Panasonic S1R II has the Sony SCC IMX 366 44 MP Sensor people were bragging about

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On front page of dpreview

8k30fps video, high resolution mode and 40 fps AFC at 12 bits

Price £2,999
 
On front page of dpreview

8k30fps video, high resolution mode and 40 fps AFC at 12 bits

Price £2,999
Yeah 40fps of jelly motion shots (more than 33ms of readout time), thanks i'd pass.
 
On front page of dpreview

8k30fps video, high resolution mode and 40 fps AFC at 12 bits

Price £2,999
Yeah 40fps of jelly motion shots (more than 33ms of readout time), thanks i'd pass.
It reads at 26 fps in 14 bits and 60 fps in 12 bits which makes it 16.67ms not 33

Either way is faster than all Sony non stacked cameras
 
Huh? I thought we now know that it's NOT a Sony sensor.
 
Huh? I thought we now know that it's NOT a Sony sensor.
Yes it is
No. It’s not.
LoL 😆 😆 😆

... at this exchane
I love when everybody in this forum is above mid 50s or 40s but still we can play fun games :p (just kidding

Returning to the topic, yes it is a fast BSI sensor, really good for film making, but sadly not a huge contender for stills (including action photography).
 
On front page of dpreview

8k30fps video, high resolution mode and 40 fps AFC at 12 bits

Price £2,999
Yeah 40fps of jelly motion shots (more than 33ms of readout time), thanks i'd pass.
It's not even possible to do 40 fps with only 33ms.
The readout rate at 14 bits is 26 fps therefore 38.3 ms however in burst the camera drops to 12 bits at it can read 60 fps at that bit depth making it 16.33ms readout

This is not a bad value I have used MFT camera with 60 fps in electronic shutter and unless you are panning like crazy the results are normally acceptable

Clearly not in the same category of the Sony A1 that has 5ms readout or the Nikon Z8/9 but more than enough for many situations
 
Huh? I thought we now know that it's NOT a Sony sensor.
Yes it is
No. It’s not.
LoL 😆 😆 😆

... at this exchane
I love when everybody in this forum is above mid 50s or 40s but still we can play fun games :p (just kidding

Returning to the topic, yes it is a fast BSI sensor, really good for film making, but sadly not a huge contender for stills (including action photography).
The sensor is great for most types of photography. It has better DR and lower noise compared to the stacked counterparts. But it's worse for very fast moving subjects, because RS can be an issue. By far not everyone is shooting very fast subjects. Even many wildlife photographers don't need that fast RS. There are even wildlife photographers, using A7RVs with much worse RS.
 
On front page of dpreview

8k30fps video, high resolution mode and 40 fps AFC at 12 bits

Price £2,999
Yeah 40fps of jelly motion shots (more than 33ms of readout time), thanks i'd pass.
It's not even possible to do 40 fps with only 33ms.
The readout rate at 14 bits is 26 fps therefore 38.3 ms however in burst the camera drops to 12 bits at it can read 60 fps at that bit depth making it 16.33ms readout

This is not a bad value I have used MFT camera with 60 fps in electronic shutter and unless you are panning like crazy the results are normally acceptable

Clearly not in the same category of the Sony A1 that has 5ms readout or the Nikon Z8/9 but more than enough for many situations
But you have to consider, 60 fps is for 16:10 aspect ratio. For 3:2, it's something between 40-50 what it theoretically can offer. According to Panasonic it's about 20 ms for 12bit and 36ms for 14bit. That's a little worse than a Canon R5 (ca. 16.4 ms for 12bit) and about the same as a Canon R6 (ca. 19.6 ms for 12bit). But better than a S5II (ca. 26.3 ms for 12bit)and much better than an Sony A7RV (ca. 50 ms for 12bit).

I think 20ms is usable even for many moving subjects, but of course it's to slow for very fast subjects.
 
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On front page of dpreview

8k30fps video, high resolution mode and 40 fps AFC at 12 bits

Price £2,999
Yeah 40fps of jelly motion shots (more than 33ms of readout time), thanks i'd pass.
It's not even possible to do 40 fps with only 33ms.
The readout rate at 14 bits is 26 fps therefore 38.3 ms however in burst the camera drops to 12 bits at it can read 60 fps at that bit depth making it 16.33ms readout

This is not a bad value I have used MFT camera with 60 fps in electronic shutter and unless you are panning like crazy the results are normally acceptable

Clearly not in the same category of the Sony A1 that has 5ms readout or the Nikon Z8/9 but more than enough for many situations
But you have to consider, 60 fps is for 16:10 aspect ratio. For 3:2, it's something between 40-50 what it theoretically can offer. According to Panasonic it's about 20 ms for 12bit and 36ms for 14bit. That's a little worse than a Canon R5 (ca. 16.4 ms for 12bit) and about the same as a Canon R6 (ca. 19.6 ms for 12bit). But better than a S5II (ca. 26.3 ms for 12bit)and much better than an Sony A7RV (ca. 50 ms for 12bit).

I think 20ms is usable even for many moving subjects, but of course it's to slow for very fast subjects.
Yes thats correct but if you put more pixels in it becomes 47 fps which is close to the 40 fps declared and rolling shutter of 21ms which is not bad at all

I agree with you 20ms is very useful in many situations and that makes this camera a good hybrid camera but perhaps not better than any other in their respective category

yes 1/4 cheaper than Nikon Z8 and likely much better dynamic range for very similar resolution

For many users the A7R III that had 42 megapixels was more than enough but read slow. Yet the sensor remains at the top index of dxomark performance hopefully this camera will also be there and being a bit faster more useful
 
What about the claims that it uses the DJI sensor from the ronin 4d? I haven't seen a datasheet, but high level specs seem similar. The DJI also uses that same "extended dynamic range" wording.
 
On front page of dpreview

8k30fps video, high resolution mode and 40 fps AFC at 12 bits

Price £2,999
Yeah 40fps of jelly motion shots (more than 33ms of readout time), thanks i'd pass.
Where did you get this figure? Several reviews mention 1/50s readout speed in photo mode (electronic shutter). That's fairly good for a high res camera. Similar to R6II and Z6III and that's with a higher resolution sensor.
 
What about the claims that it uses the DJI sensor from the ronin 4d? I haven't seen a datasheet, but high level specs seem similar. The DJI also uses that same "extended dynamic range" wording.
DJI 4D uses Sony sensor too
 
See studio images just published
 
On front page of dpreview

8k30fps video, high resolution mode and 40 fps AFC at 12 bits

Price £2,999
Yeah 40fps of jelly motion shots (more than 33ms of readout time), thanks i'd pass.
Where did you get this figure? Several reviews mention 1/50s readout speed in photo mode (electronic shutter). That's fairly good for a high res camera. Similar to R6II and Z6III and that's with a higher resolution sensor.
unless it's 12bit otherwise i don't think it can reach such speed. the imx366's specsheet has it all covered.
 

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