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Hmmm. I clearly recall reading ads and interviews in photographic magazines from Nikon touting they would always support compatibility between their lenses. This at the time AF was coming out with the F4. This, because Canon had told their users of FD lenses they were going to be SOL now that the EF system was out.

Note this is the same Nikon which supplied aperture rings for F mount Type-A and Type-K lenses so they could be used on AI bodies. So they had five lens systems out when they began AF-I and AF-S and those would be useful going both forward and backwards.

And Nikon even designed the Pronea to take F mount lenses as well as their native IX series. So, here is a another example of them always keeping compatibility.

A good many long term Nikon customers expected the first FTZ to support AF as well as AF-D. And we were surprised that it did not.

Now if there was never an FTZ at all for the Z, it wouldn't matter. I'd see the Z as something completely different.

So for someone who had F2, FE, FA, F4, F5, E2, E3, D1, D1H, D1X, D2H, D2X and Df cameras, and has Type-A, Type-K, AI, AI-S, AI-P, AF, AF-D, and AF-S lenses, I am not considering a move to any Z body until I can at the very least use AF with my two DC lenses.

Stan
 
Stan Disbrow said:
Hi,

Hmmm. I clearly recall reading ads and interviews in photographic magazines from Nikon touting they would always support compatibility between their lenses.
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Even if this is true (which I don't believe it is, given how nobody can provide proof of this), technically, the ftz counts as you can still mount the lenses and shoot with them.
Stan Disbrow said:
A good many long term Nikon customers expected the first FTZ to support AF as well as AF-D. And we were surprised that it did not.
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You were. Most of us weren't, because AF/AFD lenses are often old and mediocre, and don't stand up to modern high res sensors.
As always, there are a few exceptions, but those are few and far between.
 
ghostfox_1 said:
Stan Disbrow said:
Hi,

Hmmm. I clearly recall reading ads and interviews in photographic magazines from Nikon touting they would always support compatibility between their lenses.
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Even if this is true (which I don't believe it is, given how nobody can provide proof of this), technically, the ftz counts as you can still mount the lenses and shoot with them.
A good many long term Nikon customers expected the first FTZ to support AF as well as AF-D. And we were surprised that it did not.[/QUOTE] You were. Most of us weren't said:
Stan Disbrow said:
Hi,

Hmmm. I clearly recall reading ads and interviews in photographic magazines from Nikon touting they would always support compatibility between their lenses.
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Even if this is true (which I don't believe it is, given how nobody can provide proof of this), technically, the ftz counts as you can still mount the lenses and shoot with them.
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Please refute Stan Disbrow's statements with facts, not Misinformation. I don't believe he is being dishonest, because I read similar in industry literature through the 1990s, obviously pre internet

Nikon obviously committed significant R&D to maintaining F-mount capabilities with older AI and AIS Nikkors, of which comparatively few are still made (Gray's of Westminster sells select optics).

Following on the film SLRs with AF through the 1990s.... All Nikon's Enthusiast and Flagship DSLRs include the AI indexing ring..... including the D850 (2017) and D780 and D6 (2020)

All these same DSLRs also have the integral AF motor for...Guess what for?

This amounts to over 3 decades of integrated support of F-mount functionalities, and it persists in the current DSLR models, which Nikon lists as available for sale.
ghostfox_1 said:
ghostfox_1 said:
A good many long term Nikon customers expected the first FTZ to support AF as well as AF-D. And we were surprised that it did not.
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You were. Most of us weren't, because AF/AFD lenses are often old and mediocre,
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Yet again, more Misinformation thrown into this thread in groping for a valid reason to refute the positives.

Mediocre is a meaningless pejorative in this context. AFD optics worked well and continue to work well. These are facts

https://casualphotophile.com/2021/05/03/nikon-af-d-lenses/
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and don't stand up to modern high res sensors
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Really?

20mp and 24mp sensors are still trending in the Nikon Ecosystem. The D750 with AFD primes continues to be a tried and tested kit for events, weddings etc.... Z6 level FX resolution

Several AFD primes I've tested perform very well on a 45mp sensor, including 70-180 Micro Nikkor, 85 f1.4D....

There're many others, believe it or not.
ghostfox_1 said:
As always, there are a few exceptions, but those are few and far between.
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It is true Nikon phased out its AFD lenses. Some information sources list 2005 and 2020 as "official" dates of Discontinuations.

