Afternoon photo walk with Lumix S1RII

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I am usually a RAW shooter but i also love shoot in JPG sometimes and try to get it right in camera without doing any editing. It's a different kind of fun/challenge.

Here are some photos I shot one afternoon/evening with the Lumix S1RII. All photos are SOOC JPG colour graded using Real Time LUT.

The LUT I used is "Autumn" that I grabbed from Lumix Lab app.

All photos were shot handheld including the photos shot at 2 seconds shutter speed. I was amazed by how easy it was to get sharp photos at 2-second shutter speed without having to lean on anything.




Lumix S1RII | Lumix S Pro 50 f/1.4 | ISO 80 f/4.5 1/640s


Lumix S1RII | Lumix S Pro 50 f/1.4 | ISO 80 f/3.5 1/2500s


Lumix S1RII | Lumix S Pro 70-200 f/4 | ISO 80 f/4 1/800s




Lumix S1RII | Lumix S Pro 70-200 f/4 | ISO 80 f/6.3 1/2000s


Lumix S1RII | Lumix S Pro 70-200 f/4 | ISO 80 f/10 2s


Lumix S1RII | Lumix S Pro 50 f/1.4 | ISO 80 f/16 2s


Lumix S1RII | Lumix S Pro 50 f/1.4 | ISO 20000 f/3.2 1/60s


Lumix S1RII | Lumix S Pro 50 f/1.4 | ISO 4000 f/3.5 1/60s
 

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Nice set of photos! The S1Rii results are looking good. And I enjoyed your very detailed review of the S1Rii on YT.

I haven't run in to any limitations with my two S5iiX's yet for video and I am even happy with the 24mp stills, especially the jpg's, which I usually don't even shoot with my other cameras. I'll probably hold off on the S1Rii for a while longer. But I've said that many times in the past and caved pretty quickly, LOL.

Keep up the good work.

Joe L
 
@richard_wong Thanks so much for continuing to post about this camera and for your thorough coverage on YT (I've liked and subscribed).

Coming from an S1 and very much a hybrid shooter professionally, could you say a bit more about your experience with the RAW files performance?

I watched your comprehensive review and rewatched the section on dynamic range and boosting exposure by seven and eight stops just this morning. I am curious how the shadows compare to the S5II when raised by four and five stops. In the event and documentation work that I do, I regularly need to get four stops out of the shadows while protecting highlights in other areas of the frame. The S1 can handle this well. Very curious about the S1RII in this scenerio rather than in the extremes of 7+ stops.

Thank you!
 
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Thanks for your long video review on YT. I liked it.

The camera is a significant step forward for Panasonic. I like that they stuck with a non-stacked sensor to keep the cost low. The colors are great. I'll be happier when they add HEIF output! :)

These photos are on the darker side for my taste. Did you intentionally shoot them that way? I can understand the late evening shots but one or two seem to be daytime shots as well.

Thanks again.
 
Nice set of photos! The S1Rii results are looking good. And I enjoyed your very detailed review of the S1Rii on YT.

I haven't run in to any limitations with my two S5iiX's yet for video and I am even happy with the 24mp stills, especially the jpg's, which I usually don't even shoot with my other cameras. I'll probably hold off on the S1Rii for a while longer. But I've said that many times in the past and caved pretty quickly, LOL.
Hey Joe,

thank you! If you don't need the high resolution or the higher video frame rate, the S5IIx is still an excellent camera!

The S5IIx sensor maybe not the latest, but I'm still very impressed by it's image quality.

But haha yeah you may not need a new camera but one may somehow still appear on your desk
 
@richard_wong Thanks so much for continuing to post about this camera and for your thorough coverage on YT (I've liked and subscribed).

Coming from an S1 and very much a hybrid shooter professionally, could you say a bit more about your experience with the RAW files performance?

I watched your comprehensive review and rewatched the section on dynamic range and boosting exposure by seven and eight stops just this morning. I am curious how the shadows compare to the S5II when raised by four and five stops. In the event and documentation work that I do, I regularly need to get four stops out of the shadows while protecting highlights in other areas of the frame. The S1 can handle this well. Very curious about the S1RII in this scenerio rather than in the extremes of 7+ stops.

Thank you!
Thank you Walter! Glad you enjoyed my videos :)

To be honest, creating this 110 minutes review really exhausted me. I like to make sure things I said in the review are all based on my own tests as fair as possible. And I can show you test results to backup what I said. My engineering background also forced me to test things in certain way which means I may need to do hours of testing to show you one little graph that I only talked about for 30 seconds in my review.

