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Sigma I-Series lenses in Silver
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floyd_of_oz
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Yes correct, you'll be able to get them in black or silver. They will now also have the new Sigma typeface and logo.
The only other update is to the 45mm which will now have comparability with the magnetic lens caps.
The only other update is to the 45mm which will now have comparability with the magnetic lens caps.
findthomas
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It’s a clever move by Sigma to promote lens sales. Sigma is a lens-maker after all (the cameras are a side business).
Found this on their site:
"Silver is added to color variations for L-Mount lenses
In addition to the existing black models, a brand new silver models are added to the lineup for all nine I series L-Mount lenses. The new lineup enables photographers and filmmakers to enjoy the unique color of the I series, which is made from machined metal.
The silver and black colors of the Sigma BF camera, also announced at this time, have the same finish to match, creating a unified shooting system by combining a lens from the I series with the Sigma BF.
* Sony E-mount compatible models will continue to be available in black only."
HTH ...
findthomas
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Not sure if I will buy the BF camera, but the Silver lenses would look great on my FP
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So is Nikon . . . and Canon too, of course. I guess that means that Sony is a lens maker too. I'm sure they all sell more lenses than cameras, and I'm willing to bet the margins are higher on lenses than they are on cameras. Most photographers I know have several lenses, but only one or two camera bodies. For example, I have more than a dozen Sigma lenses, but I have only ever owned four Sigma camera bodies, and own just one working Sigma camera right now.
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saltydogstudios
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I do wonder how much of a market there will be for the silver lenses for people who don't buy a BF.So is Nikon . . . and Canon too, of course. I guess that means that Sony is a lens maker too. I'm sure they all sell more lenses than cameras, and I'm willing to bet the margins are higher on lenses than they are on cameras. Most photographers I know have several lenses, but only one or two camera bodies. For example, I have more than a dozen Sigma lenses, but I have only ever owned four Sigma camera bodies, and own just one working Sigma camera right now.
I also wonder if that means we can expect more silver cameras from Sigma...
findthomas
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Sigma makes better value for money lenses, often at near half the price of Nikon lenses or Canons. That’s probably one reason they’ve survived this long making lenses.So is Nikon . . . and Canon too, of course. I guess that means that Sony is a lens maker too. I'm sure they all sell more lenses than cameras, and I'm willing to bet the margins are higher on lenses than they are on cameras. Most photographers I know have several lenses, but only one or two camera bodies. For example, I have more than a dozen Sigma lenses, but I have only ever owned four Sigma camera bodies, and own just one working Sigma camera right now.
findthomas
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Good point!I do wonder how much of a market there will be for the silver lenses for people who don't buy a BF.So is Nikon . . . and Canon too, of course. I guess that means that Sony is a lens maker too. I'm sure they all sell more lenses than cameras, and I'm willing to bet the margins are higher on lenses than they are on cameras. Most photographers I know have several lenses, but only one or two camera bodies. For example, I have more than a dozen Sigma lenses, but I have only ever owned four Sigma camera bodies, and own just one working Sigma camera right now.
I’m half expecting the BF will be followed by another sleek silver camera next year. I guess it depends on sales volumes of the BF.
saltydogstudios
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A BF-L seems like a fairly obvious choice. Just like the fp-L there’s no need for a new body, just some new electronics.Good point!I do wonder how much of a market there will be for the silver lenses for people who don't buy a BF.So is Nikon . . . and Canon too, of course. I guess that means that Sony is a lens maker too. I'm sure they all sell more lenses than cameras, and I'm willing to bet the margins are higher on lenses than they are on cameras. Most photographers I know have several lenses, but only one or two camera bodies. For example, I have more than a dozen Sigma lenses, but I have only ever owned four Sigma camera bodies, and own just one working Sigma camera right now.
I’m half expecting the BF will be followed by another sleek silver camera next year. I guess it depends on sales volumes of the BF.
Yamaki-San signaled an SLR-style body in the not too distant future. Personally, I’ve grown a bit tired of the black SLRs. Especially when I used to shoot a lot outdoors, black seemed like the worst choice from a heat management perspective.
Not that I’m advocating for an aluminium SLR-style - grips are rubberized for a reason.
He has been somewhat consistent in his speaking about SIgma’s approach to cameras. The fp was the ultimate modular tool for video. He’s said a few times that a stills centric camera would be different and optimized for stills / aka no Foveon in an fp.
And I suspect the fp-L was testing the waters for a stills-centric camera in that form factor, which we now have with the BF.
And now he’s saying he wants an SLR style camera appropriate to their (was it) 600mm lens.
So I’m still expecting when the FFF comes out, at least one version will be an SLR style body. I don’t know that a Bayer SLR style will come out - why compete against Panasonic & Leica directly.
But what comes between the BF and and a FFF is anyone’s guess at this point. Whatever it is, I now fully expect it to win design awards. The rebrand, the BF - all signs that Sigma is moving into a more industrial design direction a-la Apple and making that their differentiator, at least when it comes to cameras.
