What the GFX100RF needs (it's not ibis or faster lens).

I don’t understand why the lack of IBIS is not an issue.
Modern cars have all sorts of safety features which were not always available. Just because I have driven for years without ABS doesn’t mean I don’t care if a new car I buy doesn’t have that safety feature.

IBIS is not always needed but it is a useful feature and not a handicap. For a top tier camera costing thousands of dollars IBIS should have been included.
 
I don’t understand why the lack of IBIS is not an issue.
Modern cars have all sorts of safety features which were not always available. Just because I have driven for years without ABS doesn’t mean I don’t care if a new car I buy doesn’t have that safety feature.

IBIS is not always needed but it is a useful feature and not a handicap. For a top tier camera costing thousands of dollars IBIS should have been included.
Since you mention automobiles, I wonder if you think that fully-manual transmissions should not be offered on cars? We're headed in that direction, which I think is a shame.
 
I don’t understand why the lack of IBIS is not an issue.
I used to shoot with film years ago, so I know how to handle a camera to give minial shake.
Modern cars have all sorts of safety features which were not always available. Just because I have driven for years without ABS doesn’t mean I don’t care if a new car I buy doesn’t have that safety feature.
I get that, but I am not going to mad that a car has a manual transmission. Matter of fact, while I wouldn't want to drive it every day, I would enjoy shifting gears for the time I was in the car.
IBIS is not always needed but it is a useful feature and not a handicap. For a top tier camera costing thousands of dollars IBIS should have been included.
I would have also preferred IBIS, and I don't like their reasons for it not being there, but lack of IBIS doesn't keep me away unless I can't get the shot I want. And tripods, flashes and a leaf shutter are tools to minimize that lack of ibis if needed. But yes, I would have preferred to have vs not having it.
 
I think changing gears manually is preferable in certain cars and for some drivers however it would be wrong to offer only manual transmissions and for customers to have no choice in the matter.

When, not if, Fujifilm decides to incorporate IBIS in this camera, I would be shocked if they continue to sell models without IBIS as well. Just as they did with the X100VI, they will incorporate the IBIS in the GFX to keep the demand high and to have a reason for customers to upgrade even though Fujifilm could have done so with this model already.
 
Hi,

ABS doesn't like it when I install brake bias valves. Which is a superior safety braking feature than ABS. But it requires a driver with certain skills to make it work. ABS is targeted at the unskilled.

Same for seat belts. A 4-point is far safer than a 3-point. And a 5-point even more so. But you'd never get most drivers to put on a 4-, much less a 5-, point. And then you can dump the airbag.

I have been thinking for a while now regarding the 100RF is that perhaps the designers have a higher level of Photographer in mind....

Stan
 
Hi,

Yep. One more skill to learn that doesn't need to be learned now. Sad.

First, the crash box went. So don't need to learn double clutching. Then the synchro box went. So don't need to learn heel and toe. Then the constant mesh (collar shift) is going. So don't need to learn even the clutch to take off. Sad.

On the other hand, the ones which remain are a teriffic anti theft device. ;)

Stan
 
I think changing gears manually is preferable in certain cars and for some drivers however it would be wrong to offer only manual transmissions and for customers to have no choice in the matter.
There are cars -- fewer and fewer -- that are available only with manual transmissions. I have no problem with that. If you want an automatic or a dual-clutch transmission, you can buy some other car.

Variety is a good thing for the consumer.
 
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ABS doesn't like it when I install brake bias valves. Which is a superior safety braking feature than ABS. But it requires a driver with certain skills to make it work. ABS is targeted at the unskilled.
Indeed. But there are implementations that can do things that a driver can't do, especially when coupled with advanced traction control systems. But most of the time, traction control is a fun suppressor.
Same for seat belts. A 4-point is far safer than a 3-point. And a 5-point even more so. But you'd never get most drivers to put on a 4-, much less a 5-, point. And then you can dump the airbag.

I have been thinking for a while now regarding the 100RF is that perhaps the designers have a higher level of Photographer in mind....
On some manual transmission cars it's very difficult to heel-and-toe because of the way the pedals are laid out. Another case of dumbing down the vehicle.
 
A built in flash comes in handy for casual indoor people shots, flower shots, animal shots if you can get close enough, food shots, macro photos.
 
A built in flash comes in handy for casual indoor people shots, flower shots, animal shots if you can get close enough, food shots, macro photos.
 
A built in flash comes in handy for casual indoor people shots, flower shots, animal shots if you can get close enough, food shots, macro photos.
I have never experienced a built in flash that didn’t produce ugly lighting.
Yup, I believe that's what we previously called "old time candide look" at the beginning of this thread ;-)

I don't like it either, it goes against my conception of photography... but some people look for this kind of lighting, actually it seems to be more and more appreciated, you can even see it in some exhibitions. It brings a touch of "raw authenticity". It's a choice. The only thing I find a little hard to understand is why use a 102 mp MF sensor in this kind of scenario. I find that ‘harsh lighting’ really adds a touch of originality when pushed to truly vintage image quality (for example, what you'd get with an instax). But that's me !
 