The 84 f1.4D, 200 F4 Micro Nikkor, 105 f2D DC, 135 f2D DC were officially announced as discontinued in the past few years.

Some popular models are still in retail inventories eg 50 f1.8D. Reputable stores including Gray's of Westminster, B&H etc listed new AFD Nikkor prices up until the pandemic.
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"In a consumer landscape riddled with planned obsolescence, Nikon hopes to keep its camera users happier for longer...."

Hopefully this passion will extend to using older Nikon glass on Z cameras, notably the many thousands of AF lenses that are definitely not obsolete

petapixel.com

Nikon Says It is ‘Passionate’ About Providing Firmware Updates

Recent camera firmware updates demonstrate Nikon's commitment to its customers.
petapixel.com petapixel.com

Nikon's firmware update strategy for the Z series is a refreshing turnaround in client relationship, with deep lessons for not only other companies selling hightech products, but a certain mindset within Nikon itself.

This highly reputable company has yet to extend just a modicum of its passionate attention to Nikon's unique legacy of F-mount supporters, who remain passionate about their F-mount Nikkors in particular..... Some of these Nikonians purchased their AFD lens system new at huge expense only within the past decade. A period of intense consumer activity during the same years the Z System was more than a twinkle in the eyes of its pioneering engineers.

petapixel.com

No Camera Has Received Better Free Firmware Than the Nikon Z9

Has any camera ever received as many free, meaningful updates as the Nikon Z9?
petapixel.com petapixel.com
 
It sounds like you folks do have reasonable expectations for the screwdriver adapter and I do agree the 85 f1.4D, 200 F4 Micro Nikkor, 105 f2D DC, 135 f2D DC are all extremely venerable lenses. I apologize for my outburst yesterday. I just have visions of Fro and Toneh etc. excoriating Nikon for any performance wrinkles. I don't think Nikon could have afforded any bad publicity at the time of the Z-system intro, so I suspect that's why the adapter didn't come initially. Maybe by now with Z well-established we can all shrug if criticism along these lines arrives after the new adapter is introduced :-)

Merry Christmas everyone,

--
Best Regards,
SteveK
'A camera is an instrument that teaches people how to see without a camera.' -- Dorothea Lange
 
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Joseph S Wisniewski said:
Yes. I've pointed out where you've created or repeated three pieces of misinformation. I trust with these corrections, you will reconsider your position and at least try to be less aggressive in your opposition to this particular product.
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No aggression intended. Thanks for the corrections.

Merry Christmas.
 
Diswantsho said:
Joseph S Wisniewski said:
Yes. I've pointed out where you've created or repeated three pieces of misinformation. I trust with these corrections, you will reconsider your position and at least try to be less aggressive in your opposition to this particular product.
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No aggression intended. Thanks for the corrections.
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You're welcome. Sorry for assuming aggression where none was intended.
Diswantsho said:
Merry Christmas.
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And to you and yours.
 
Will this be from Nikon or a third-party?
 
Anyone can make claims on the Net and I've leaned it's best to ignore those claims. Because in most cases they are fabrications from those seeking attention.
 
primeshooter said:
MrHollywood said:
My "little bird" is not Nikon rumors.

OF COURSE it might not happen. Nikon has the ability to yank something a day before it ships. It's their company.

But what I was told is that the adapter is a tested and working item and has been "ready" for quite a while. Nikon Rumors may have the exact same "bird" but I seriously doubt it.

Time will tell!

Robert
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Great then. If it appears I'll make plans to stick the announcement in a reply to all the nay-sayers that said it would never happen. Just for good measure. :-)
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Here we go :-)

nikonrumors.com

MonsterAdapter to announce a new F-Z AF adapter (LA-FZ1) with AF support for old Nikkor F-mount AF lenses - Nikon Rumors

MonsterAdapter will reveal a new F-Z AF adapter (LA-FZ1) at the 2025 CP+ show in Japan (February 27 – March 2). The new adapter will allow Nikon mirrorless Z cameras to autofocus with old Nikkor F-mount AF lenses from the 198os that do not have built-in motors (designed for cameras with in-body...
nikonrumors.com nikonrumors.com
 
chambeshi said:
primeshooter said:
MrHollywood said:
My "little bird" is not Nikon rumors.

