Everyday Carry / Street Camera

FreFoto68 said:

You're probably right, of course, but I was thinking size/weight are somewhat relative...And coming from a D850, either an X-t5 or an Zf seem to much smaller/lighter.

I got some good stuff with my old CyberShot for that matter. I guess I'm looking for something in that sweet spot that still seems like a "real camera" with a viewfinder...and maybe even interchangeable lenses.

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As a user of Leica SL3 I have had GRiii as my main pocket camera.

Some months ago I added a X-T5 (and later a X100vi).

The X-T5+lenses feels considerable lighter than the SL3+lenses, so you will feel quite a difference compared to your big Nikon.

XT-5 is a fun camera for me with the analog dials. I first wanted small lenses, but ended with the faster primes after reaing all the stuff in the internet, in order to get better IQ and smoothe bokeh. Still lenses like the 23 or 33/1.4 are much smaller than comparable fullframe counterparts. Same if valid if you compare the 11-24 to a comparable full frame lens. I now carry a combo of x-t5, most often 11-24/33/90 in a pretty compact bag.

In regards of X-T5 vs X100 - The X100 is slimmer and I like the OVF.

But the x-t5 has a better grip and is much more flexible, it is not particular big anyways.

I often both but for some reason I seem to bring the X-T5 with 2 or 3 lenses more oftne at the moment than the X100.

The X100vi feels more solid/metal than the x-t5.

That's exactly what I do. I use a 16mm f2.8 and 50mm f2.0 with an X-T5 when I want small.

get a Ricoh GR 33 You get the choice between 28mm or a body with 40mm I have a body with 28mm. It gives photos with same IQ than my Fuji XH2s. There are a lot od reviews on the web, this will help you to decide if it is a camera for you or not.

(AF in very dim light so-so, no WR, no tilt screen/ BUT superb lens and sensor, very good UI with a lot ofcustomization possibilities, excellent built, discretion, pocketable)

X100vi, would be my recommendation. In-built flash and ND filter are great features. Get a case, and you stuff the camera in any bag and most large pockets.

I had the X-T5, but sold it along with most of my X gear…I still have an X-T2 with a couple of lenses. The X-T5 is by far the most enjoyable and fun camera that I have ever used, and it makes great images. The implementation of the dials, button location, etc in a small form factor is 2nd to none IMO. There are plenty of small prime options to pair with that easily make it an every day carry for me, others obviously not, only you will know…the X-100vi is a great camera, but the single lens option is too limiting for me (and I would choose Q3 if went that route), the X-T50 might be worth considering as well. I would definitely stick with the 40MP sensor.

Hope this helps…Rod

RodandEva said:

I had the X-T5, but sold it along with most of my X gear…I still have an X-T2 with a couple of lenses. The X-T5 is by far the most enjoyable and fun camera that I have ever used, and it makes great images. The implementation of the dials, button location, etc in a small form factor is 2nd to none IMO. There are plenty of small prime options to pair with that easily make it an every day carry for me, others obviously not, only you will know…the X-100vi is a great camera, but the single lens option is too limiting for me (and I would choose Q3 if went that route), the X-T50 might be worth considering as well. I would definitely stick with the 40MP sensor.

Hope this helps…Rod

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Rod, why did you sell the x-t5 if it worked that well for you?

The XT30ii with the 27 or 35mm lens might be the right solution here, if you can find one. It's cheaper than the XT50 or X100vi and you wouldn't have to give up a viewfinder like you would with the XM5.

FreFoto68 said:

Hey everyone.

New member.

Hope this hasn't been done to death, but I currently shoot a Nikon D850. Love the camera, but it's a beast. I'm looking for a something more compact - an everyday carry camera, maybe a travel camera, and something that would be more inconspicuous when I want to shoot street.

I like the looks of the X100VI, but am put off by the long wait and the fixed lens. Wondering if the X-T5 is small enough, esp. compared to my current camera, to suit my needs.

Thoughts?

I was also reading about Zf, but leaning toward the X-T5 because it seems to have implemented the retro vibe with the dials in a more logical manner. Also like the idea of lenses with aperture rings, among other things.

Thanks,

Al

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Another very interesting option for small, light but very capable camera is the A7C2

Frefoto68

I went from being a longtime Nikon user with D7000 and D500 with 2.8 series glass (17-55 + 70-200) to xpro1 and now on the XT5 with latest 16-55 and other fujicrons and zooms. In fact I own most lenses in the system except for 200 and 500mm primes.

Believe me when I say I wanted to stay Nikon with the Z series and they are undoubtedly good cameras. I have a supportive partner and financial means to swap so thought long and hard swapping to the ZF with 24-120, 100-400, 14-30 and a bag if their 1.8 primes but after going into the store and looking at the package weight I decided to stay Fuji.

This is going to be a biased sub-forum, post the same thing in Nikon. People will stay in their camp especially after money sunk into a system and the average punter won't own multiple systems outside of forum land.

In short, go to the store and hold and use them. I could have swapped to Nikon but found out I was happier staying with Fuji.

TravellerJim said:

Frefoto68

I went from being a longtime Nikon user with D7000 and D500 with 2.8 series glass (17-55 + 70-200) to xpro1 and now on the XT5 with latest 16-55 and other fujicrons and zooms. In fact I own most lenses in the system except for 200 and 500mm primes.

Believe me when I say I wanted to stay Nikon with the Z series and they are undoubtedly good cameras. I have a supportive partner and financial means to swap so thought long and hard swapping to the ZF with 24-120, 100-400, 14-30 and a bag if their 1.8 primes but after going into the store and looking at the package weight I decided to stay Fuji.