A built in flash comes in handy for casual indoor people shots, flower shots, animal shots if you can get close enough, food shots, macro photos.
I have never experienced a built in flash that didn’t produce ugly lighting.
I used to believe that then learned how to use the built in flash. That's not a slight, but if I learn how to use the flash I can get the light I want.

I am not against putting a piece of tape on the flash to soften the light. Angling pop up flashes at the ceiling which gives really good light but requires that you have good finger dexterity. And knowing how far my flash will shoot. Add a life shutter to the mix and you get a lot more options.

I am going to add a godox im20 which is little more than a built in flash. And expect it to help me get great shots, when there is little light.

Lastly their is post processing and masking that can allow you to clean up the light. Ultimately I would rather have enough light than not have it....
 
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1. Built in flash
I'm not sure I understand. Could you please elaborate? In what situations would you use a built-in flash to solve a low light problem, and can you describe in which way you would use it? Curious to know more about this - I recently bought a X100VI, which includes a built-in flash, and I was wondering what to do with it
Simple answer, I would use it when I didn't have enough light. It gives an old time candid look that is fine with me. Times I would use, inside candid shots, food shots when I am out on the town, portraits when I want to darken the background, and highlight the user. The leaf shutter makes the built in flash far more useful than a typical curtain shutter.

As far as your x100vi just play with the flash. Turn it on in daylight, in high DR situations, in pitch dark, and see what it can do. You will come away with ideas.
and/or flash trigger.
Are you also talking about a built-in flash trigger? I'm not familiar with this kind of system; all the lighting systems I've used worked with a dedicated flash trigger connected to the hotshoe. Could you please describe the kind of system you're referring to? And what kind of lighting would you / could you use with this kind of trigger ? (a traditional lighting set, including at least one softbox, is considerably bigger and heavier than a tripod...)
Yes a built in radio trigger, that could be configured from the camera's menu. My initial used would be for a hand held flash, but I would want one that could control several lights via radio. My Sony allows for configuring the lights within the camera menu but you need at least one flash/remote to manage it from the camera. Having that functionality built in would be incredibly cool/useful.
I can't see many photographers with an MF camera wanting a small built-in flash.

Personally, I would no use for this at all.
Since this is a style camera that no one has ever built/used before we really don't know how people are going to use it. Count me into the lot, that would have liked a proper built in flash. Considering what they can do with a small flash this isn't really an issue (see the Godox im20 which can light up an entire room).
Isn't the Q3 the same style camera?
 
Hi,

Just buy one of those baby pocket flash units.

Edit: I did get one to go with my GFX-100. Have only run off a few test shots. It seems to do the same fill flash job as the Nikon SB-400 I bought with my Df, and that one I've made good use of many times.

Stan

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Hi,

The most fun car to drive I had on the street was a Lotus Seven. Absolutely everything controlled by the driver. Caterham still makes them, having taken over from Lotus back in 1974 when Lotus wanted to go upmarket.

Stan
 
It’s good when NOT putting in a useful feature can be considered a plus! Win for the manufacturer:)

Leica should upgrade their superb Q3 43, by following this kind of thing and remove the lens IS?

I have decided to spend a few thousand dollars more for the 43 but would have seriously considered the GFX if not for this shortcoming.
 
Hi,

BTW, speaking of old things Lotus, the Wood Bros are sporting a livery for this year's NASCAR race at Darlington which is a homage to Jim Clark's Indy 500 win. The Wood Bros were part of that team.

Thats the same paint scheme I used on my Lotus 24 F1 car I ran in vintage events in the mid 1980s. And that 24 was the most fun to drive of any of the cars I raced over the years. You could really drift that thing thru the turns. And the 1.5L V8 was a very good engine. Well matched to the chassis and suspension.

Made me wish I had a time machine to go back and run F1 in the 1960s.

Stan
 
Hi,

BTW, speaking of old things Lotus, the Wood Bros are sporting a livery for this year's NASCAR race at Darlington which is a homage to Jim Clark's Indy 500 win. The Wood Bros were part of that team.

Thats the same paint scheme I used on my Lotus 24 F1 car I ran in vintage events in the mid 1980s. And that 24 was the most fun to drive of any of the cars I raced over the years. You could really drift that thing thru the turns. And the 1.5L V8 was a very good engine. Well matched to the chassis and suspension.

Made me wish I had a time machine to go back and run F1 in the 1960s.
That was an extremely dangerous time for F1.
 
It’s good when NOT putting in a useful feature can be considered a plus! Win for the manufacturer:)
Some automobile manufacturers are masters at this -- I'm looking at you, Porsche.
Leica should upgrade their superb Q3 43, by following this kind of thing and remove the lens IS?
Options are good. A smaller, lighter Q3 with no IS might be an attractive choice for some, but it would have to be quite a bit smaller than the GFX RF to be in a different market.
I have decided to spend a few thousand dollars more for the 43 but would have seriously considered the GFX if not for this shortcoming.
To each his own.
 

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