leading to motion artifacts. There is nothing the phones can do for video that the G7x iii cannot do; there is plenty the G7x iii can do that phones cannot. And, finally, Canon colors are superior.I hope that's the case. I had a G7XMiii, and the photo/video quality was not much of a jump over my iPhone 15 ProMax. But this sensor is about twice the size....Yes, that's one. Or shoot video for any purpose rather than your phone, for a big step up in quality - picture and sound.So what role will the V1 serve? Lightweight travel camera, and leave the mirrorless at home?B&H shows my order as "new order", which was "backlog" previously... I ordered it maybe a few days ago? B&H's initial shipment may be sufficient for launch. Will update obviously as we get closer to launch date, it may shift back to backordered.That's actually somewhat of an important consideration for me in the purchase. I was considering a Fujifilm X100VI instead, which is made in China, and there are reports of the build-quality suffering somewhat (which is probably more to do with the fast production ramp-up to meet the crazy demand more than it's manufactured in China). In the end, the V1 meets my needs better, but the made in Japan part is nice.
I'm talking specifically about the iPhone 15 pro max, but as a lightweight travel cam, it is pretty amazing and has a lot going for it. First, its sensor-shift image stabilization is amazingly good, and better than the G7xiii for video and apparently for photos as well. It has 3 sharp prime lenses, the 13mm ultra wide angle/macro lens, the 24mm main lens, and the 120mm telephoto lens, and the computational photography does an amazing job of anywhere in-between. Try to match that focal length range in compact zoom lens, and considering the sharpness of the prime lenses you really can't. And think of the size/weight of a mirrorless set-up to match. Yes it doing its other tricks with computational photography, but what it does it does very well, including low light performance and HDR. It's got a 48 megapixel sensor, and although it's a quad-pixel hybrid sensor, it captures a surprising amount of detail. In cinematic mode (which works in video too) its depth-of-field simulation is amazing - it looks like full frame or at least APS-C. It also takes 3D and panoramic photos, which when viewed on the Vision Pro headset make you feel like you've been transported to the place where the photo was taken. (Yes, the Vision Pro is expensive, but not when compared to mirrorless cameras & lenses).I do not understand how any phone could produce better video than even the G7x iii, which I have used. The iphones have no aperture, so no control over dof. They have no ND filters also, so in bright light you have high shutter speeds that combined with frame rates of 24 fps or 30 fps lead to choppy motion. You cannot zoom with any phone and you have much fewer focal lenths compared to the zoom on the Canon camera.Most phones cannot even attain constant frame rates, again, leading to motion artifacts. There is nothing the phones can do for video that the G7x iii cannot do; there is plenty the G7x iii can do that phones cannot. And, finally, Canon colors are superior.I hope that's the case. I had a G7XMiii, and the photo/video quality was not much of a jump over my iPhone 15 ProMax. But this sensor is about twice the size....Yes, that's one. Or shoot video for any purpose rather than your phone, for a big step up in quality - picture and sound.So what role will the V1 serve? Lightweight travel camera, and leave the mirrorless at home?B&H shows my order as "new order", which was "backlog" previously... I ordered it maybe a few days ago? B&H's initial shipment may be sufficient for launch. Will update obviously as we get closer to launch date, it may shift back to backordered.That's actually somewhat of an important consideration for me in the purchase. I was considering a Fujifilm X100VI instead, which is made in China, and there are reports of the build-quality suffering somewhat (which is probably more to do with the fast production ramp-up to meet the crazy demand more than it's manufactured in China). In the end, the V1 meets my needs better, but the made in Japan part is nice.
It's so good that 1" sensor camera photos compare to it as just so-so, and I think Canon is taking the right course with the larger sensor in the V1 to try to compete in image quality. I agree that Canon colors are better and more pleasing.
But when you take a detailed look at it as a camera, and not just "yeah but it's just a cell phone camera," it's got a lot going for it. I like to travel light and every time I go on a trip, I have to debate whether or not adding another camera in addition to the iPhone is worth the size/weight. In the end, if I take another camera, it's really only because I want the experience of shooting and handling a more traditional camera.