Anyway, if you want to push "only" 4 stops, the S1RII should perform very similarly to the S5II. Any difference would be so small that is very hard to notice in real world.

The S1RII performs much better than the S1R in this area, probably the best high-resolution sensor in the market right now among all that I've used / tested. Better than my A7CR.
 
Thanks for your long video review on YT. I liked it.

The camera is a significant step forward for Panasonic. I like that they stuck with a non-stacked sensor to keep the cost low. The colors are great. I'll be happier when they add HEIF output! :)

These photos are on the darker side for my taste. Did you intentionally shoot them that way? I can understand the late evening shots but one or two seem to be daytime shots as well.
Yes some of the photos are a bit too dark, but for this set of photos, i just like to keep them unedited.

But in general for photos like these, i do prefer to underexpose slightly to adds a bit of mood and bring out the colours a bit better.
 
Thanks for your long video review on YT. I liked it.

The camera is a significant step forward for Panasonic. I like that they stuck with a non-stacked sensor to keep the cost low. The colors are great. I'll be happier when they add HEIF output! :)

These photos are on the darker side for my taste. Did you intentionally shoot them that way? I can understand the late evening shots but one or two seem to be daytime shots as well.
Yes some of the photos are a bit too dark, but for this set of photos, i just like to keep them unedited.

But in general for photos like these, i do prefer to underexpose slightly to adds a bit of mood and bring out the colours a bit better.
Thanks, Richard.
 
The LUT I used is "Autumn" that I grabbed from Lumix Lab app.
Great photos, thanks for sharing! Just out of curiosity, where did you see this LUT in Lumix Lab? I see a short list with entirely different names.
 
All photos were shot handheld including the photos shot at 2 seconds shutter speed. I was amazed by how easy it was to get sharp photos at 2-second shutter speed without having to lean on anything.


Lumix S1RII | Lumix S Pro 70-200 f/4 | ISO 80 f/10 2s


Lumix S1RII | Lumix S Pro 50 f/1.4 | ISO 80 f/16 2s
Thanks Richard for these as well as your video, always enjoy your detailed comparisons, much appreciated!! Just curious...how do you get 2s handheld, is that something the S1Rii helps with or just proper training? :D I mean at 50mm etc...they look great and sharp, how?! I'd say I have steady hands but I don't think I get 2s photos that nice.

Thanks,
Peter
 
The LUT I used is "Autumn" that I grabbed from Lumix Lab app.
Great photos, thanks for sharing! Just out of curiosity, where did you see this LUT in Lumix Lab? I see a short list with entirely different names.
It’s one of four by rossandhisjpegs - you can access them, by clicking on the Creator tab or going into the Still section (all of his are at the top).
 
All photos were shot handheld including the photos shot at 2 seconds shutter speed. I was amazed by how easy it was to get sharp photos at 2-second shutter speed without having to lean on anything.


Lumix S1RII | Lumix S Pro 70-200 f/4 | ISO 80 f/10 2s


Lumix S1RII | Lumix S Pro 50 f/1.4 | ISO 80 f/16 2s
Thanks Richard for these as well as your video, always enjoy your detailed comparisons, much appreciated!! Just curious...how do you get 2s handheld, is that something the S1Rii helps with or just proper training? :D I mean at 50mm etc...they look great and sharp, how?! I'd say I have steady hands but I don't think I get 2s photos that nice.
Thanks,
Peter
I agree, most impressive yet there is the rolling shutter drama when this is more important. Amazing 😍
 
Thank you very much! I must be blind, didn't even see that section. Got it now!
 
Hello Richard,

I'm a fan of your work. So thank you for your hard work, which is very instructive.
Unfortunately, I had to part with my DC-S1R because of the digital noise generated between 125 and 400 Iso. This feeling was confirmed by the work of “Photons to photos”. Not that it's bad, but the dynamic range it seemed to offer wasn't there, with shadows that were rather difficult to unblur. I took some excellent photos at 100 Iso with 40x60 cm prints, but use beyond 1600 iso really showed me the sensor's processing limits. So I stuck with the DC-S1, more versatile in all circumstances. Nevertheless, for 40x60cm prints at 300dpi, you theoretically need a sensor of at least 34mp. There are excellent software programs like GP, but it's not quite the same. Of course, you can shoot 40x60cm with a 24Mp sensor without having your nose glued to the print, and it looks just fine... A 40 MP sensor also makes cropping easier, for prints at the right resolution.
Nevertheless, the interest of large sensors for me lies in the improvement of gray tones vs. digital noise at low Iso. I find that the DC-S1RII, according to your presentation, seems the ideal camera for my photographic needs. The Leica SL3 seems even better, but the price is still exorbitant. For my needs, the Pentax K1 remains the best camera (DSLR) ever made, given its dynamic range over a wide sensitivity range.

