Nikon Z5 on the way - anything I need to know?

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Hi folks

I'm finally making the jump from DSLR to mirrorless (610 -> 750 -> Z5) and my Z5 should be arriving by next weekend. Quite excited!

Just wondering if there's any 'setting you really must change' type knowledge out there I should be aware of?

Also - is the latest firmware a significant improvement from the original? Anything of note changed or added?
 
Hi folks

I'm finally making the jump from DSLR to mirrorless (610 -> 750 -> Z5) and my Z5 should be arriving by next weekend. Quite excited!

Just wondering if there's any 'setting you really must change' type knowledge out there I should be aware of?

Also - is the latest firmware a significant improvement from the original? Anything of note changed
The Z5ii is due to be released in the near future. Likely to be rather more up to date on a number of counts.
 
The latest Z5 firmware is quite good, and it improves the focusing abilities to a respectable level. The Z5 was my entry to mirrorless and I loved it, especially for the price! Enjoy your new camera - there are a zillion ways to set it up but only one way you’ll like. Experiment!
 
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Hi folks

I'm finally making the jump from DSLR to mirrorless (610 -> 750 -> Z5) and my Z5 should be arriving by next weekend. Quite excited!

Just wondering if there's any 'setting you really must change' type knowledge out there I should be aware of?

Also - is the latest firmware a significant improvement from the original? Anything of note changed
The Z5ii is due to be released in the near future. Likely to be rather more up to date on a number of counts.
I suspect that's why I'm able to afford this one - getting it for £615 brand new!

So happy enough with the slightly older model, as I imagine the II would be out of my price range for a while :)
 
The latest Z5 firmware is quite good, and it improves the focusing abilities to a respectable level. The Z5 was my entry to mirrorless and I loved it, especially for the price! Enjoy your new camera - there are a zillion ways to set it up but only one way you’ll like. Experiment!
Ah, that sounds good - I'd heard the focussing could be a little 'funny' on the Z5 - did you find it improved low light focus, or was it mainly just subject detection type stuff? :)
 
Hi folks

I'm finally making the jump from DSLR to mirrorless (610 -> 750 -> Z5) and my Z5 should be arriving by next weekend. Quite excited!

Just wondering if there's any 'setting you really must change' type knowledge out there I should be aware of?

Also - is the latest firmware a significant improvement from the original? Anything of note changed or added?
 
Hi folks

I'm finally making the jump from DSLR to mirrorless (610 -> 750 -> Z5) and my Z5 should be arriving by next weekend. Quite excited!

Just wondering if there's any 'setting you really must change' type knowledge out there I should be aware of?

Also - is the latest firmware a significant improvement from the original? Anything of note changed or added?
Thom Hogan's eBook on the Z5 tells you just about everything you want to know and probably a lot more. I found it instrumental in learning all the features of the camera with more in depth discussion than the manual.

Steve Perry's (Backcountry Gallery) Nikon Z AF book is also very helpful in understanding the how the A autofocus system works. The book covers the features of all the Z cameras so it covers features that the Z5 doesn't have, but it is still very useful. One of the big differences in moving from the DSLR to Z series is how the focus system works.

Many of the settings will have options similar to the D610 and D750 but there are many more settings applicable to the EVF, focus, and some other features that you will have to learn. Thom's book especially covers all of these. Many things you may want to change based on personal preference. It took me about 3 months with the camera to configure the buttons, i Menu, and My Menu, U1, U2, and U3, and other settings to what worked best for me.

When I got my Z5 4 years ago the first thing I did was set it up as close to my D7100 as possible as a starting point.

The firmware updates did improve the camera from the original. Depending on where you obtained yours from and when it was manufactured it may already have the latest firmware, but do check to be sure.

I'm planning on getting a Z6III later this year but I still really enjoy using my Z5 and will keep using it. For about 90% of what I photograph the Z5 is just fine. For the other 10% (mostly very fast action and very low light) I can make do with it.

Enjoy your new camera.
 
Hi folks

I'm finally making the jump from DSLR to mirrorless (610 -> 750 -> Z5) and my Z5 should be arriving by next weekend. Quite excited!

Just wondering if there's any 'setting you really must change' type knowledge out there I should be aware of?

Also - is the latest firmware a significant improvement from the original? Anything of note changed or added?
I hate to say this....but cancel the Z5.

The Z5II is coming very soon and will have the FAR superior AF module along with many other advantages. Not only will it be a better camera, it also crush the resale value of the old Z5.

Z5 was okay, but the AF was well behind. Z bodies have evolved into amazing cameras and the Z5II will be part of that very good company.

If you can't afford the new version it would probably be worth saving up for.