OF COURSE it might not happen. Nikon has the ability to yank something a day before it ships. It's their company.

But what I was told is that the adapter is a tested and working item and has been "ready" for quite a while. Nikon Rumors may have the exact same "bird" but I seriously doubt it.

Time will tell!

Robert
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Great then. If it appears I'll make plans to stick the announcement in a reply to all the nay-sayers that said it would never happen. Just for good measure. :-)
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Here we go :-)

https://nikonrumors.com/2025/02/22/...rt-for-old-nikkor-af-lenses.aspx/#more-203259
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Yup...I've been told several times that this item is coming. Just a matter of time.

Robert
 
chambeshi said:
https://nikonrumors.com/2025/02/22/...rt-for-old-nikkor-af-lenses.aspx/#more-203259
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Cool!

I do hope that Monster Adapter has improved its communication though, as otherwise it may still be unavailable in practice.

A while ago, at the time for an adapter for Pentax-lenses, they did not react to any of my enquiries for purchase or otherwise or details about EU-distributor (which they hinted at repeatedly)

** EDIT ** I see they now have an actual webstore, so let's see what happens if/when the F-Z adapter is listed :)
 
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MrHollywood said:
chambeshi said:
primeshooter said:
MrHollywood said:
My "little bird" is not Nikon rumors.

OF COURSE it might not happen. Nikon has the ability to yank something a day before it ships. It's their company.

But what I was told is that the adapter is a tested and working item and has been "ready" for quite a while. Nikon Rumors may have the exact same "bird" but I seriously doubt it.

Time will tell!

Robert
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Great then. If it appears I'll make plans to stick the announcement in a reply to all the nay-sayers that said it would never happen. Just for good measure. :-)
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Here we go :-)

https://nikonrumors.com/2025/02/22/...rt-for-old-nikkor-af-lenses.aspx/#more-203259
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Yup...I've been told several times that this item is coming. Just a matter of time.

Robert
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primeshooter said:
MrHollywood said:
chambeshi said:
primeshooter said:
MrHollywood said:
My "little bird" is not Nikon rumors.

OF COURSE it might not happen. Nikon has the ability to yank something a day before it ships. It's their company.

But what I was told is that the adapter is a tested and working item and has been "ready" for quite a while. Nikon Rumors may have the exact same "bird" but I seriously doubt it.

Time will tell!

Robert
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Great then. If it appears I'll make plans to stick the announcement in a reply to all the nay-sayers that said it would never happen. Just for good measure. :-)
Click to expand...
Here we go :-)

https://nikonrumors.com/2025/02/22/...rt-for-old-nikkor-af-lenses.aspx/#more-203259
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Yup...I've been told several times that this item is coming. Just a matter of time.

Robert
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A nikon official adapter?
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Well, it's true and works, it shows up Nikon's lip service etc to F mount legacy and backwards compatibility etc

Whatever happened to corporate recognition of the Old Lens Revival promoted by Haruo Sato's 1001 Nights?

The functionality of the LA-FE2 enabling F-mount to Sony E adapter reads as fairly comprehensive

https://www.monsteradapter.com/prod...-mount-cameras-adapter-with-af-motor-built-in

Highlights:
  1. Innovative F-mount lens adapter with both aperture and autofocus motor built-in;
  2. AF capable with Nikkor AF, AF-D, AF-G, AF-I, AF-S and AF-P lenses;
  3. Automatically recognizing and supporting both the electromagnetic and mechanic controlled aperture;
  4. G Driver empowered, provides fast and powerful auto focus;
  5. Supports human/animal eye AF if the body is capable;
  6. Supports high-speed continuous shooting up to 10fps if the body is capable;
  7. Supports the lens’ VR function;
  8. Supports F-mount tele-converters;
  9. Easy upgrading of firmware by simply connecting the camera body and computer with USB cable.
 
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chambeshi said:
primeshooter said:
MrHollywood said:
chambeshi said:
primeshooter said:
MrHollywood said:
My "little bird" is not Nikon rumors.

OF COURSE it might not happen. Nikon has the ability to yank something a day before it ships. It's their company.