Last but not least, if I buy the DC-S1RII, I'll have to change hardware (MacPro 5.1 DxO PL7 Opencore Monterey), because DxO PL8 doesn't work. What advice could you give me based on your experience and tests?

Best regards,

teiki.

PS: I think I'll wait another couple of years before taking the plunge, until my finances allow me to do so. Take a second-hand SL3 and stay with my current equipment, or take a DC-S1RII combined with a Mac mini M4 pro...
 
The LUT I used is "Autumn" that I grabbed from Lumix Lab app.
Great photos, thanks for sharing! Just out of curiosity, where did you see this LUT in Lumix Lab? I see a short list with entirely different names.
Sorry about the late reply, it's from Lumix Lab, I think I went into the Still category, and it's one of the LUT at the very top of the page.
 
Thanks Richard for these as well as your video, always enjoy your detailed comparisons, much appreciated!! Just curious...how do you get 2s handheld, is that something the S1Rii helps with or just proper training? :D I mean at 50mm etc...they look great and sharp, how?! I'd say I have steady hands but I don't think I get 2s photos that nice.
Thanks,
Peter
Thanks Peter!

I definitely don't have proper training haha and I don't have a very steady hand.

S1RII's IBIS is really good! I started with 1/2s.. then I noticed all the photos were sharp, then tried 1s, nearly all the photos were sharp, then finally tried 2s. And surprisingly, most of the photos were sharp too.

i wasn't leaning on anything either. Just standing there.
 
Hi teiki,

thank you for your support!

The S1RII image quality is much better than the S1R. That's from both shooting real world photos, and comparing the raw files with the S1R by pushing them way more than what normal people would do. Right now, I think the S1RII's sensor delivers the best image quality compared to all the other full-frame high resolution/APSC cameras in the market.

(I have a Sony A7CR and a Fujifilm XH2 myself.)

if you have to wait a few years, then it maybe a bit early to give you any suggestions, as camera / computer changes quickly. But feel free to send me a email if you want to chat more ! You can find my email address from my Youtube channel :)

Richard

Hello Richard,

I'm a fan of your work. So thank you for your hard work, which is very instructive.
Unfortunately, I had to part with my DC-S1R because of the digital noise generated between 125 and 400 Iso. This feeling was confirmed by the work of “Photons to photos”. Not that it's bad, but the dynamic range it seemed to offer wasn't there, with shadows that were rather difficult to unblur. I took some excellent photos at 100 Iso with 40x60 cm prints, but use beyond 1600 iso really showed me the sensor's processing limits. So I stuck with the DC-S1, more versatile in all circumstances. Nevertheless, for 40x60cm prints at 300dpi, you theoretically need a sensor of at least 34mp. There are excellent software programs like GP, but it's not quite the same. Of course, you can shoot 40x60cm with a 24Mp sensor without having your nose glued to the print, and it looks just fine... A 40 MP sensor also makes cropping easier, for prints at the right resolution.
Nevertheless, the interest of large sensors for me lies in the improvement of gray tones vs. digital noise at low Iso. I find that the DC-S1RII, according to your presentation, seems the ideal camera for my photographic needs. The Leica SL3 seems even better, but the price is still exorbitant. For my needs, the Pentax K1 remains the best camera (DSLR) ever made, given its dynamic range over a wide sensitivity range.

Last but not least, if I buy the DC-S1RII, I'll have to change hardware (MacPro 5.1 DxO PL7 Opencore Monterey), because DxO PL8 doesn't work. What advice could you give me based on your experience and tests?

Best regards,

teiki.

PS: I think I'll wait another couple of years before taking the plunge, until my finances allow me to do so. Take a second-hand SL3 and stay with my current equipment, or take a DC-S1RII combined with a Mac mini M4 pro...
 
Thank you, a fellow dpreviewer pointed me in the right direction already. The new app is so much fun to use, night and day from the old and clunky Lumix Sync!
 
I see you used the Panasonic 70-200mm f/4 lens in some of your images. I'm thinking of buying this lens for my S5IIX I purchased. IF you could share with me what you think of the lens. Image quality, speed of focusing and BIS. Right now at B&H has it for $997.00, it's driving me crazy at that price ;-)
 

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