Ok, I guess he might have been mixing up bodies.
I see some people talking about an end of year one as well now.
edit: he again mentioned very high end but more niche which makes me doubt IMX366
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I see some people talking about an end of year one as well now.
edit: he again mentioned very high end but more niche which makes me doubt IMX366
John Crowe
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Has everyone missed the lower resolution? I have never owned a Panasonic camera, but the original S1R is very interesting indeed. I certainly don't need 40 fps, but will have to compare AF systems.
Maybe the rumour is inaccurate.
Maybe the rumour is inaccurate.
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John Vickers
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It's the same size as an S5M2. The body is clearly based on the S5M2.
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georgehudetz
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Do you mean 44 vs 47 MP? Yes, we have all noted it, but it hardly matters.
Personally, I do wish it was 60 MP, but that ship has sailed.
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Looks like an abandonment of the S1 series. Fundamentally different from the "flagship" that the S1 Series was supposed to be. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but I think it's a bit of a shame that they appear to be giving up on that vs. just positioning this as the S5R.https://www.l-rumors.com/lumix-s1rii-images-and-specs-leaked/
Lumix S1rII PRESS TEXT (deepl translated)
Panasonic introduces the Lumix S1RII, a full-frame mirrorless camera for professional photographers and videographers. The camera has a newly developed 44.3 megapixel BSI CMOS sensor and a powerful L2 processor, which together enable a high level of detail and a wide dynamic range of up to 14 f-stops. The native ISO range extends from ISO 80 to 51,200 and can be extended to ISO 40 to 102,400.
Improved autofocus and fast continuous shooting function
The phase-hybrid autofocus of the Lumix S1RII utilizes 779 focusing points and AI-supported subject recognition for people, animals, vehicles and other subjects.The camera can take continuous shots at up to 40 frames per second in electronic shutter mode – with continuous focus tracking (AF-C). A pre-burst mode saves images before the actual shutter release so that spontaneous moments are not missed.
Functions such as white balance and ISO sensitivity can be accessed directly at the top of the housing via dedicated buttons.
Optimized image stabilization and high-resolution photos
The camera has internal 5-axis image stabilization on the image sensor (IBIS), which enables compensation of up to 8 f-stops. In combination with a compatible lens and Dual I.S., up to 7 f-stops of stabilization are possible in the telephoto range.
For high-resolution images, the Lumix S1RII offers a high-resolution mode that captures eight images with a slightly offset sensor position and composes them into a 177 megapixel file. This mode is available for both JPEG and RAW images and enables detailed results without a tripod. L-rumors.com
Advanced video functions with Open Gate and RAW recording
For the first time, a Lumix camera offers internal 8K video recording at 30 frames per second. In addition, the Lumix S1RII supports Open Gate recording, which utilizes the entire sensor area in 3:2 format for video recording in 6.4K resolution. This offers filmmakers maximum flexibility in post-production, as they can crop the required aspect ratio (e.g. 16:9, 1:1 or 9:16) later. Panasonic has also announced a firmware update for 2025 that will also enable Open Gate recordings in 8.1K and 7.2K.
Apple ProRes RAW HQ can be recorded internally at 5.8K at 30p on CFexpress Type B cards or an SSD hard drive connected via USB. RAW videos can even be output to external recorders in 8K via HDMI. The Lumix S1RII also offers the option of recording a proxy file with a low bit rate in parallel. This is linked to the original video and enables more efficient post-production.
Robust protection and other features
The robust magnesium alloy housing is protected against dust and splash water and is frost-proof down to -10 °C.The Lumix S1RII also offers new sensor protection: when the camera is switched off, the mechanical shutter can be closed automatically to protect the sensor from dust when the lens is changed.
The camera has a 5.76 megapixel OLED viewfinder and a folding and swiveling 3-inch touch display with 1.84 million pixels.Two memory card slots are available for storage: one for CFexpress type B cards and one for SDHC/SDXC (UHS-II) cards.
Optimized workflow and enhanced connectivity
The Lumix S1RII is the first Lumix system camera to support Capture One Tethering.This enables direct image transfer to a computer. In addition, the camera is compatible with Adobe Camera to Cloud, so that image and video files can be automatically uploaded to the cloud and edited there.
Two apps are available for an enhanced user experience: The LUMIX Lab app enables, among other things, the easy transfer, editing and management of LUTs (Look-Up-Tables) to use color styles directly in the camera or on the smartphone. The new LUMIX Flow app supports video productions from planning to editing and offers functions such as automatic sorting of recordings and the use of the smartphone as an external monitor.
Price and availability
The recommended retail price is €3,599 for the Lumix S1RII without lens and €4,499 for the kit with the 24-105 mm F4 Macro O.I.S. standard zoom.
Will be interesting to see if this is based around the DMW-BLJ31 or the DMW-BLK22.
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This camera looks really interesting in conjunction with the Sigma 500mm and the new 300-600. I currently use Sony but getting a bit frustrated with the Sony restrictions on Sigma lenses (no converter, fps rerstrictions) so considering this camera as I can fully utilise the Sigma lenses.
A few questions:
I assume this new Panasonic camera has pro(pre) capture?
Does it have stacked sensor? Black out free/ Im not able to find that info
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Rene de Heer
A few questions:
I assume this new Panasonic camera has pro(pre) capture?