Robert

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The latest Z5 firmware is quite good, and it improves the focusing abilities to a respectable level. The Z5 was my entry to mirrorless and I loved it, especially for the price! Enjoy your new camera - there are a zillion ways to set it up but only one way you’ll like. Experiment!
Ah, that sounds good - I'd heard the focussing could be a little 'funny' on the Z5 - did you find it improved low light focus, or was it mainly just subject detection type stuff? :)
There were a couple of firmware updates that improved face/eye detection.

Once I learned how the Z camera focus worked compared to the DSLRs, I didn't have much issues with focus except in really dim conditions.

Most of the time these days if I miss focus it is because of user error on my part or I am trying to acquire and stay on something faster than the camera can track.

The first thing I had to learn was that the Z bodies don't have an equivalent to the cross type focus sensors of the DSLRs. The system discriminates much better with detail across the horizontal axis (vertical detail - at least angled somewhat from horizontal) assuming the camera is held in standard landscape mode.. If there is no vertical contrasty detail the camera will have difficulty focusing. This can be addressed by tilting the camera slightly. If they camera is in portrait mode then you need to consider the scene given the 90 degree rotation of the camera. Also, the brighter the image in the EVF the better the camera focuses. So in low light a faster lens than the kit lenses is helpful as is setting a longer shutter speed and/or higher ISO. These characteristics of the focusing system are not unique to the Z5 in the Nikon lineup. This is all covered in Thom Hogan's and Steve Perry's eBooks. The newer EXPEED7 based bodies are improved.
 
Congratulations!

The Z5 is a fabulous camera. When you have it in your hands, you'll know why this site declared it, "the best value stills-oriented full-framer."

Enjoy it and please post some photos that you take with it.

And, yeah, a version II seems right around the corner. But, as you have pointed out, that's likely why you got such a good deal on "the best value, mirror-less, stills-oriented full-framer" available.
 
Congratulations! You will love the Nikon Z5 as it is a very capable basic and affordable, full frame camera particularly well-suited for still photography. I am an old style photographer and use mine just as I did my original Nikon F in 1969. I shoot primarily in manual mode but occasionally in aperture priority. The Z5 auto-focus works fine for my aging eyes and auto-ISO comes in handy sometimes.

Watch some Henry Hudson setup videos on YouTube to learn more about menu settings. I admire those that possess the skills to shoot professionally with a Nikon Z8 or Z9, but I certainly don't need those advanced features.
 
Only thing id check is the EVF and rear screen in low light, My Z5 had so much noise/gain that it interfered with composing photos in anything more than moderately low light. I don't know if this is typical of the Z5 or just my camera But the Z6 i replaced it with doesn't have this issue.

outside of that issue i think the Z5 is a very capable Camera and it sounds like you got it for a great price. Enjoy..
 
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Only thing id check is the EVF and rear screen in low light, My Z5 had so much noise/gain that it interfered with composing photos in anything more than moderately low light. I don't know if this is typical of the Z5 or just my camera But the Z6 i replaced it with doesn't have this issue.
I think that depends on how the light is and what you consider moderately low light.

In my office with subdued lighting, ISO 100, f/4, 2" exposure time (EV 3) the EVF is pretty clear. Same with f/2 and 4" exposure (EV 0) though it starts show some noise.

That's just a couple of reference points.

Yea, at EV -2 the EVF is noisy and for some subjects composition can be tough.
outside of that issue i think the Z5 is a very capable Camera and it sounds like you got it for a great price. Enjoy..
 
Only thing id check is the EVF and rear screen in low light, My Z5 had so much noise/gain that it interfered with composing photos in anything more than moderately low light. I don't know if this is typical of the Z5 or just my camera But the Z6 i replaced it with doesn't have this issue.
I think that depends on how the light is and what you consider moderately low light.
I distinctively remember photographing waterfalls in the rainforest here when i first encountered the issue, Settings were ISO 100, F14, 10" exposure time. My Z6 EVF in similar condition's is much cleaner.
In my office with subdued lighting, ISO 100, f/4, 2" exposure time (EV 3) the EVF is pretty clear. Same with f/2 and 4" exposure (EV 0) though it starts show some noise.

That's just a couple of reference points.

Yea, at EV -2 the EVF is noisy and for some subjects composition can be tough.
outside of that issue i think the Z5 is a very capable Camera and it sounds like you got it for a great price. Enjoy..
 
Hi folks

I'm finally making the jump from DSLR to mirrorless (610 -> 750 -> Z5) and my Z5 should be arriving by next weekend. Quite excited!

Just wondering if there's any 'setting you really must change' type knowledge out there I should be aware of?

Also - is the latest firmware a significant improvement from the original? Anything of note changed
The Z5ii is due to be released in the near future. Likely to be rather more up to date on a number of counts.
I suspect that's why I'm able to afford this one - getting it for £615 brand new!