But what I was told is that the adapter is a tested and working item and has been "ready" for quite a while. Nikon Rumors may have the exact same "bird" but I seriously doubt it.

Time will tell!

Robert
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Great then. If it appears I'll make plans to stick the announcement in a reply to all the nay-sayers that said it would never happen. Just for good measure. :-)
Click to expand...
Here we go :-)

https://nikonrumors.com/2025/02/22/...rt-for-old-nikkor-af-lenses.aspx/#more-203259
Click to expand...
Yup...I've been told several times that this item is coming. Just a matter of time.

Robert
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A nikon official adapter?
Click to expand...
Well, it's true and works, it shows up Nikon's lip service etc to F mount legacy and backwards compatibility etc

Whatever happened to corporate recognition of the Old Lens Revival promoted by Haruo Sato's 1001 Nights?

The functionality of the LA-FE2 enabling F-mount to Sony E adapter reads as fairly comprehensive

https://www.monsteradapter.com/prod...-mount-cameras-adapter-with-af-motor-built-in

Highlights:
  1. Innovative F-mount lens adapter with both aperture and autofocus motor built-in;
  2. AF capable with Nikkor AF, AF-D, AF-G, AF-I, AF-S and AF-P lenses;
  3. Automatically recognizing and supporting both the electromagnetic and mechanic controlled aperture;
  4. G Driver empowered, provides fast and powerful auto focus;
  5. Supports human/animal eye AF if the body is capable;
  6. Supports high-speed continuous shooting up to 10fps if the body is capable;
  7. Supports the lens’ VR function;
  8. Supports F-mount tele-converters;
  9. Easy upgrading of firmware by simply connecting the camera body and computer with USB cable.
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Remember the interview I linked to. Nikon saying it would be too big. This will be interesting...
 
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chambeshi said:
primeshooter said:
MrHollywood said:
My "little bird" is not Nikon rumors.

OF COURSE it might not happen. Nikon has the ability to yank something a day before it ships. It's their company.

But what I was told is that the adapter is a tested and working item and has been "ready" for quite a while. Nikon Rumors may have the exact same "bird" but I seriously doubt it.

Time will tell!

Robert
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Great then. If it appears I'll make plans to stick the announcement in a reply to all the nay-sayers that said it would never happen. Just for good measure. :-)
Click to expand...
Here we go :-)

https://nikonrumors.com/2025/02/22/...rt-for-old-nikkor-af-lenses.aspx/#more-203259
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God, please, let this come out so we can move on past this topic and never have it come up again.
 
primeshooter said:
MrHollywood said:
chambeshi said:
primeshooter said:
MrHollywood said:
My "little bird" is not Nikon rumors.

OF COURSE it might not happen. Nikon has the ability to yank something a day before it ships. It's their company.

But what I was told is that the adapter is a tested and working item and has been "ready" for quite a while. Nikon Rumors may have the exact same "bird" but I seriously doubt it.

Time will tell!

Robert
Click to expand...
Great then. If it appears I'll make plans to stick the announcement in a reply to all the nay-sayers that said it would never happen. Just for good measure. :-)
Click to expand...
Here we go :-)

https://nikonrumors.com/2025/02/22/...rt-for-old-nikkor-af-lenses.aspx/#more-203259
Click to expand...
Yup...I've been told several times that this item is coming. Just a matter of time.

Robert
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A nikon official adapter?
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So I am not the only one who understood the OP to predict a Nikon-branded adapter, not a third-party product, right?
 
ghostfox_1 said:
chambeshi said:
primeshooter said:
MrHollywood said:
My "little bird" is not Nikon rumors.

OF COURSE it might not happen. Nikon has the ability to yank something a day before it ships. It's their company.

But what I was told is that the adapter is a tested and working item and has been "ready" for quite a while. Nikon Rumors may have the exact same "bird" but I seriously doubt it.

Time will tell!

Robert
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Great then. If it appears I'll make plans to stick the announcement in a reply to all the nay-sayers that said it would never happen. Just for good measure. :-)
Click to expand...
Here we go :-)

https://nikonrumors.com/2025/02/22/...rt-for-old-nikkor-af-lenses.aspx/#more-203259
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God, please, let this come out so we can move on past this topic and never have it come up again.
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Nah - will have the opposite effect. Although I have no personal interest, I'd be delighted if one was released.
 
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