That's very useful information. But it does ignore a key aspect of video - motion. The inability to keep the shutter speed down to achieve appropriate motion blur while not overexposing is a major issue. Am I ignoring something about frame rates and shutter speed? Also number of pixels above 8 megapixels is irrelevant for video unless there is oversampling (which the V1 does). Faking shallow dof effects (!) cannot possibly equal real ones.I'm talking specifically about the iPhone 15 pro max, but as a lightweight travel cam, it is pretty amazing and has a lot going for it. First, its sensor-shift image stabilization is amazingly good, and better than the G7xiii for video and apparently for photos as well. It has 3 sharp prime lenses, the 13mm ultra wide angle/macro lens, the 24mm main lens, and the 120mm telephoto lens, and the computational photography does an amazing job of anywhere in-between. Try to match that focal length range in compact zoom lens, and considering the sharpness of the prime lenses you really can't. And think of the size/weight of a mirrorless set-up to match. Yes it doing its other tricks with computational photography, but what it does it does very well, including low light performance and HDR. It's got a 48 megapixel sensor, and although it's a quad-pixel hybrid sensor, it captures a surprising amount of detail. In cinematic mode (which works in video too) its depth-of-field simulation is amazing - it looks like full frame or at least APS-C. It also takes 3D and panoramic photos, which when viewed on the Vision Pro headset make you feel like you've been transported to the place where the photo was taken. (Yes, the Vision Pro is expensive, but not when compared to mirrorless cameras & lenses).I do not understand how any phone could produce better video than even the G7x iii, which I have used. The iphones have no aperture, so no control over dof. They have no ND filters also, so in bright light you have high shutter speeds that combined with frame rates of 24 fps or 30 fps lead to choppy motion. You cannot zoom with any phone and you have much fewer focal lenths compared to the zoom on the Canon camera.Most phones cannot even attain constant frame rates, again, leading to motion artifacts. There is nothing the phones can do for video that the G7x iii cannot do; there is plenty the G7x iii can do that phones cannot. And, finally, Canon colors are superior.I hope that's the case. I had a G7XMiii, and the photo/video quality was not much of a jump over my iPhone 15 ProMax. But this sensor is about twice the size....Yes, that's one. Or shoot video for any purpose rather than your phone, for a big step up in quality - picture and sound.So what role will the V1 serve? Lightweight travel camera, and leave the mirrorless at home?B&H shows my order as "new order", which was "backlog" previously... I ordered it maybe a few days ago? B&H's initial shipment may be sufficient for launch. Will update obviously as we get closer to launch date, it may shift back to backordered.That's actually somewhat of an important consideration for me in the purchase. I was considering a Fujifilm X100VI instead, which is made in China, and there are reports of the build-quality suffering somewhat (which is probably more to do with the fast production ramp-up to meet the crazy demand more than it's manufactured in China). In the end, the V1 meets my needs better, but the made in Japan part is nice.
It's so good that 1" sensor camera photos compare to it as just so-so, and I think Canon is taking the right course with the larger sensor in the V1 to try to compete in image quality. I agree that Canon colors are better and more pleasing.
But when you take a detailed look at it as a camera, and not just "yeah but it's just a cell phone camera," it's got a lot going for it. I like to travel light and every time I go on a trip, I have to debate whether or not adding another camera in addition to the iPhone is worth the size/weight. In the end, if I take another camera, it's really only because I want the experience of shooting and handling a more traditional camera.
It is impressive what the most expensive iPhone can do, just it cannot equal the video quality or versatility of most compact cameras - video quality has many dimensions.
