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Will you buy a GFX100RF?

Will you buy a GFX100RF?

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Nope. The camera has a focal length I rarely, if ever, use. Besides, I already own a real GFX body and multiple lenses, including the superb 20-35mm f4.

This camera is really NOT a GFX system camera, it has a fixed (non removable) lens. The only thing it has in common with GFX, is the sensor size. And, of course, the Fuji brand name. Maybe they should have named it RFX.

I like the leaf shutter lens (GFX could do with a few) and the complete lack of IBIS.

Question: what is the top (shortest) shutter speed? I see 4000 on that top dial (which I am assuming is shutter speed), but can leaf shutters now achieve that? Back in the days of film, 1/500 was pretty much the upper limit.
 
No ibis and slow f4 lens means I wouldn't get it. I'm happy with my x100vi, and if I was going to spend that much money, I'd spend a bit more and get a Leica Q3.
 
BlueJakester said:
The GFX100RF with 35mm f/4 Lens (28mm Equiv.) and 102MP 43.8 x 32.9mm BSI CMOS II sensor has been announced with a price of $4900. Will you buy one?
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Help me understand what is this camera best for and who are the main target buyers?

For Street, travel, casual EDC... I don't think I need an MF camera with 102 MP with no IBIS ( given I don't bring tripod most of the time)

For portraiture, if it has to be MF camera, the interchangeable lens MF cameras will serve the purpose much better.

For landscape, commercial, action shooting this is not the best choice without a question..

I really want to buy this camera ... Just can't find a good reason yet.
 
GodSpeaks said:
Nope. The camera has a focal length I rarely, if ever, use. Besides, I already own a real GFX body and multiple lenses, including the superb 20-35mm f4.

This camera is really NOT a GFX system camera, it has a fixed (non removable) lens. The only thing it has in common with GFX, is the sensor size. And, of course, the Fuji brand name. Maybe they should have named it RFX.

I like the leaf shutter lens (GFX could do with a few) and the complete lack of IBIS.

Question: what is the top (shortest) shutter speed? I see 4000 on that top dial (which I am assuming is shutter speed), but can leaf shutters now achieve that? Back in the days of film, 1/500 was pretty much the upper limit.
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The X100V is limited to 1/2000" at f/2, 1/2500" at f/2.8 , and 1/3200" at f/3.6, but can do 1/4000" at f/4.5 - f/16 (though the bokeh gets noticeably weird at the higher shutter speeds with the leaf shutter). Not sure about GFX100RF.
 
DJ STU-C said:
jaberg said:
Claims that this survey proves Fuji was wrong to introduce this camera illustrate a misunderstanding of statitistics. This is a niche camera within a niche within a niche. I’d expect the attachment rate to be 5% or less.
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Not forgetting it’s been posted on the wrong forum technically.
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Thank you DJ for pointing that out when a Mod ignored it. 🤪 While it technically belongs on the Medium format forum, it makes sense to allow it here since it is a Fuji medium format version of the camera that started the Fuji X line, the X100.
 
Erik Baumgartner said:
jonikon said:
DJ STU-C said:
jonikon said:
Truman Prevatt said:
The price point is very interested when compared to the Q3. At the 35 mm crop, the GFX100RF is equivalent to 61 MP which is 50% more than the X100VI. The GFX100RF is about a 1000 bucks less than the Leica Q3.

While the lack of IS might be an issue with some, in reality if people are in the frame - one has to shoot fast enough to eliminate subject motion so I suspect lack of IS won't be that big a deal. There is also no mechanical shutter to produce shutter shock.
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According to the Fujifilm website the GFX100RF DOES have a mechanical shutter, (but does not specify the type). Flash photography would not be possible without one.
Erik Baumgartner said:
Right now if were a choice of the Q3 and the GFX I would op for the GFX. The GFX has two additional stops of DR which is very nice. Yep, I'm interested. I'm mulling over trading in my Q2M. However, in real resolution the Q2M is equivalent to the GFX.

