I do have a camera with a larger sensor with an EVF , a bunch of lenses and some bells and whistles I will never use to compliment my compact camera. I have never photographed with a phone or ever owned a phone so I can't comment on phone photography beyond noting that phones are LED only and I don't want or need one.
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M4Mobility
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I like that.
It' is impossible to make a camera that is liked by everyone.
They do.
Like other cameras with this system, it's nowhere near as effective as a lens cap.
Yeah of course. It'd be "dumb" to want a lens cap for a £1000 travel camera. Those little flimsy curtains that never fold back when taking in and out of a pocket, and never break, are just perfect.
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I have had more than 10 cameras with that kind of automatic lens protection and never had a problem with any of them. I think I will take another chance.
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I can understand on cheaper (and smaller) point and shoots but not so much on this - which is an up market compact camera.I have had more than 10 cameras with that kind of automatic lens protection and never had a problem with any of them. I think I will take a chance with one more.
It's probably not a hill to die on but, again, when trying to think about this camera from a practical perspective, its main strength is portability and versatility. It's not a studio camera. You're going to be using in different environments, pulling it in and out of pockets. That's how dirt/dust gets in the lens, the curtains catch and so on. Accidentally turning the camera on when in a pocket extends the lens, opens the curtains, and potentially scratches the lens.
Ofc you didn't say this but I'm amazed anyone could call it "dumb" to at least query this decision. My preference would be for a lens cap on this sort of camera, like the G1Xiii. An acceptable workaround would be a third party attachment so, as I say, it's not a major issue.
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G5 x II was not much cheaper.I can understand on cheaper (and smaller) point and shoots but not so much on this - which is an up market compact camera.I have had more than 10 cameras with that kind of automatic lens protection and never had a problem with any of them. I think I will take a chance with one more.
It's probably not a hill to die on but, again, when trying to think about this camera from a practical perspective, its main strength is portability and versatility. It's not a studio camera. You're going to be using in different environments, pulling it in and out of pockets. That's how dirt/dust gets in the lens, the curtains catch and so on. Accidentally turning the camera on when in a pocket extends the lens, opens the curtains, and potentially scratches the lens.
Ofc you didn't say this but I'm amazed anyone could call it "dumb" to at least query this decision. My preference would be for a lens cap on this sort of camera, like the G1Xiii. An acceptable workaround would be a third party attachment so, as I say, it's not a major issue.
Btw. "Kaiser" makes push-on lens caps in many different sizes. Maybe one will fit this camera.
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Yeah, but the top of the line G1Xiii (I presume V1 = G1 in the V line?) was the most expensive and did have a lens cap.G5 x II was not much cheaper.I can understand on cheaper (and smaller) point and shoots but not so much on this - which is an up market compact camera.I have had more than 10 cameras with that kind of automatic lens protection and never had a problem with any of them. I think I will take a chance with one more.
It's probably not a hill to die on but, again, when trying to think about this camera from a practical perspective, its main strength is portability and versatility. It's not a studio camera. You're going to be using in different environments, pulling it in and out of pockets. That's how dirt/dust gets in the lens, the curtains catch and so on. Accidentally turning the camera on when in a pocket extends the lens, opens the curtains, and potentially scratches the lens.
Ofc you didn't say this but I'm amazed anyone could call it "dumb" to at least query this decision. My preference would be for a lens cap on this sort of camera, like the G1Xiii. An acceptable workaround would be a third party attachment so, as I say, it's not a major issue.
Btw. "Kaiser" makes push-on lens caps in many different sizes. Maybe one will fit this camera.
I say this having had this kind of problem with the G7Xiii (and now G5Xii) as a pocket camera. I think it's probably fine as the third party option is there for those who want it.
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I would certainly use the camera if I had acquired it somehow, but I certainly would not buy it, especially at the $900.00 + tax price tag. I just don't believe it's a good value at that price. I suppose if i was all freaked out because of the recent scare that canon was killing power shot compacts , it might influence my rational thinking and I may consider it a bargain as a collector of relic powershots.