Oh and I’m also expecting an FFF to actually perform really well. I believe the Merrill generation had issues that were addressed in firmware (not being seated completely flush with the film plane). The Quattro generation was better (and IMO I had no issues with the 4:1:1 architecture). His speaking of finding issues in each new sample speaks to high standards.
findthomas
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A Foveon FF will require a lot of processing power and possibly heat-sinking. A reasonable guess for a new Sigma FFF SLR could be something like the new Panasonic S1RII, which looks like a decent sized camera capable of handling the new Sigma 600mm lens.And now he’s saying he wants an SLR style camera appropriate to their (was it) 600mm lens.Good point!I do wonder how much of a market there will be for the silver lenses for people who don't buy a BF.So is Nikon . . . and Canon too, of course. I guess that means that Sony is a lens maker too. I'm sure they all sell more lenses than cameras, and I'm willing to bet the margins are higher on lenses than they are on cameras. Most photographers I know have several lenses, but only one or two camera bodies. For example, I have more than a dozen Sigma lenses, but I have only ever owned four Sigma camera bodies, and own just one working Sigma camera right now.
I’m half expecting the BF will be followed by another sleek silver camera next year. I guess it depends on sales volumes of the BF.
So I’m still expecting when the FFF comes out, at least one version will be an SLR style body. I don’t know that a Bayer SLR style will come out - why compete against Panasonic & Leica directly.
But what comes between the BF and and a FFF is anyone’s guess at this point. Whatever it is, I now fully expect it to win design awards. The rebrand, the BF - all signs that Sigma is moving into a more industrial design direction a-la Apple and making that their differentiator, at least when it comes to cameras.
Oh and I’m also expecting an FFF to actually perform really well. I believe the Merrill generation had issues that were addressed in firmware (not being seated completely flush with the film plane). The Quattro generation was better (and IMO I had no issues with the 4:1:1 architecture). His speaking of finding issues in each new sample speaks to high standards.
Given inflation, increased cost of living, recent tariffs, etc., a new Foveon FF could be priced at say $3500-$4000 - and there would still be buyers.
Given the many recent comments about the BF ($2000) being a great looking fashion accessory (some compared it to Leicas at above $5K), and given that Leica had a great 2024 financial year, I think your point about a design direction ala Apple is absolutely spot on.
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I have no interest in the BF in either color, and I'm very happy with my fpL. If the BF is a flop, maybe Sigma will release silver versions of the fp & fpL to go along with those new silver lenses.Not sure if I will buy the BF camera, but the Silver lenses would look great on my FP
I would guess that it's worth making a few of each lens without coating (anodizing) the parts. It's not like it would cost extra to make them that way. Even if they only make one thousand of each that's 9,000 lens sales that will make a few thousand BF owners happy. I wouldn't be surprised if Sigma sells 5,000 of those BF bodies, and a bunch of lenses to go with them. Then there's the possibility they'll sell some of their shiny silver lenses to Leica camera owners too, of course. The Panasonic S9 is available in blue, red, mint green, pink, etc. I could see someone who has one of those buying a Sigma lens just because it's available in a silver version.I do wonder how much of a market there will be for the silver lenses for people who don't buy a BF.So is Nikon . . . and Canon too, of course. I guess that means that Sony is a lens maker too. I'm sure they all sell more lenses than cameras, and I'm willing to bet the margins are higher on lenses than they are on cameras. Most photographers I know have several lenses, but only one or two camera bodies. For example, I have more than a dozen Sigma lenses, but I have only ever owned four Sigma camera bodies, and own just one working Sigma camera right now.
I also wonder if that means we can expect more silver cameras from Sigma...
I don't like the BF just because it has only a 24 MP sensor. I wish they had chosen a sensor that offered more resolution, like that sensor in the new Panasonic S1R II. I guess that would make it more expensive though, and the BF is sort of a toy, I guess. $2,000 is pretty expensive for a toy though.
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saltydogstudios
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5,000 cameras / 9 cameras a day = 555.5.... days so basically sold out for 2 years straight.I would guess that it's worth making a few of each lens without coating (anodizing) the parts. It's not like it would cost extra to make them that way. Even if they only make one thousand of each that's 9,000 lens sales that will make a few thousand BF owners happy. I wouldn't be surprised if Sigma sells 5,000 of those BF bodies, and a bunch of lenses to go with them. Then there's the possibility they'll sell some of their shiny silver lenses to Leica camera owners too, of course. The Panasonic S9 is available in blue, red, mint green, pink, etc. I could see someone who has one of those buying a Sigma lens just because it's available in a silver version.I do wonder how much of a market there will be for the silver lenses for people who don't buy a BF.So is Nikon . . . and Canon too, of course. I guess that means that Sony is a lens maker too. I'm sure they all sell more lenses than cameras, and I'm willing to bet the margins are higher on lenses than they are on cameras. Most photographers I know have several lenses, but only one or two camera bodies. For example, I have more than a dozen Sigma lenses, but I have only ever owned four Sigma camera bodies, and own just one working Sigma camera right now.
I also wonder if that means we can expect more silver cameras from Sigma...
I'd agree with that. I placed my preorder at B&H when I found out they only make 9 a day and I hope I'll get a delivery near launch date.
Personally, I prefer the wide aperture + small body of Leica M-Mount lenses and am actually getting a couple of 3rd party M-Mount lenses in silver just for the BF. Not just because they're silver, but because I want to strike the right balance between large aperture and weight.
If Sigma made a 35mm f/1.4 autofocus lens for the BF that - maybe vignetted, but was as optically good as the Zeiss Distagon and was approximately the weight of the Distagon... I'd get it.
But for me, part of the joy of photography is shooting manual lenses and selecting what I'm focusing on, which also means large apertures. Otherwise I can use my cell phone. (or a Ricoh GR) instead of an ILC.
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