This is going to be a biased sub-forum, post the same thing in Nikon. People will stay in their camp especially after money sunk into a system and the average punter won't own multiple systems outside of forum land.

In short, go to the store and hold and use them. I could have swapped to Nikon but found out I was happier staying with Fuji.

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I'm a Zf user with a 24-120 and a 50 1.8, but I recommended the XT30ii to my partner because of the small weight and relative lack of compromise when it comes to features. The compactness and weight advantage of Fuji really has to be seen/felt to appreciated. I love the Zf, but it's so much bigger, and all the lenses are huge except the 26mm prime.

When I was shopping last year, Fuji was fully in the throes of the autofocus controversy, so I didn't want to buy an X-S20 and then find that I was missing shots that seemed fine in-camera. That tipped the scales to the Zf for me. Now that the AF issue seems mostly resolved, I think often that I'd have probably really loved the X-S20.

TravellerJim said:

Frefoto68

This is going to be a biased sub-forum, post the same thing in Nikon. People will stay in their camp especially after money sunk into a system and the average punter won't own multiple systems outside of forum land.

In short, go to the store and hold and use them. I could have swapped to Nikon but found out I was happier staying with Fuji.

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This is great advice. People get very tribal and hyperbolic about gear, probably to justify their own purchases. Cameras are very personal so you need to see what works for you.

I was strongly considering switching to Sony based on all the negative Fuji comments I saw flying around, and undoubtedly I'd enjoy shooting a Sony camera. However, I needed to remind myself that I do enjoy my Fuji setup. I have committed to the system with an X-T5 upgrade because its features and ergonomics work for me.

musicshootr said:

musicshootr wrote

I'm a Zf user with a 24-120 and a 50 1.8, but I recommended the XT30ii to my partner because of the small weight and relative lack of compromise when it comes to features. The compactness and weight advantage of Fuji really has to be seen/felt to appreciated. I love the Zf, but it's so much bigger, and all the lenses are huge except the 26mm prime.

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The above about the partner is so important! Even though it's predominantly my camera my partner does like using the camera from time to time. I asked her to hold my XT5 and 16-55ii that I brought in and the ZF with 24-70 f4 and she said she liked how the Fuji felt in the hand and understood how to use it. Settled it for me.

Funnily enough I wanted a Leica for years. Was loaned a M11 for a day by a family friend with 35mm 1.4. The experience wasn't what I hoped it up to be and realised I couldn't hand it to the average punter to take a photo of me and friends and realised it wasn't for me.

You realise the longer you stay in this hobby....just get what makes you want to go out and use it. I kinda get the older blokes in photography that end up in a one camera + one lens scenario. They had financial means to get all the gear and tried all types of systems and photography types but realised at the end they just need something simple and intuitive.

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RodandEva said:

I had the X-T5, but sold it along with most of my X gear…I still have an X-T2 with a couple of lenses. The X-T5 is by far the most enjoyable and fun camera that I have ever used, and it makes great images. The implementation of the dials, button location, etc in a small form factor is 2nd to none IMO. There are plenty of small prime options to pair with that easily make it an every day carry for me, others obviously not, only you will know…the X-100vi is a great camera, but the single lens option is too limiting for me (and I would choose Q3 if went that route), the X-T50 might be worth considering as well. I would definitely stick with the 40MP sensor.

Hope this helps…Rod

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Rod, why did you sell the x-t5 if it worked that well for you?

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I wanted to give Leica SL3 a go and could not justify keeping both systems. Also, always felt like I was missing something in image quality on APSC especially compared to medium format, and wanted something that would get me closer without bulk and weight penalty of medium format. Yes, the SL3 is not a small camera, but pairing with small primes makes it very manageable. All that said, looking back, the X-T5 packs a big punch in a small package…and the retro design is my favorite. And, it was nice that I could add a grip with an L bracket for landscape shooting or take grip off / add small prime for discrete grab and go, fuji 23 f/2 or 27 pancake. And, I just like trying new gear.

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FreFoto68 said:

You're probably right, of course, but I was thinking size/weight are somewhat relative...And coming from a D850, either an X-t5 or an Zf seem to much smaller/lighter.

I got some good stuff with my old CyberShot for that matter. I guess I'm looking for something in that sweet spot that still seems like a "real camera" with a viewfinder...and maybe even interchangeable lenses.

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As a user of Leica SL3 I have had GRiii as my main pocket camera.

Some months ago I added a X-T5 (and later a X100vi).

The X-T5+lenses feels considerable lighter than the SL3+lenses, so you will feel quite a difference compared to your big Nikon.

XT-5 is a fun camera for me with the analog dials. I first wanted small lenses, but ended with the faster primes after reaing all the stuff in the internet, in order to get better IQ and smoothe bokeh. Still lenses like the 23 or 33/1.4 are much smaller than comparable fullframe counterparts.

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Not really if you count equivalence (and you should). FF 35 and 50mm f/2 lenses are smaller than the Fuji 23 or 33mm f/1.4 lenses.

paratom said:

Same if valid if you compare the 11-24 to a comparable full frame lens. I now carry a combo of x-t5, most often 11-24/33/90 in a pretty compact bag.

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I suppose you mean the 10-24mm f/4. No real FF equivalent lens as it would be a 15-36mm f/5.6.

In essence, your X-T5 setup is considerably lighter because you're giving up on some light gathering abilities. And there's nothing wrong with that.