“Reducing” camera functionality to comply with EU/UK legislation

The Common Charger Directive was not transposed into U.K. law.
Yet - https://www.gov.uk/government/calls...rger-for-electrical-devices-call-for-evidence
It is therefore still OK to sell devices with non USBC connectors in the U.K.

OPSS opened a consultation in October 2024 on the possibility of similar laws across the U.K. legal systems.

Andrew
You could be absolutely right. But in the SX740HS lite poste over at the powershot forum someone claimed that he had check with Canon what the differences are between the regular SX740 HS and the lite edition and Canon replied that ist was only the removal of the usb charging to comply with EU/UK regulations.

Re: New PowerShot SX740 HS LITE EDITION ?: Canon PowerShot Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review
 
In case nobody noticed, all the devices we buy are made with the cheapest possible components.
The cheapest possible but not the cheapest available. If they would do that a product could malfunction before the warrantee is over. Also if a manufacturer produces bad products because of cheap components it could cost them there reputation.
So if a camera manufacturer can save $20 total cost by not changing the usb port on a camera model without losing sales, they'il do it. That's $20 saved for the investors.
I doubt that it will be that much but agreed.
On the other side, consumers aren't much better either. If Canon would make the perfect camera today and sell it for $500, they would be making the same profit they would be making of they produce the average $500 camera actually being sold, because consumers can't identify quality and can't appreciate it either, unless they see ads convincing them that the product they bought is top quality.
I cannot speak for everyone but if Canon would release a new Powershot I will be verry hesitant to buy it. Due to what i have experienced the last few years.
Also, regardless of the product itself, many consumers expect an "update" in 24 months, because the western mentality in the last 100 century has been "if it's older, it's no good".
I still go and look for the latest and newest products often to find out that what i already have is better than the latest product.

The "if it's older, it's no good" is not something of the last century its something of the last 20 to 30 years. Before that people bought quality goods that would last them a lifetime.
Basically, even if an OEM tried to produce a great product, it wouldn't be appreciated, so why bother? Give the people what they want, which is throwaway products at a very high price, which are still considered cheap because the price ends in .99 cents, and whatever sum you put in front of the 99 cents must be a bargain, no exceptions.
I can really appreciate a good product and I more and more demand good products and if I see that the quality of a manufacturer degrades i just won't buy there stuff any more.
 
The Common Charger Directive was not transposed into U.K. law. It is therefore still OK to sell devices with non USBC connectors in the U.K.

OPSS opened a consultation in October 2024 on the possibility of similar laws across the U.K. legal systems.

Andrew
You could be absolutely right. But in the SX740HS lite poste over at the powershot forum someone claimed that he had check with Canon what the differences are between the regular SX740 HS and the lite edition and Canon replied that ist was only the removal of the usb charging to comply with EU/UK regulations.

Re: New PowerShot SX740 HS LITE EDITION ?: Canon PowerShot Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review
They were misinformed. I checked on the gov.UK website. I’ve done some work for OPSS, so I know how to navigate the rules and how transposition works.

Probably importers will play it safe rather than check the law, but not all of them.

A lot of U.K. law was inherited from EU law at the time of Brexit, by a very complicated Act. Anything already transposed from a Directive was already primary U.K. law but Regulations had to be enacted (or ignored). The 3 legal systems of the U.K. and the situation in Northern Ireland made it complicated. The status of non-compliant stock in Northern Ireland on 1st Jan 2025 would need a lawyer to untangle.

Andrew
 
I would never want to charge the batteries in a camera where there was an external charger available. An external charger is a much better solution - charge one battery while using the camera with a different battery.
I was recently shooting an event on a cold day. I was using 2 cameras and had 5 batteries. Usually 3 batteries last me a full day. In this situation, with the cold, I was down to 10% on the last battery when we had a 2h break.

So, one battery on the dedicated charger and two batteries on each camera charging via USB-C.

I usually use the chargers, but I'm glad I had the USB charging on that day.
 
The Common Charger Directive was not transposed into U.K. law.
Yet - https://www.gov.uk/government/calls...rger-for-electrical-devices-call-for-evidence
It is therefore still OK to sell devices with non USBC connectors in the U.K.

OPSS opened a consultation in October 2024 on the possibility of similar laws across the U.K. legal systems.

Andrew
You could be absolutely right. But in the SX740HS lite poste over at the powershot forum someone claimed that he had check with Canon what the differences are between the regular SX740 HS and the lite edition and Canon replied that ist was only the removal of the usb charging to comply with EU/UK regulations.

Re: New PowerShot SX740 HS LITE EDITION ?: Canon PowerShot Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review
Did you read my post all the way through?

