Sling Bag for a specific Sony Kit

I have one of those, it's nice, what I don't like so much is that you need both hands to open the zipper, one to push and the other to hold. Not with the PD Sling.
To push the front/back aside or what? That's definitely something I've taken for granted on the PDs...
Just to open the main compartment, with the PD you can open the zipper with one hand, not with the Bellroy, as the fabric is very flexible and when you pull the zipper you must hold the other side, sorry if I can't explain it better in English.
 
I have one of those, it's nice, what I don't like so much is that you need both hands to open the zipper, one to push and the other to hold. Not with the PD Sling.
To push the front/back aside or what? That's definitely something I've taken for granted on the PDs...
Just to open the main compartment, with the PD you can open the zipper with one hand, not with the Bellroy, as the fabric is very flexible and when you pull the zipper you must hold the other side, sorry if I can't explain it better in English.
Ahh nah that makes perfect sense, I can imagine the zipper catching if the top isn't as rigid, PD did a good job with the bag shape and the zippers in that regard. I've opened my 6L with one hand even when it's on the floor inside my other 45L bag... And obviously when it's hanging in front of me. English isn't my first language either btw (Spanish is), tu inglés está perfecto (dunno if you speak it, but it's usually close enough to the Portuguese hehe 😝).
 
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I have one of those, it's nice, what I don't like so much is that you need both hands to open the zipper, one to push and the other to hold. Not with the PD Sling.
To push the front/back aside or what? That's definitely something I've taken for granted on the PDs...
Just to open the main compartment, with the PD you can open the zipper with one hand, not with the Bellroy, as the fabric is very flexible and when you pull the zipper you must hold the other side, sorry if I can't explain it better in English.
Ahh nah that makes perfect sense, I can imagine the zipper catching if the top isn't as rigid, PD did a good job with the bag shape and the zippers in that regard. I've opened my 6L with one hand even when it's on the floor inside my other 45L bag... And obviously when it's hanging in front of me. English isn't my first language either btw (Spanish is), tu inglés está perfecto (dunno if you speak it, but it's usually close enough to the Portuguese hehe 😝).
Yes, I speak it since kid, and also Spanish, he vivido 11 años en Madrid :)
 
Hitching a hike on this thread to bring a question for Peak Design users out there: would a current Sony FE like an A7IV/A9II/A1 with the FE 20-70mm f/4 lens fit in a 3 litre PD Everyday sling? Do you have any other recommendations for small sling/day bags for that kit? (camera, lens+hood, extra batteries, maybe a 40mm f/2.5 FE but not necessarily)

This is meant as a present so I can't just try the bag out. Well, maybe I can, but my kit is larger and the person would want the smallest day bag they can get away with and I feel they'd prefer a sling bag.
 
Hitching a hike on this thread to bring a question for Peak Design users out there: would a current Sony FE like an A7IV/A9II/A1 with the FE 20-70mm f/4 lens fit in a 3 litre PD Everyday sling? Do you have any other recommendations for small sling/day bags for that kit? (camera, lens+hood, extra batteries, maybe a 40mm f/2.5 FE but not necessarily)
You got me there, I've used the original 5/10L and the newer 6L Sling but not the 3L... My partner has the 3L tho and I'll be back there in about a week, if no one has answered by then I can test fit that for ya.
This is meant as a present so I can't just try the bag out. Well, maybe I can, but my kit is larger and the person would want the smallest day bag they can get away with and I feel they'd prefer a sling bag.
FWIW Best Buy often has the 3L in stock so that could be one place to try it if you can go there with a similar-ish kit. Inside the 6L they'd have space to spare for a 3rd lens around the same size as the 20-70/4.

I think the most I've carried in the 6L is my A7R IV plus 17-50 (a tad longer than the 20-70), a Samyang 135/1.8, and a SY 45/1.8 (about the size of the 40/2.5 G with hood)... The 135mm mounted is a real push but surprisingly it can still fit, less awkward off to the side with the 17-50/4 mounted.
 
Not everyone loves Peak Design bags. I bought a bing sling bag and sold it off without even using it. It was floppy in the wrong way: I couldn't get it to stand up straight. The flap would not fold back. Their unique divider did not suit me at all. My Tenba bag works the way I need it to. And probably many other bags would too (I love my low-cost Lowepro for a smaller load).

