Would you take an external mic for family travel?

I actually did read your post.

Should that prevent me from mentioning other approaches? Whether you agree or not?

I think the original poster is fully capable of drawing his own conclusions based on what he finds usable for his personal needs and requirements.

Not only yours or mine.

Let’s give the guy a chance to make his own, best informed choices. For all we know, he may end up with HIS perfect choice, that none of us expected. That would be a perfectly good outcome!

My aim was to show different options, that maybe should not be overlooked - naming examples, that can be looked up, if the original poster was not aware of their existence. Or their benefits as well as limitations.

I believe in informed choice based on a wide set of options. Not prescribed choices.

winnegehetoch said:

I actually did read your post.

Should that prevent me from mentioning other approaches? Whether you agree or not?

I think the original poster is fully capable of drawing his own conclusions based on what he finds usable for his personal needs and requirements.

Not only yours or mine.

Let’s give the guy a chance to make his own, best informed choices. For all we know, he may end up with HIS perfect choice, that none of us expected. That would be a perfectly good outcome!

My aim was to show different options, that maybe should not be overlooked - naming examples, that can be looked up, if the original poster was not aware of their existence. Or their benefits as well as limitations.

I believe in informed choice based on a wide set of options. Not prescribed choices.

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You can feel free to ignore the OP's needs and waste your and his time. You could have suggested why what I proposed was inferior or the posted example had shortcomings - engage. That might have been useful, given your knowledge and the preferences of the OP. The OP clearly stated what he did not want and what he needed.

If you just wanted to state irrelevant options, you forgot boom mics or ORTF rigs or binaural head mics. Or spaced omnis. Blumlein configuration?There are lots of irrelevant audio micing options you skipped. Also how about 1bit DSD recording? A discussion comparing dynamic mics to condenser mics? Or large versus small diaphragms? Mic parabolic reflectors? Mics mounted in eyeglasses? Mid-side versus figure-8 mics?

Or just comment on the Sony digital mics the OP is interested in, to actually help. Why are they not the best option?

Or actually post videos you made using your cumbersome audio recording methods to demonstrate all that actually results in superior audio. Where are those examples?

Frankly I decide, what I write! Not you!

winnegehetoch said:

Frankly I decide, what I write! Not you!

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Feel free. Just trying to help you understand.

Meanwhile, where are your examples using your audio recording techniques? I guess you also decided not to show them. Why?

bing041 said:

winnegehetoch said:

Frankly I decide, what I write! Not you!

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Feel free. Just trying to help you understand.

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Really?

bing041 said:

Meanwhile, where are your examples using your audio recording techniques? I guess you also decided not to show them. Why?

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Maybe reread my earlier post on the benefits of using IEEE 32-bit float recording during travel. What is it, you don”t understand?

Ask away. Start a new thread, if it’s important to you.

I thought trying to give the original poster diverse examples and options was important.

Don’t you agree?

winnegehetoch said:

bing041 said:

winnegehetoch said:

Frankly I decide, what I write! Not you!

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Feel free. Just trying to help you understand.

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Really?

winnegehetoch said:

Meanwhile, where are your examples using your audio recording techniques? I guess you also decided not to show them. Why?

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Maybe reread my earlier post on the benefits of using IEEE 32-bit float recording during travel. What is it, you don”t understand?

Ask away. Start a new thread, if it’s important to you.

I thought trying to give the original poster diverse examples and options was important.

Don’t you agree?

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I am well aware of 32-bit float options and their benefits, and their relevance to hands-free and maybe even worry-free recording. However, to obtain them requires equipment that the OP clearly does not want, since they require external recorders - bulky equipment - TWO DJI mic 2's with deadcats! Really? Or some bulky external stereo recorder and mic set.

You simply have not paid attention to the important needs of the poster and went on and on about irrelevant options. So, no, I don't agree that providing completely irrelevant options (you suggested more than 32-bit float recorders) and ignoring what others post is important. To the contrary, it wastes time.

If you wanted to just discuss ALL options for recording audio with video YOU should have started a new thread. That might be useful, and you clearly have a lot of knowledge (just do not assume you have MORE knowledge than others - could be true, or not). But, honoring the request of an OP is etiquette one.

We are talking about vacation videos, keeping things simple to enjoy vacations. The OP has said, no wires, no external add-ons. Read OP's posts, again. And again. See what he wants? Even a camera with built-in 32-bit float reorders won't do, because of the need for wind protection, which is actually far more important. Cannot really avoid external mics.

And you keep refusing to add something that is useful given the posts - your understanding of any shortcomings of the recommended Sony ECM M1, which satisfies flexibility in FOV, and avoids wires and bulk. What is wrong with that? Not even clear the properties of the dji mics - not the recorders - are any better in SN ratio or frequency response or SPL immunity than the Sony ECM M1 (could be, but you do not tell us).

Look, I am sure you and I would agree on lots of issues about recording audio. We both suggest no Bluetooth and no shotgun mic.

I am not doubting your expertise, just amazed how you seem to not understand what the OP wants and needs - compactness, simplicity. Given that, what do you think is wrong with the Sony ECM M1 digital mic as the best (not perfect) solution? There is even an audio/video example (unlike any from your suggestions) of it that you can criticize.

Let's agree to disagree. You've had your say.

I'll still decide, what I write. Not you. Got that?