Does it have stacked sensor? Black out free/ Im not able to find that info
Many thanks
Rene de Heer
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I wouldn't say that I need 40FPS as a regular basis. But as a still shooter, I definitely appreciate the fact that the feature is available (just in case).
Apparently the competition is there 20/30/40fps with stacked sensors.
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It's a very frustrating and annoying policy from Sony.
They provide camera bodies with awesome technology, but totally unleashed if and only if you use Sony native lenses only... But as they accepted 3rd party lens manufacturers nobody can say they locked their mount ... That's ridiculous, but it's a very old policy from Sony they started it in 2012 with the A99v (The body had a kinda OSPDAF but unlocked with very few specific Sony lenses only), and it repeated with A99ii.
I'm totally sick of it, and I like that Panasonic could bring me a new/refreshed ML version of DSLT Sony A99ii. A priori it won't be a stacked sensor ? which could also be a reason why the lower price compared to competition. BSI CMOS sensor is just fine with me as A99ii is still perfect for me, that 28 extra FPS would just do fine :-D
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georgehudetz
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The rumors list a 1.5 second pre-capture, but I'm not sure if it's raw or just JPEG.
Does not look to be a stacked sensor, but it is BSI. Again according to rumors. I too am waiting to learn about the blackout question. It would be very unfortunate if there is still blackout, particularly with the 10 fps/mechanical shutter mode.
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I hope the S1R2 uses the BLK-22 battery, since I already have a few.
I don't see any cooling vents in the side views. I'm thinking this model is analogous to the G9ii--a really good photocentric model with a lot of video features, but without ALL the video features (fan, codecs) of the GH7. Now that I have two S5iiX's for long run video, the new model FF may be a good fit for me for sports and wildlife, with short video clips and no real chance of overheating. I've already got or will get the 200mm+ L-mount lenses, even if I have to turn loose of some long E-mount lenses. Perhaps the model expected later this year may actually be the fully videocentric L-mount flagship, but I don't really need that now, I'm thinking. If I didn't already have the S5iiX's, I'd wait. Since I do, I'm interested in the S1Rii.
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I don't see any cooling vents in the side views. I'm thinking this model is analogous to the G9ii--a really good photocentric model with a lot of video features, but without ALL the video features (fan, codecs) of the GH7. Now that I have two S5iiX's for long run video, the new model FF may be a good fit for me for sports and wildlife, with short video clips and no real chance of overheating. I've already got or will get the 200mm+ L-mount lenses, even if I have to turn loose of some long E-mount lenses. Perhaps the model expected later this year may actually be the fully videocentric L-mount flagship, but I don't really need that now, I'm thinking. If I didn't already have the S5iiX's, I'd wait. Since I do, I'm interested in the S1Rii.
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Off The Mark
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Thanks for the reply.
Darn, my computer monitor only goes up to 350 Nits, so I guess I probably need a better monitor?!?!?!
Or just hook up my super cheap 5-inch Portkeys hdmi monitor to my PC via hdmi and use that as my "grading monitor." It is (supposedly) 1,500 Nits, but only 1080p resolution (and has a small crack in the screen).
Darn, my computer monitor only goes up to 350 Nits, so I guess I probably need a better monitor?!?!?!
Or just hook up my super cheap 5-inch Portkeys hdmi monitor to my PC via hdmi and use that as my "grading monitor." It is (supposedly) 1,500 Nits, but only 1080p resolution (and has a small crack in the screen).
Sam Bennett
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Interesting. Do you not find the BLK-22's (relatively) short battery life to be problematic in practice?
Off The Mark
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So I saw "somewhere" two nice but probably niche features coming, probably of most interest to video shooters:
1) False color (yeah!!!)
2) A new wide-angle stabilization system / algorithim / calculation (can't remember how it was phrased.
Hopefully the new WA stabilization will help reduce the corner warping when shooting video with wide / ultrawide lenses.
1) False color (yeah!!!)
2) A new wide-angle stabilization system / algorithim / calculation (can't remember how it was phrased.
Hopefully the new WA stabilization will help reduce the corner warping when shooting video with wide / ultrawide lenses.
georgehudetz
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What is false color?
No, but I'm not shooting 3 hours of football either. I have two spare batteries with me and can shoot 4k video for over an hour continuously on one battery, recording both video and proxy files. I've got two baseball games tomorrow night, about 3 hours total game time, shooting a mix of stills and video. My bet is that I will use up both batteries then.
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John Vickers
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I think he means this kind of thing: https://www.red.com/red-101/exposure-false-color-zebra-tools
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John Vickers
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The fan and venting are in and around the oversized "pentaprism" hump. See the S5M2 reviews.
I want something that can do 8K video Tom. I will probably get the Fuji X-H2, but then I'll have to buy lenses for it, so maybe I should get this Panasonic instead, because I see myself eventually getting a Sigma with the full-frame X3 sensor, a 14mm f1.4 Art in L mount, and possibly Sigma's amazing 105mm f2.8 Art macro for portraits.
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Would be interesting if it were. Thought I read that there was talk of that second camera being a fixed lens camera, something ala Fuji X100VI. Personally I'd be more interested in that fixed lens camera.
I have two S5iiX's and the vents are clearly visible from a side view. I don't see anything similar in the L-rumours photos in the OP, thus my comment.
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