PD tries to be different. And it works, for millions.

And I absolutely do not hate PD! I just bought my second strap made by them, and I love their simple, easily-removable anchors. And I used their wriststrap on smaller, aps-c cameras. They are very good-for-me :-)

It's a matter of what fits.
 
The PD Slings are definitely designed for the camera to go in lens pointing down (IMO, can be configured differently but they're tall enough a decent amount of space would then go to waste), this seems like it's more ideal as you're using it with the lens pointing to the side.
I guess it all depends, but I fit my A7CR pointing sideways into the 5L. The dividers have a cool fold-in functionality. So I put the CV15 on the bottom, fold the divider over it, and then there is space for the camera, with the lens resting on the divider that is folded over the 15. (not easy to describe for a non-native speaker like me :P)

That leaves me with another third of the bag for a longer lens like the 70-300.

The 15 is usually a lens I don't need "suddenly" to capture quick action, so being in a bottom corner of the bag isn't an issue.
 
The PD Slings are definitely designed for the camera to go in lens pointing down (IMO, can be configured differently but they're tall enough a decent amount of space would then go to waste), this seems like it's more ideal as you're using it with the lens pointing to the side.
I guess it all depends, but I fit my A7CR pointing sideways into the 5L.
That makes sense tbh, the 5L is shorter than the 6L and that was the main change between them, plus doing that is easier with the hump-less A7C... With the SLR styled bodies I think having the longer humpy side pointing forward makes more sense (since the newer slings in particular are wider up top and narrower at the bottom, yet somehow they sit fine/better on their own).
The dividers have a cool fold-in functionality. So I put the CV15 on the bottom, fold the divider over it, and then there is space for the camera, with the lens resting on the divider that is folded over the 15. (not easy to describe for a non-native speaker like me :P)
Hah, I got it though, I actually do something very very similar when I use the 6L with the lens pointing down, I put the 75/1.8 (or something smaller) on the right and I fold the divider over it, then the camera grip area rests over it (larger lens mounted and the 75mm in parallel but isolated) leaving very little space to it's right... Then a big space sectioned off to the left for another larger lens.
That leaves me with another third of the bag for a longer lens like the 70-300.
Same! I've had a 135/1.8 in there even which I think is similar in length but maybe a larger diameter (I leave the hood home).

I think when I was using the 5L at some point I did the same thing you did with my E-M5 II, the lower height and different shape of that one lends itself to it tho the end result is the same... (I think?) 3 lenses plus body with one of the three being smaller.
The 15 is usually a lens I don't need "suddenly" to capture quick action, so being in a bottom corner of the bag isn't an issue.
Plus if you have the camera out already then it's not really under anything right? Just a matter of popping one half of the divider up to get at it in order to swap lenses.
 
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Not everyone loves Peak Design bags. I bought a bing sling bag and sold it off without even using it. It was floppy in the wrong way: I couldn't get it to stand up straight.
Sounds like one of the older V1 slings, the current V2s stand on their own FWIW.
The flap would not fold back.
Yeah it's stiff and tends to sorta remain in position, helps keep stuff from falling out but you do have to maneuver around it.
Their unique divider did not suit me at all. My Tenba bag works the way I need it to. And probably many other bags would too (I love my low-cost Lowepro for a smaller load).
Which Tenba? Just curious, I bought a Slim Cooper 13 messenger bag years ago that I really liked, AFAIK it got discontinued though. Do they make any slings? I used ThinkTank's Turnstyle slings before PD's, they were a bit sleeker and had some advantages but had less storage space overall and/or less organization... I think the Mindshift versions improved on that.
PD tries to be different. And it works, for millions.

And I absolutely do not hate PD! I just bought my second strap made by them, and I love their simple, easily-removable anchors. And I used their wriststrap on smaller, aps-c cameras. They are very good-for-me :-)

It's a matter of what fits.
 
Not everyone loves Peak Design bags. I bought a bing sling bag and sold it off without even using it. It was floppy in the wrong way: I couldn't get it to stand up straight.
Sounds like one of the older V1 slings, the current V2s stand on their own FWIW.
Pretty sure it was a V2. It was too floppy for me!

I see from subsequent posts that people do have great ways of making the PD system work for them. But I don't think I'll try again.
Which Tenba? Just curious,
I had a DNA8 V1 when I had an aps-c camera with maybe two lenses, That now seems really tiny but I absolutely still use it for a7iv+one-lens outings.