So happy enough with the slightly older model, as I imagine the II would be out of my price range for a while :)
Oh well that’s great then. I was more worried that you were unaware and would be upset if a new body was announced in a couple of days. But if you were able to get that good deal then more power to your elbow. Enjoy it all the more!
 
I hate to say this....but cancel the Z5.

The Z5II is coming very soon and will have the FAR superior AF module along with many other advantages. Not only will it be a better camera, it also crush the resale value of the old Z5.

Z5 was okay, but the AF was well behind. Z bodies have evolved into amazing cameras and the Z5II will be part of that very good company.

If you can't afford the new version it would probably be worth saving up for.

Robert
I've pulled this post up as a good example of very poor 'advice'. The OP has already bought the Z5 it seems, and at £615, an utter steal. So let's examine why telling someone to 'cancel' the Z5 is such bad advice:



AF: the Z5 already has excellent AF, if you put it into a wider perspective. Certainly, the camera can focus far quicker than you can. As someone who learned on film, with very basic and clunky old cameras with absolutely no automation at all, and who has shot sports on a fully manual camera with no AF, I can tell you that there is no bad modern AF system. As for the Z5ii having a 'far superior' AF system; the actual differences in real world shooting will be slight, not so significant. My Z50ii andZ8 aren't so far ahead of my Z6 in practical use. Things like Eye AF are slightly better; a little faster and more accurate. But definitely not FAR superior in my view. I'm not getting significantly better results with the newer cameras.



Take time to learn how the AF system works, and experiment. Try things out to see what works best for you; I like Eye AF, but find some other modes to be a waste of time for how I shoot. Even in fast moving, extremely challenging environments (I shoot a lot in nightclubs), I find the AF systems to work pretty well, and there's always manual focus as backup; I think a lot of younger photographers who grew up in the AF era just aren't experienced with how to focus accurately in manual mode. And remember, nothing is perfect. Try to imagine AF performance on a scale of 1 to 10; the earliest systems were around say 3 or 4 in terms of speed and efficiency (compared to manual focussing at 1), but todays systems are like 9+. so the AF in the Z5ii might go from 9.5 to 9.6. The incremental performance increase is much smaller than we saw in the earlier days of AF; AF performance could jump from 4 to 5, say, with a single generational update. Much bigger leaps.



Regarding the most important aspect, image quality, the Z5ii probably won't offer anything above the Z5 in any practical terms; in-camera noise reduction might be a little better, teeny bit more dynamic range, but nothing that will impact on the quality of your pictures. Remember that even the most critical reviewers were raving about how good cameras were 5 years ago or whatever; they haven't suddenly become terrible.

So yeah; the Z5 for that price is an exceptional deal. The Z5ii may well come in getting towards 3x the price; for that 'saving', you can buy a couple of lenses perhaps. That would make a far more significant impact on your photography than an AF system that might be 5% quicker (and we're already talking fractions of a second here anyway).

When giving advice, try to think about what the person asking for it actually needs to hear, not what YOU want. If a person says they can't afford the newer model, don't tell them to 'save up' for it, this is crap. They could be out taking pictures in that time. And that's all that matters, quite frankly.
 
For me, the biggest change going from DSLR to mirrorless was using autofocus (AF) in a new way. DSLRs were mostly focus-and-recompose in AF-S (single-servo AF). With those center-positioned AF points, it was the easiest and fastest method. With mirrorless cameras, it's now mostly AF-C (continuous-servo AF) and changing the focus point position with the composition already in place. And when taking portraits, the AF does its magic on its own. I transitioned from a D750 to a D850 to a Z7. The best part was the "absence" of shutter shock on the Z7 and the presence of IBIS (in-body image stabilization). The Z5 is no different in this regard. Just think of it as a lighter D750 with better AF. Don't pay attention to "it's an older model" nagging, it's the best FF ML camera in this price range and beyond. If you can, transition to the native Z lenses, you will be pleasantly surprised.
 
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I hate to say this....but cancel the Z5.

The Z5II is coming very soon and will have the FAR superior AF module along with many other advantages. Not only will it be a better camera, it also crush the resale value of the old Z5.

Z5 was okay, but the AF was well behind. Z bodies have evolved into amazing cameras and the Z5II will be part of that very good company.

If you can't afford the new version it would probably be worth saving up for.

Robert
I've pulled this post up as a good example of very poor 'advice'. The OP has already bought the Z5 it seems, and at £615, an utter steal. So let's examine why telling someone to 'cancel' the Z5 is such bad advice:

AF: the Z5 already has excellent AF, if you put it into a wider perspective. Certainly, the camera can focus far quicker than you can. As someone who learned on film, with very basic and clunky old cameras with absolutely no automation at all, and who has shot sports on a fully manual camera with no AF, I can tell you that there is no bad modern AF system. As for the Z5ii having a 'far superior' AF system; the actual differences in real world shooting will be slight, not so significant. My Z50ii andZ8 aren't so far ahead of my Z6 in practical use. Things like Eye AF are slightly better; a little faster and more accurate. But definitely not FAR superior in my view. I'm not getting significantly better results with the newer cameras.

