VR Lenses for a Zfc

RJake1 said:

Can anyone suggest a good VR lens for a Zfc that won't break the bank? I'd like to buy a

Zfc but am concerned about lack of IBIS. Thanks.

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All of the DX zooms have VR (16-50, 50-250, 12-28 and 18-40). None of the primes in the Z line have VR until you get to the longer FLs (for FF) like the 400/f4 and onward.

if you don't have the kit 16-50, I would get that as a place to start and it seems like the VR in the DX lenses (and FF lenses) is quite effective, at least up to 2-3 stops I'd say. If you're worried about lack of VR, maybe keep an eye out for a refurbished or used Zf (which has IBIS, but you'd then need to buy FF lenses for it). refurbished Zf's have come up on sale periodically and weren't that expensive, maybe $1500 if I remember correctly. You could probably find a used one for about the same price too. But if you're worried about VR and lack of IBIS in the Zfc, then stick to the DX APSC zooms.

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On the subject of IBIS: it is certainly an overstatement to say that IBIS is absolutely necessary in all cameras and for all subjects, and many photographers get on just fine without it. That said, it is just plain wrong and in fact downright misleading to suggest that IBIS is not proven technology, or worse still, that it is actually detrimental to image acuity.

For countless thousands of photographers of all levels of experience, it has been a game changer.

But there are always a few "flat earthers" out there who insist, without evidence, on pretending that it is not beneficial and reliable, even though all major camera manufacturers have adopted it, and its effectiveness can easily be measured and reproduced.

All they can offer in response to overwhelming evidence is "I have a hunch that it shouldn't work," or "I never needed it on my trusty Spotmatic!"

It's one thing to say "I don't need it." But to say "it doesn't work" is just peddling misinformation.

Kinda what I have always said about IBIS. Personally, I prefer to not have it, and am uncomfortable with how it works. But always make sure to state that it is a personal thing and that I do not expect everyone to agree with. But it does in fact seem to work. It is yet to be determined how it will handle the test of time, and unfortunately I probably won't be around 20 years from now to see how well it holds up in that time frame. So far I have never had a VR in lens system fail personally in that many years, but maybe others have. And my one camera that has ibis still seems to be working, but it's not very old and I only have stabilized lenses to use on that camera anyway.

I agree. Have been using IBIS/VR for over 20 years and have struggled with the different interactions among my different Nikons (D70, D2x, D700, D800, etc...) Earlier Nikons had none, the D700 with the 70-200mm VR had in lens Normal/Active VR. Same for the D800 and D850. Then upgraded to the Z8 with IBIS, and the Zfc with in lens VR.

Experimenting with all the upgrades and when to use them is a challenge.

Bob A L said:

Kinda what I have always said about IBIS. Personally, I prefer to not have it, and am uncomfortable with how it works. But always make sure to state that it is a personal thing and that I do not expect everyone to agree with. But it does in fact seem to work. It is yet to be determined how it will handle the test of time, and unfortunately I probably won't be around 20 years from now to see how well it holds up in that time frame. So far I have never had a VR in lens system fail personally in that many years, but maybe others have. And my one camera that has ibis still seems to be working, but it's not very old and I only have stabilized lenses to use on that camera anyway.

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You have said that it is a personal thing, and yet you have also used the term "floppy sensor" on numerous occasions, which at best seems a bit obtuse (I assure you, the sensor in a camera with IBIS does not flop), and at worst, seems deliberately provocative, and there is a word for that kind of behavior.

The fact that an opinion is "personal" does not mean the opinion will not be challenged, if it has no basis in fact, and if that opinion is expressed provocatively and repeatedly, every time the subject comes up.

Bob A L said:

Kinda what I have always said about IBIS. Personally, I prefer to not have it, and am uncomfortable with how it works. But always make sure to state that it is a personal thing and that I do not expect everyone to agree with. But it does in fact seem to work. It is yet to be determined how it will handle the test of time,…………………….

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are you suggesting that the fine images taken with ibis on will degrade over time?

It looks like no one has suggested the Full Frame 24-200mm VR lens as an option to consider. Together with the 12-28 DX, it makes a kit that covers a pretty big field of view.