I have now gone to the other extreme with a DNA16 Pro. 2nd generation. The is the "SLR" bag, with extra depth (up to six sections, rather than just three). The a7iv will easily fit sideways, even at one end of the bag. I do that if there is small prime on it at packing time (usually is). If I want to keep the 135 or a zoom, them then it will fit nicely in the front centre with another small lens at rear centre.

The second-generation bags are, aesthetically, not as nice as the first. The fabric might be more water-resistant, but it is not as good looking. And generation1 had nice pulls on the zips, Gen 2 has knotted string. That's cheap! Especially on a not-cheap bag.
I bought a Slim Cooper 13 messenger bag years ago that I really liked, AFAIK it got discontinued though. Do they make any slings?
OK OK, I'm realising that this is sort ofoff-topic: it's a messenger bag, rather than a sling!
PD tries to be different. And it works, for millions.
I still love their straps myself but I've been using them less and less because with a sling I'll reach for a wrist strap and with my backpack I use Capture... Still using the Anchor links though, I just have a couple leather wrist straps from 595 Strapco and Clever Supply (with built in PD Anchor Links) that I like a little better than the PD Cuff.

When I am using a long strap it's definitely Leash though, nothing else, or Slide for my tele zoom but I'm fine with Leash even on a 135/1.8.
I used a Slide Light with APSC. I just bought a Slide for a7iv+zoom. I had to go to a 2-day wedding. I found it much more comfortable than the narrower Slide,

I don't normally use a strap at all. Only if I am travelling, or have to keep the camera with me for security.

I can easily see how people become collectors of camera bags, quite apart from changing equipment needs. I think I have at least four under the bed!

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I like my Peak Design 10 L, and I figure it should fit your kit.

It's my walkaround bag and a good fit for the A9, Tamron 35-150, and Sony 20/1.8 (my street kit) with a bit of space to spare.

Can take reasonable amounts of rain and comes with a zipper. Doesn't fold entirely flat.
Thanks, I’ll check that one out, I do like Peak Design stuff.
I've used the PD 6L for many years. It doesn't pack flat at all. Very stiff/ridged. Think of it like a camera cube with straps.

Take a look at Ulanzi slings. They are less stiff and can pack more flat. However, I am more interested in the PGYTech OneMo Sling. It has more features like expansion zips.

My slings are more for local/city travel. International or ultra light travel I actually use a packable backpack like Mystery Ranch In Out + camera inserts. Light and packs flat in luggage. Plus it is more comfortable for long travels.
Thanks for this, I looked both brands up, but no UK distributor, only shipping from USA. So they're out due to not being easily able to return if not suitable.
 
40 years old, ten bucks from Goodwill gets you real zips, real waterproofing, deep padding and an exterior neither you or anybody else, cares about.
Not singling you out in any way Ray, but the constant threads where ostensibly grown men hand out fashion advice for hand bags is beyond worrisome.
What's the point of a statement ANYTHING if no one scatters rose petals in their path ?
1. No fashion advice sought or given. This is a perfectly sensible thread about seeking an optimum sling bag for the myriad logistics of AIRLINE TRAVEL.

2. What's the point of commenting on a thread just to be facetious, without contributing anything whatsoever?
 
I’m looking for a sling bag to accommodate my travel kit:

1 x Sony A1 with Small Rig L Bracket baseplate attached and 20-70f4 attached. Plus 35mm GM and 85mm GMII.

Ideally the sling will be waterproof to at least some degree and will pack reasonably flat when empty and packed inside my checked luggage.

Preferably a zippered bag that can take a luggage padlock for extra security when needed.

Also, as small as possible to squeeze all this in, in other words nothing that is needlessly larger than necessary to accommodate the specific kit above.

Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
This comfortably takes my A7CR, 20-70 and two other lenses. It has a feature I find very useful that makes it unique.

Check the photo

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2859020...55-0&msclkid=2b4f8c6f2e931d42a828ebf5f5bdcb1d

The long side can be enlarged via a zipper so a bigger tele can be carried as well, or keep it zipped as a smaller bag.

On a plane, I take the padded compartment out and put it in my carry on bag with my camera and 20-70 inside. The Sling bag without the padded compartment isn't bulky then folds flat and goes in with my checked baggage. When I arrive, the Sling comes our and the padded compartment goes back into the Sling.

