OG Z7 as a travel camera?

The Z50 and Z7 have the same pixel pitch and equivalent resolution so I don't see a gain there.
Unless you use FX glass as I intend to, in which case you more than double your resolution.
If you are now familiar with the Z50ii menu structure you will often be looking for settings that don't exist on the Z7. Expeed 7 makes a HUGE difference in available options.
Day to day, the only menu option I use is format card. Everything else is on a physical control or the I menu.
I don't need to take two types of spare batteries and memory cards. EN-EL25 and SD are all I need and the Z50ii can charge the batteries internally.
Likewise, I’ll take EN EL 15s and CFe cards which I already have for my Z8.
It appears to me that you will be buying an obsolete camera and adding complications to your trip.
I don’t see the complications you do but maybe I’m overlooking something.
 
I found a low mileage, excellent condition one for £999 so I ordered it. Fingers crossed it’s as described.
 
The Z7 was my first mirrorless body. It served me well as a vacation/travel camera for about 3 years. I upgraded to the Z8 primarily for the benefits of the EXPEED7 processor and better AF tracking. For landscape and travel photography, you could do a lot worse.
IMO, for landscape and travel, you really can't do much better than the Z7. After seven years of using my Z7, I still haven't found anything I'd rather travel with.

Taking it (and my 24-120 and 50 f/1.8) with me to Japan in May.
 
Looking at the sizes and weights of the Z50ii and the Z8 and comparing it to the original Z7 gets me this.

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So the Z7 arrived today, not bad given that delivery was included in the £999 price. The actual line up looks like this size-wise.

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Now, here's the new dillema. There's no doubt that the Z50 ii and the 18-140 is lighter than the Z7 and the 24-200. However, most of that weight difference is coming from the lens (315g vs 550g). Only 125g is coming from the body (550g vs 675g). Some of that is the difference between the batteries and cards, and frankly I'm happy to take that little bit of weight to standardise my batteries on EN-EL15s and to have the comfort of a single CFe card vs a single SD card..

So, if I put the DX lens (18-140 or 16-50 for extreme lightweight) on the Z7, I lose 1.4MP because the Z7 DX crop is 19.5 MP rather than 20.9. Is it worth hanging onto the Z50ii for 1.4MP, especially given the Z7 is a DX camera with IBIS when fitted with a DX lens?

I have to say, I'm thinking not.

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"So I know the AF will be limited compared to the other 2..."

Limited? Huh? As in you won't be able to take pics with the Z7? Please explain
 
Looking at the sizes and weights of the Z50ii and the Z8 and comparing it to the original Z7 gets me this.

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So the Z7 arrived today, not bad given that delivery was included in the £999 price. The actual line up looks like this size-wise.

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Z8 is a brick - I have to repeat this to myself every day ;-)
 
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"So I know the AF will be limited compared to the other 2..."

You're joking, right? You're afraid you can't get the shot with a Z7? I never heard of that
 
Looking at the sizes and weights of the Z50ii and the Z8 and comparing it to the original Z7 gets me this.

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So the Z7 arrived today, not bad given that delivery was included in the £999 price. The actual line up looks like this size-wise.

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Z8 is a brick - I have to repeat this to myself every day ;-)
My F5 was a brick. 😄 The Z8 less so but it’s bigger than I’d want for long mountain hikes.

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"So I know the AF will be limited compared to the other 2..."

You're afraid you can't get the shot with a Z7?
Not at all. Wouldn’t have bought one if that was the case. Not sure why you thought that.
 
So, if I put the DX lens (18-140 or 16-50 for extreme lightweight) on the Z7, I lose 1.4MP because the Z7 DX crop is 19.5 MP rather than 20.9. Is it worth hanging onto the Z50ii for 1.4MP, especially given the Z7 is a DX camera with IBIS when fitted with a DX lens?

I have to say, I'm thinking not.
I would say it only depends on how much better the AF/cont. shooting of the Z50 II is on dynamically moving targets compared to the Z7 and if you think that you require this improvement in a small camera for your use cases.

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So, if I put the DX lens (18-140 or 16-50 for extreme lightweight) on the Z7, I lose 1.4MP because the Z7 DX crop is 19.5 MP rather than 20.9. Is it worth hanging onto the Z50ii for 1.4MP, especially given the Z7 is a DX camera with IBIS when fitted with a DX lens?

I have to say, I'm thinking not.
I would say it only depends on how much better the AF/cont. shooting of the Z50 II is on dynamically moving targets compared to the Z7 and if you think that you require this improvement in a small camera for your use cases.
 
I'm off to the Dolomites in June and then around the world in November/December. Both trips will be a mixture of cities/general tourism and hiking. I currently have a Z50ii for hiking/biking and a Z8 for everything else.

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I would honestly just take the Z50II, a 12-28 and whatever other lenses you want, and call it a day.

Is the Z7 higher res with IBIS? Yes. But the Z50II will be better at just about everything else, while still being lighter. A Z50II with 12-28, 16-50, and 50-250 is practically weightless compared to similar lenses on a Z7 while also being small enough to easily fit in a bag like a Thinktank Retrospective 4.

if you're considering a 24-200, shallow depth of field is obviously not a goal, so save the weight. The 20MP chip in the Z30/50 is really good. I've gotten some great results with my Z30.

This is at ISO 12,800, what more would one really want or need?

Z30, 800PF, ISO 12800, DXO
Z30, 800PF, ISO 12800, DXO
 
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Is the Z7 higher res with IBIS? Yes. But the Z50II will be better at just about everything else, while still being lighter.
Given that the Z7 will be used solely for landscape and travel, what is "everything else?"
A Z50II with 12-28, 16-50, and 50-250 is practically weightless compared to similar lenses on a Z7 while also being small enough to easily fit in a bag like a Thinktank Retrospective 4.
A 12-28, 16-50 and 50-250 is 125g heavier on a Z7 than a Z50ii. The great thing about the Z7 is that it provides 45MP and IBIS with FX lenses but can still provide 19.5MP and IBIS when paired with DX lenses for those times when the weight needs to be bare minimum. Feels like win-win to me.
if you're considering a 24-200, shallow depth of field is obviously not a goal, so save the weight.
Not considering 24-200, already have it. And since I started this thread, I've also found a Z7 and it arrived this morning (see post earlier today).
The 20MP chip in the Z30/50 is really good. I've gotten some great results with my Z30.
And me with my D500, Z50 and Z50ii over the last 10 years. But they've always played second fiddle to my D810, D850 and Z8 over that same period. The Z7, despite being first gen, feels like extraordinary bang for the buck.
Appreciate your viewpoint.
 

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