:)
 
The Common Charger Directive was not transposed into U.K. law.
Yet - https://www.gov.uk/government/calls...rger-for-electrical-devices-call-for-evidence
It is therefore still OK to sell devices with non USBC connectors in the U.K.

OPSS opened a consultation in October 2024 on the possibility of similar laws across the U.K. legal systems.

Andrew
You could be absolutely right. But in the SX740HS lite poste over at the powershot forum someone claimed that he had check with Canon what the differences are between the regular SX740 HS and the lite edition and Canon replied that ist was only the removal of the usb charging to comply with EU/UK regulations.

Re: New PowerShot SX740 HS LITE EDITION ?: Canon PowerShot Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review
Did you read my post all the way through?

:)
Yes, I was meaning that it will become UK law (since why would you not want it to be - nobody is going to care to make UK only devices)
 
I never transfer data over cables unless I have to - I always remove the cards to copy them onto the PC, so I suppose I’m thinking the same with the battery.
You must be using a laptop with SD cards. Desktop PC computers do not have card readers attached to the motherboards. A cable is necessary to connect the card reader or camera to the motherboard.
 
I never transfer data over cables unless I have to - I always remove the cards to copy them onto the PC, so I suppose I’m thinking the same with the battery.
You must be using a laptop with SD cards. Desktop PC computers do not have card readers attached to the motherboards. A cable is necessary to connect the card reader or camera to the motherboard.
Wow. That's some extreme literalism. Anyway, he did say unless he has to, so he's covered.
 
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I never transfer data over cables unless I have to - I always remove the cards to copy them onto the PC, so I suppose I’m thinking the same with the battery.
You must be using a laptop with SD cards. Desktop PC computers do not have card readers attached to the motherboards. A cable is necessary to connect the card reader or camera to the motherboard.
OK, I’ll rewrite :-)

“I never transfer data over cables between the camera and PC unless I have to - I always remove the cards to copy them onto the PC, so I suppose I’m thinking the same with the battery.”
 
I would never want to charge the batteries in a camera where there was an external charger available. An external charger is a much better solution - charge one battery while using the camera with a different battery.
For my casual-use camera, I just plug it into the computer, offload the photos, and wait until it's charged before unplugging. I don't see a point in removing the battery or memory cards.
I never transfer data over cables unless I have to - I always remove the cards to copy them onto the PC, so I suppose I’m thinking the same with the battery.
I don't see the point -- higher chance I'll forget to put the card back, more risk to damage to the card, one more step in the process. For me it's just one connection to the camera and it's both charged and uploaded.
Having had a camera with a dodgy USB port, not discovered until I wanted to use Nikon's Camera Control Pro software, I have a healthy disdain for downloading images via cable. Older miniature USB ports are too easily damaged. I have always used a card reader to transfer data. Forgetting to put the card back? I suppose it is possible but after 20 years of removing the card, downloading the images and putting it back in the camera I don't see that as a problem.

Likewise I would never charge a battery in a camera, it represents an unnecessary risk. Li-Ion battery fires might be rare but they do happen. I'd rather have to replace a charger than a camera.
 
I never transfer data over cables unless I have to - I always remove the cards to copy them onto the PC, so I suppose I’m thinking the same with the battery.
You must be using a laptop with SD cards. Desktop PC computers do not have card readers attached to the motherboards. A cable is necessary to connect the card reader or camera to the motherboard.
The card reader takes up way less space at my computer workstation than the camera does. And it's faster too.
 
I never transfer data over cables unless I have to - I always remove the cards to copy them onto the PC, so I suppose I’m thinking the same with the battery.
You must be using a laptop with SD cards. Desktop PC computers do not have card readers attached to the motherboards. A cable is necessary to connect the card reader or camera to the motherboard.
LOL, I can't believe you took that so literally! 😉
 
We live in times of an endless reduction but I can feel the winds of change are definitely picking up.
 
I would never want to charge the batteries in a camera where there was an external charger available. An external charger is a much better solution - charge one battery while using the camera with a different battery.
Next time someone on dpreview complains about a camera not being supplied with a separate battery charger, i will reply that a battery charger is not in necessary because I never use one.
And then its battery gets stuck in camera because it expanded too much during charging/discharging cycle. This is a very realistic possibility with older cameras, except for maybe Hasselblad H.
 
I would never want to charge the batteries in a camera where there was an external charger available. An external charger is a much better solution - charge one battery while using the camera with a different battery.
Next time someone on dpreview complains about a camera not being supplied with a separate battery charger, i will reply that a battery charger is not in necessary because I never use one.
If someone prefers to charge their batteries with a charger, then having to pay extra for one to use their preferred method is a legitimate complaint.

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Tom
 
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