Take time to learn how the AF system works, and experiment. Try things out to see what works best for you; I like Eye AF, but find some other modes to be a waste of time for how I shoot. Even in fast moving, extremely challenging environments (I shoot a lot in nightclubs), I find the AF systems to work pretty well, and there's always manual focus as backup; I think a lot of younger photographers who grew up in the AF era just aren't experienced with how to focus accurately in manual mode. And remember, nothing is perfect. Try to imagine AF performance on a scale of 1 to 10; the earliest systems were around say 3 or 4 in terms of speed and efficiency (compared to manual focussing at 1), but todays systems are like 9+. so the AF in the Z5ii might go from 9.5 to 9.6. The incremental performance increase is much smaller than we saw in the earlier days of AF; AF performance could jump from 4 to 5, say, with a single generational update. Much bigger leaps.

Regarding the most important aspect, image quality, the Z5ii probably won't offer anything above the Z5 in any practical terms; in-camera noise reduction might be a little better, teeny bit more dynamic range, but nothing that will impact on the quality of your pictures. Remember that even the most critical reviewers were raving about how good cameras were 5 years ago or whatever; they haven't suddenly become terrible.

So yeah; the Z5 for that price is an exceptional deal. The Z5ii may well come in getting towards 3x the price; for that 'saving', you can buy a couple of lenses perhaps. That would make a far more significant impact on your photography than an AF system that might be 5% quicker (and we're already talking fractions of a second here anyway).

When giving advice, try to think about what the person asking for it actually needs to hear, not what YOU want. If a person says they can't afford the newer model, don't tell them to 'save up' for it, this is crap. They could be out taking pictures in that time. And that's all that matters, quite frankly.
Oh boy....

First let's start with the gear I use: Pair of Z9's, Zf, Zfc, etc. Usage envelope: Pro set photography, location work, director finder kit, candid portrait, etc. I work in the film biz and work with set photographers as well. I also work with cinema cameras, Arri, Sony & RED. Heck, we even had a pair of Arri Sig. primes on a Z9!

Previous bodies: Everything from D5 to Z7II and yes, I have shot with the Z5.

Even when the Z5 first came out, the AF was not state of the art. Conversely the new AF systems are VASTLY superior. We use Sony and Canon as well and the Z9 and Zf work about as well, which is very important when shooting stuff that moves...or doesn't move in all kinds of lighting situations.

While even a "old" D800 and Z7 can certainly create amazing results, it's rather silly to ignore the progress we now have.

The Z5II will have the MUCH improved AF, among many other tweaks. So the ONLY reason to buy very old tech is BUDGET. I have no idea if the OP can afford the newer camera or save for it in a time period that's acceptable, but if he could, he'd have a BETTER TOOL.

I fail to understand how this is "bad advice." If he can wait, he'll have a better camera. Period. Much better in fact. If he can't wait or the price is too high, he can stick with the current plan. But the improvements made, especially in AF, have been remarkable. The whole world of shooters aren't lying about it.

Robert
 
Hi folks

I'm finally making the jump from DSLR to mirrorless (610 -> 750 -> Z5) and my Z5 should be arriving by next weekend. Quite excited!
Congratulations, and if I read correctly, at 615 units of money you got quite the deal too.
Just wondering if there's any 'setting you really must change' type knowledge out there I should be aware of?
Ehh, settings I find to be more of a personal thing. Definitely take your time and adjust to the camera a bit. The new placement of the ISO button on the Z5 from where it was on the pre-2016 cameras will surely already be a lot of muscle memory to overcome, but otherwise just be sure to explore what your options are and set your function buttons to something you actually use.

Some knowledge that I think is useful to anyone coming from DSLR to Nikon mirrorless - the AF is different. DSLR's focus at max aperture and stop down when shooting, while Z mirrorless focus at the aperture you're set at (or at f/5.6, whichever is more open). While this helps with the "what you see is what you get" EVF functionality of mirrorless, it absolutely can tank your low light focusing ability. If you find that focus is really giving you trouble in low light, try opening up your aperture to focus. It's helped me a lot in the past with Expeed6 generation cameras.
Also - is the latest firmware a significant improvement from the original? Anything of note changed or added?
I don't have a Z5, but from my experience with other Expeed6 cameras (Z6, Z7, Z7ii) there wasn't any "stand out" feature other than the improvements made to AF and focusing modes. The AF improvement was significant, but only in certain modes. If you use and like single point and dynamic already with your D750, it should work just as well in the Z5. Depending on situation, using the other modes (Auto Area, Wide Area S/L) your mileage may vary.
 
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