There is a zipped compartment inside the Sling. The external pockets on the Sling have no closure and I don't trust them. I've added closure to the external pockets for security.

With a little luck this bag can often be found for around half the price of the one shown in my link. I got mine for about Australian $50
Thanks Mike, this looks interesting but not exactly what I'm looking for after checking it out in my local camera store. It's super useful for folks who want to carry something like 70-200mm though. A unique sling!
 
I like my Peak Design 10 L, and I figure it should fit your kit.

It's my walkaround bag and a good fit for the A9, Tamron 35-150, and Sony 20/1.8 (my street kit) with a bit of space to spare.

Can take reasonable amounts of rain and comes with a zipper. Doesn't fold entirely flat.
Thanks, I’ll check that one out, I do like Peak Design stuff.
I love my original PD 10L Sling V1 (so much so I bought a second one on clearance cause I wasn't crazy about some of the changes to V2, aesthetically and with regards to the front pocket)... It'll definitely fit your 3 lenses with some room to spare and I can tell you the smaller 6L won't (I've been using that one more often but my 3rd lens is small - 2.75" or so), and the zipper pulls can be looped with each other for some security if you aren't using a lock.

I think the PD Slings fail in one respect tho, I wouldn't say they fold very flat at all... In fact I typically fill my 6L with stuff rather than trying to fold it flat and then I throw it inside my 45L carry on, but that might be harder to do with the larger 10L. You will have room to spare inside it too since the two other lenses not mounted won't fully fill each divided section. I don't think the new 7L Outdoor is large enough at all (internal space with the camera cube actually seems smaller than the 6L...), but that one does fold flat.

I'm curious what else someone might recommend because I love slings myself and I'm curious what else is out there that could fold flatter or pack away better than PD's but still retain some dividers etc. I've been using the 10L less since I've been traveling with a 20L backpack + carry on, but I've been using the 6L a ton since I throw it inside the carry on as mentioned, along with other smaller slings or waist packs not meant for cameras.

PD's V2 Slings did generally improve on V1, nicer/detachable external carry straps, they stand on their own whereas V1 didn't necessarily manage that (5L V1 in particular, 6L replaced it), nicer zippers, etc. I love them, I just don't think they might be the ideal solution if you really need em to fold as flat as possible.

I used a ThinkTank Turnstyle 10L before the PD bags and I don't think that was meant to fold flat easily either but it was more tapered so a bit slimmer. Always wanted to but never tried Mindshift's (their sister brand) slings, could be worth a look too. I think most dedicated camera slings with dividers and such won't fold flat easily unless they're not very padded and/or unless you can take the internal cube w/dividers out and fold disassemble that to fold flat.

Edit: OTOH, the 10L should always pass as a "personal item" on any airline and should always fit under the front seat, so if you travel only with a single carry on bag (in addition to it) and don't mind using the 10L like that then it could be ideal (in the US, idk about restrictions elsewhere). In fact that's how I used and traveled with mine for years, still had room in there for headphones and other stuff (or a couple extra lenses). You can overpack it easily which won't be comfortable for walking, but can be useful for air travel.

I only stopped using it like so when I started wanting to carry the 50-400 and/or a tripod at times, the lens was more awkward (but fit) in it and the tripod was just unwieldy on the bottom of the 10L (rode fine but adds too much weight to a single shoulder), I had started wanting more room for non-camera stuff too. That's where the 20L backpack came in... I kinda miss traveling with the 10L TBH, right now I shuffle stuff around a lot between my 6L and backpack once I'm at my destination, the 10L was more central for the camera stuff.

If you wanna see how any lenses fit in it just lmk, tho keep in mind I have V1 which I think might be wider (not sure)... Sometimes it's hard to picture how the folding dividers can segment the space or how well a lens will fit on top of another when it comes to smaller mirrorless gear.
Thanks for the detailed and very helpful post, as always it's very much appreciated.

I only got back from my Portugal trip last Friday and managed to get to my local camera store on Saturday (Park Cameras, UK) to check out the bags mentioned on this thread (and to pick up a lens.... oops!)

But also, I've thought about this some more and modified what I'm looking for. I've concluded that I'm covered for long haul trips and have that dialled in with existing luggage and camera bags.