PetaPixel had a long video review today of the GFX100RF. It is a very temping camera.
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It’s got a leaf shutter, from the videos I’ve seen.
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I suspected as such. Too bad a built in flash was not included to take advantage of fully synced flash up to 1/4000 second with this type of shutter. Much more convenient than an add-on flash, and likely needed indoors with only an f4 lens.
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It's an enormous sensor, it'll do just fine indoors at f/4 without a flash. Built-in fill flash always looks terrible anyway, IMO. I never use the flash in my X100V.
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And yet Fujifilm in their wisdom included a built-in flash in their X100 cameras for those (not you), who would like to use it. No doubt reviewers of the X100V would have pointed out the omission of a built in flash as a negative. I have used the built in flash of my Nikon Coolpix A camera to remove shadows from faces in shadows on sunny days to good effect. Better to include a feature that some would find useful than not offering it at all. The flash omission is especially odd considering the high cost of the GFX100RF, but then again the camera has an oddball design to the controls that could have, and should have, been much better for a camera at this price level.
 
I'll save money for the XPro4. There is no reason for me to use a medium format camera.
 
nonicks said:
BlueJakester said:
The GFX100RF with 35mm f/4 Lens (28mm Equiv.) and 102MP 43.8 x 32.9mm BSI CMOS II sensor has been announced with a price of $4900. Will you buy one?
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Help me understand what is this camera best for and who are the main target buyers?

For Street, travel, casual EDC... I don't think I need an MF camera with 102 MP with no IBIS ( given I don't bring tripod most of the time)

For portraiture, if it has to be MF camera, the interchangeable lens MF cameras will serve the purpose much better.

For landscape, commercial, action shooting this is not the best choice without a question..

I really want to buy this camera ... Just can't find a good reason yet.
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MF quality in a portable and lightweight format (but not too small) is attractive to professional and semi-pro photographers.

Price is very reasonable compared to Hasselblad.

It has a number of useful features as well, fast flash sync, leaf shutter, ND filter, excellent user interface with fast access to crop modes, aspect ratios and film simulations.

 
KennyXYZ said:
Couldn't justify the price for F4 and no IBIS.
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It has a leaf shutter and no focal plane shutter. I could easily handheld my Fuji GSW690ll (6x9 cm film MF rangefinder) with its leave shutter.

Sure IBIS would have been nice.
 
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No, but I want to.
 
nonicks said:
BlueJakester said:
The GFX100RF with 35mm f/4 Lens (28mm Equiv.) and 102MP 43.8 x 32.9mm BSI CMOS II sensor has been announced with a price of $4900. Will you buy one?
Click to expand...
Help me understand what is this camera best for and who are the main target buyers?

For Street, travel, casual EDC... I don't think I need an MF camera with 102 MP with no IBIS ( given I don't bring tripod most of the time)

For portraiture, if it has to be MF camera, the interchangeable lens MF cameras will serve the purpose much better.

For landscape, commercial, action shooting this is not the best choice without a question..

I really want to buy this camera ... Just can't find a good reason yet.
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I think it would be great for landscape and travel photography.

Less weight on long demanding hikes. I wish I would have had this lightweight medium format camera on the Everest trail decades ago. Every gr or oz of weight to carry at this altitude is a pain. You don't want your Sherpa to carry your camera.
 
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MKenna said:
nonicks said:
BlueJakester said:
The GFX100RF with 35mm f/4 Lens (28mm Equiv.) and 102MP 43.8 x 32.9mm BSI CMOS II sensor has been announced with a price of $4900. Will you buy one?
Click to expand...
Help me understand what is this camera best for and who are the main target buyers?

For Street, travel, casual EDC... I don't think I need an MF camera with 102 MP with no IBIS ( given I don't bring tripod most of the time)

For portraiture, if it has to be MF camera, the interchangeable lens MF cameras will serve the purpose much better.