That's very useful information. But it does ignore a key aspect of video - motion. The inability to keep the shutter speed down to achieve appropriate motion blur while not overexposing is a major issue. Am I ignoring something about frame rates and shutter speed? Also number of pixels above 8 megapixels is irrelevant for video unless there is oversampling (which the V1 does). Faking shallow dof effects (!) cannot possibly equal real ones.I'm talking specifically about the iPhone 15 pro max, but as a lightweight travel cam, it is pretty amazing and has a lot going for it. First, its sensor-shift image stabilization is amazingly good, and better than the G7xiii for video and apparently for photos as well. It has 3 sharp prime lenses, the 13mm ultra wide angle/macro lens, the 24mm main lens, and the 120mm telephoto lens, and the computational photography does an amazing job of anywhere in-between. Try to match that focal length range in compact zoom lens, and considering the sharpness of the prime lenses you really can't. And think of the size/weight of a mirrorless set-up to match. Yes it doing its other tricks with computational photography, but what it does it does very well, including low light performance and HDR. It's got a 48 megapixel sensor, and although it's a quad-pixel hybrid sensor, it captures a surprising amount of detail. In cinematic mode (which works in video too) its depth-of-field simulation is amazing - it looks like full frame or at least APS-C. It also takes 3D and panoramic photos, which when viewed on the Vision Pro headset make you feel like you've been transported to the place where the photo was taken. (Yes, the Vision Pro is expensive, but not when compared to mirrorless cameras & lenses).I do not understand how any phone could produce better video than even the G7x iii, which I have used. The iphones have no aperture, so no control over dof. They have no ND filters also, so in bright light you have high shutter speeds that combined with frame rates of 24 fps or 30 fps lead to choppy motion. You cannot zoom with any phone and you have much fewer focal lenths compared to the zoom on the Canon camera.Most phones cannot even attain constant frame rates, again, leading to motion artifacts. There is nothing the phones can do for video that the G7x iii cannot do; there is plenty the G7x iii can do that phones cannot. And, finally, Canon colors are superior.I hope that's the case. I had a G7XMiii, and the photo/video quality was not much of a jump over my iPhone 15 ProMax. But this sensor is about twice the size....Yes, that's one. Or shoot video for any purpose rather than your phone, for a big step up in quality - picture and sound.So what role will the V1 serve? Lightweight travel camera, and leave the mirrorless at home?B&H shows my order as "new order", which was "backlog" previously... I ordered it maybe a few days ago? B&H's initial shipment may be sufficient for launch. Will update obviously as we get closer to launch date, it may shift back to backordered.That's actually somewhat of an important consideration for me in the purchase. I was considering a Fujifilm X100VI instead, which is made in China, and there are reports of the build-quality suffering somewhat (which is probably more to do with the fast production ramp-up to meet the crazy demand more than it's manufactured in China). In the end, the V1 meets my needs better, but the made in Japan part is nice.
It's so good that 1" sensor camera photos compare to it as just so-so, and I think Canon is taking the right course with the larger sensor in the V1 to try to compete in image quality. I agree that Canon colors are better and more pleasing.
But when you take a detailed look at it as a camera, and not just "yeah but it's just a cell phone camera," it's got a lot going for it. I like to travel light and every time I go on a trip, I have to debate whether or not adding another camera in addition to the iPhone is worth the size/weight. In the end, if I take another camera, it's really only because I want the experience of shooting and handling a more traditional camera.
It is impressive what the most expensive iPhone can do, just it cannot equal the video quality or versatility of most compact cameras - video quality has many dimensions.
There are apps like Filmic Pro for the iPhone that give you more control on shutter speed and other video settings, and you can use external clip-on ND filters with the iPhone, but I agree that built-in ND filters are an advantage for the V1 over the iPhone and other video-centric cameras, even mirrorless ones like the Sony ZV-E10ii.
Jonny N
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The video specs look great, but I think lots of folks are really waiting on a compact camera with great autofocus and a large sensor for stills that we can carry when we don't want to drag around a full-on mirrorless set-up.
And many of us hoping for such a camera are properly middle aged!
I think you're spot-on. And it's good to see a resurgence of point & shoots, with the higher end cameras generating the most demand.
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