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And there was also a lot of complains about that lens cap.Yeah, but the top of the line G1Xiii (I presume V1 = G1 in the V line?) was the most expensive and did have a lens cap.G5 x II was not much cheaper.I can understand on cheaper (and smaller) point and shoots but not so much on this - which is an up market compact camera.I have had more than 10 cameras with that kind of automatic lens protection and never had a problem with any of them. I think I will take a chance with one more.
It's probably not a hill to die on but, again, when trying to think about this camera from a practical perspective, its main strength is portability and versatility. It's not a studio camera. You're going to be using in different environments, pulling it in and out of pockets. That's how dirt/dust gets in the lens, the curtains catch and so on. Accidentally turning the camera on when in a pocket extends the lens, opens the curtains, and potentially scratches the lens.
Ofc you didn't say this but I'm amazed anyone could call it "dumb" to at least query this decision. My preference would be for a lens cap on this sort of camera, like the G1Xiii. An acceptable workaround would be a third party attachment so, as I say, it's not a major issue.
Btw. "Kaiser" makes push-on lens caps in many different sizes. Maybe one will fit this camera.
M4Mobility
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It's up to you if you want to buy it or not.
I did not buy the G1 X Mark III because of the EVF hump. I waited (forever) for a version without an EVF, but that never happened. But now the V1 sounds perfect for me. The only thing I miss is a tilt screen (like the G7 X III).
I have been using small cameras with folding lens curtains and no lens cap for over ten years (Sony RX100's, Canon G's). I have never had an issue. Could you cite even one instance where something went wrong that a lens cap would have solved? Not, of course, that that one instance would represent the actual importance of the problem.
Not needing a lens cap is one of the nice features of these cameras - caps get lost, they are an added annoying step in shooting (take them off), and they can come off in some instances when the lens is actually stressed.
Btw, my father shot with a rangefinder film camera, and took lots of shots with the cap on. I am not a fan of lens caps.
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Although my sx230 is always in a protective case, I managed to accidentally bend one of the protective blades in a bike fall. It became jammed but I was able to straighten the bent blade out with an xacto blade and a very small set needle nose pliers. I think this may be quite common with people that actually use the camera a lot.
Thanks Gordon; sincerely appreciated.
Canon has removed the astrophotography features from the SCN mode.
No more:
Star Portrait
Star Nightscape
Star Trails
Star Time-Lapse Movie
No more:
Star Portrait
Star Nightscape
Star Trails
Star Time-Lapse Movie
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M4Mobility
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WHAT? OMG! I have to cancel my pre-order right away. 
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The sarcasm is baffling.WHAT? OMG! I have to cancel my pre-order right away.
Once again, this is an all-in-one camera. Fewer features = bad.
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Fewer? That depends on what you compare to.The sarcasm is baffling.WHAT? OMG! I have to cancel my pre-order right away.
Once again, this is an all-in-one camera. Fewer features = bad.
Also many added features = good.
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Yes, fewer. By not including the astro SCN modes, Canon has given the V1 fewer desirable features than it could've reasonably had as an all-in-one camera.Fewer? That depends on what you compare to.The sarcasm is baffling.WHAT? OMG! I have to cancel my pre-order right away.
Once again, this is an all-in-one camera. Fewer features = bad.
The comparison is obvious btw: Powershot cameras that had these features.
Whatever the reason, removing auto features that existed on the G7Xiii and G5xii screams "crppl hammer".
Again, looking at this as a social media machine, the ability to have a readymade star trail JPEG or 4K astro timelapse is a great option re: time/effort vs. result.
AFAIK, the above is not something a smartphone can do. The auto astro SCN modes were also much quicker and easier than creating a timelapse or star trail photo through post processing. It's the sort of feature a beginner really appreciates. It also hurts the V1 as a travel and holiday camera where the option is either phone or phone + small/pocket camera. People travel to see the northern lights, or may want to take an opportunistic photo or video of a dark sky scene. Those auto astro modes were ideal for letting the camera take care of those scenarios (far harder to nail focus and everything else on a small camera without an EVF or manual focus ring).
It may be a small feature but it's still worth mentioning. Why exclude it?
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