For landscape, commercial, action shooting this is not the best choice without a question..

I really want to buy this camera ... Just can't find a good reason yet.
Click to expand...
MF quality in a portable and lightweight format (but not too small) is attractive to professional and semi-pro photographers.

Price is very reasonable compared to Hasselblad.

It has a number of useful features as well, fast flash sync, leaf shutter, ND filter, excellent user interface with fast access to crop modes, aspect ratios and film simulations.

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But does it make more sense for a pro or semi-pro to opt for the interchangeable bodies? Isn't that fixed lens a limiting factor for pro/ semipro work regarding the prospective, FOV, and IQ. Also what genre of photography or operation style is this camera absolutely best for? To me, I just can't think of any...

I wonder why Fuji did not continue developing the GFX XXR line instead? Isn't that line more practical and flexible for pros and semi-pro whose works require MF sensor?

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/183079213@N06/
 
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nonicks said:
MKenna said:
nonicks said:
BlueJakester said:
The GFX100RF with 35mm f/4 Lens (28mm Equiv.) and 102MP 43.8 x 32.9mm BSI CMOS II sensor has been announced with a price of $4900. Will you buy one?
Click to expand...
Help me understand what is this camera best for and who are the main target buyers?

For Street, travel, casual EDC... I don't think I need an MF camera with 102 MP with no IBIS ( given I don't bring tripod most of the time)

For portraiture, if it has to be MF camera, the interchangeable lens MF cameras will serve the purpose much better.

For landscape, commercial, action shooting this is not the best choice without a question..

I really want to buy this camera ... Just can't find a good reason yet.
Click to expand...
MF quality in a portable and lightweight format (but not too small) is attractive to professional and semi-pro photographers.

Price is very reasonable compared to Hasselblad.

It has a number of useful features as well, fast flash sync, leaf shutter, ND filter, excellent user interface with fast access to crop modes, aspect ratios and film simulations.

Click to expand...
But does it make more sense for a pro or semi-pro to opt for the interchangeable bodies? Isn't that fixed lens a limiting factor for pro/ semipro work regarding the prospective, FOV, and IQ. Also what genre of photography or operation style is this camera absolutely best for? To me, I just can't think of any...

I wonder why Fuji did not continue developing the GFX XXR line instead? Isn't that line more practical and flexible for pros and semi-pro whose works require MF sensor?
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Minimal size and weight and superior image quality seem to be high priority and makes it compete with Leica Q, and even Hasselblad, still being cheaper.

100MP makes digital crop more usable.

Pros have more than one camera, and this could be a perfect second body for some, including myself. I would use it for just about anything except sports and action.
 
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I would buy it if I had the money. It is a fixed lens design, but when cropped to 63mm equivalent, you still have 45mp. So it is like having a 28-70mm f/2.8 equivalent FF zoom.

I think Leica should be worried...
 
MKenna said:
nonicks said:
MKenna said:
nonicks said:
BlueJakester said:
The GFX100RF with 35mm f/4 Lens (28mm Equiv.) and 102MP 43.8 x 32.9mm BSI CMOS II sensor has been announced with a price of $4900. Will you buy one?
Click to expand...
Help me understand what is this camera best for and who are the main target buyers?

For Street, travel, casual EDC... I don't think I need an MF camera with 102 MP with no IBIS ( given I don't bring tripod most of the time)

For portraiture, if it has to be MF camera, the interchangeable lens MF cameras will serve the purpose much better.

For landscape, commercial, action shooting this is not the best choice without a question..

I really want to buy this camera ... Just can't find a good reason yet.
Click to expand...
MF quality in a portable and lightweight format (but not too small) is attractive to professional and semi-pro photographers.

Price is very reasonable compared to Hasselblad.

It has a number of useful features as well, fast flash sync, leaf shutter, ND filter, excellent user interface with fast access to crop modes, aspect ratios and film simulations.

Click to expand...
But does it make more sense for a pro or semi-pro to opt for the interchangeable bodies? Isn't that fixed lens a limiting factor for pro/ semipro work regarding the prospective, FOV, and IQ. Also what genre of photography or operation style is this camera absolutely best for? To me, I just can't think of any...

I wonder why Fuji did not continue developing the GFX XXR line instead? Isn't that line more practical and flexible for pros and semi-pro whose works require MF sensor?
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Minimal size and weight and superior image quality seem to be high priority and makes it compete with Leica Q, and even Hasselblad, still being cheaper.
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Okay. I understand the size and weight thing. But talking about IQ... why not having a ILC RF style body so user can maintain the IQ for all focal length choice while able to keep the size /weight in check when needed. And 100MP sensor is not an exclusive feature for a fixed lens camera.
MKenna said:
100MP makes digital crop more usable.
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That is true. But for non-pro users like most people including myself, 100MP is overkill. And it just adds more burden to the computer in term of storage space, RAM and processing power in editing. Also, I don't know how many people are really into buying an ultra high MP camera mainly for shooting in digital crop modes. My experience with Q2 is... I appreciate its 35mm digital crop still gives me 30MP but I rarely use it. If I have to crop, I will do it in post.
MKenna said:
Pros have more than one camera, and this could be a perfect second body for some, including myself. I would use it for just about anything except sports and action.
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I understand. Even I am not a pro, I have multiple bodies for different situations and needs. Personally, I just don't see why I need to buy this one when my cameras cover my use cases well.

I might not have the reason yet, but I am sure this can be a fun camera to others. So, please come back and share your journey with this camera here.

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/183079213@N06/
 
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jonikon said:
Too big and too expensive for what it is. No IBIS and relatively small aperture lens. No Function dial. You would think Fujifilm would have least included a built in flash for fill flash in harsh lighting. Even my old Nikon Coolpix A has a built in flash which I have used for fill flash outdoors to brighten shaded faces. I think the height gives the camera a disproportionate look which makes it ugly and not pocketable. I don't think Fujifilm will sell many of these The GFX100RF concept is all wrong for a "compact" fixed lens camera. Anyone with more sense than cents would go for a MF ILC with IBIS instead of this monstrosity. IMO the GFX100RF will be Fujifilm's version of the Ford Edsel. Ugly, overpriced, and not what the consumers want.
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You don’t want it. But that is not necessarily any indication of other people’s needs and wishes. I happen to disagree with most of your subjective and negative statements (e.g. ugly) and assumptions about it. Who doesn’t have a flashgun or two already, or is happy to add one if required. Hardly a dealbreaker since few of Fuji’s cameras have a built-in flash, and I suspect GFX users are more likely to use studio flash.

My opinions carry no more weight than yours. Except that I’m not making predictions about overall market response, and commercial success or failure based on my own preferences. Similar to film sim dials on X Mount. Fujirumors claims a large number of pre-orders for this latest GFX offering. I haven’t the money to buy this interesting camera, but I do understand Fuji’s logic in developing and launching it. I think it will satisfy a significant niche market regardless of whether I want it or not. Same as X-T50, X-M5 etc. It’s been said before, including the recent interview with Fujifilm managers, they are making cameras to appeal to different users, and their products will never appeal to everyone.
 
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Robert A said:
For me, the main issue is having only one focal length for $5,000. If I jumped into MF, I'd want some flexibility with lens choice.
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The large sensor and digital zoom gives 4 effective focal lengths. The aspect ratio dial (physical dial) gives immediate access to a wide range of framing options.
 
This seems an interesting camera and something I could see myself having a huge amount of fun with. If money weren't a consideration, I would definitely consider it.

However, money is a consideration and the question posed by the OP was 'will you buy a GFX100RF' (and not would you like to have it) as such, there are several things I would consider before spending the amount of money on this camera. If I wanted MF, I'd go for an ILC first.

Having said that, I can understand that there will be some out there for whom this camera meets their needs and the asking price will be worth it.
 
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