However, it's short haul/shorter trips within the EU from my base in UK that I'm dialling in on now, something I want to do more of in 2025 and beyond. Especially photo-centric and impromptu 1 to 2 night city breaks.

There are basically 3 airlines that cater for this market in Europe. EasyJet, Wizz Air and Ryan Air.

They all work on the same model. That model is to offer a ridiculously cheap headline return fare, which includes an equally ridiculously small carry-on size. This is further complicated by the fact that the "free" carry-on is different for all 3 airlines. I'll come back to that.

The business model then allows you to add additional luggage either as a second larger carry on, or an even larger checked bag. The latter of which is unnecessary for short haul trips <2 weeks really.

The thing is, the headline return fare can be as low as £20 GBP, but immediately becomes at least £120 once you add an extra cabin bag or checked bag.

What I'd like is to do is more of these short trips and only with a "free" carry-on for those £20 tickets. Playing the airlines at their own game I can do a lot more of these trips.

This seems impossible for us photographers, but as a seasoned solo traveller I'm determined to find a way to make it work.

That means using seasoned travellers tricks like wearing a teeshirt with a shirt over it for the flight, the latter becoming your day 2 shirt, and so on. I recall Mark Galer talking about this somewhere before. That means you only have to pack underwear and the absolute basics of toiletries alongside your camera gear. Etc.

However, the free-carry on size varies for each of the 3 airlines mentioned. From most generous to least generous:

EasyJet - 45x36x20cm

Wizz Air - 40x30x20cm

Ryan Air - 40x25x20cm

So, I'm now working on Ryan Air as the least generous.

This rules out the Peak Design 10 litre because that is 42x25x13cm. I looked at it on Saturday and it's a great sling! It will accommodate what I want to carry, but it's a shade too big.

However, my camera store also carries the Wandrd range and their 9L sling is compelling! Plus it meets the size criteria being 34x22x18cm.

This sling is deceptively spacious given its dimensions. In store I was easily able to accommodate:

1. A1 with Small Rig baseplate attached and 20-70mm attached.

2. 20mm 1.8G

3. My newly acquired 50mm 1.2GM

4. 10" iPad

The above kit fitted with ease and with a fair amount of room to spare. I don't know how they managed it with a 9L sling?! Therefore I know that it'll also accommodate the bare minimum of extras I'll need for say a 2 night city break:

1. PD charger and USB cables.

2. Spare camera batteries and memory cards.

3. Bare minimum toiletries (can always buy more at destination)

4. Underwear and socks for max 2 nights.

I didn't buy there and then, but I'm minded to go back and get one. Price is £134 GPB. There is a funky range of colours to choose from as well as black!

https://eu.wandrd.com/en-gb/products/rogue-9l-sling?variant=40522317135914

If anyone knows of a better sling that holds as much and is <40x25x20cm I'd love to know!

Of course I'll pony up the price of extra baggage for longer trips, as I've always done.

Having said that, if I pay for extra carry-on, the smaller free one needs to be < 40x25x20cm anyway!
 
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Ryan Air - 40x25x20cm

So, I'm now working on Ryan Air as the least generous.

This rules out the Peak Design 10 litre because that is 42x25x13cm. I looked at it on Saturday and it's a great sling! It will accommodate what I want to carry, but it's a shade too big.
For what it's worth, I fly with my 10L sling all the time including with RyanAir, and not once have they actually measured it. It fits neatly under the seat in front of me on every plane I've been on.

I highly doubt they would take issue with 2 cm extra width, especially given that the 10L sling is less deep than their max. The 10L sling would definitely fit into that "carry-on size checker" thing they have at the check-in desk, even if I had to squeeze it a little bit on one side.

Across dozens of RyanAir flights, not once have they even asked to measure my 10L sling. They take one look at it, figure it'll fit under the seat in front, and that's that.
 
Ryan Air - 40x25x20cm

So, I'm now working on Ryan Air as the least generous.

This rules out the Peak Design 10 litre because that is 42x25x13cm. I looked at it on Saturday and it's a great sling! It will accommodate what I want to carry, but it's a shade too big.
For what it's worth, I fly with my 10L sling all the time including with RyanAir, and not once have they actually measured it. It fits neatly under the seat in front of me on every plane I've been on.

I highly doubt they would take issue with 2 cm extra width, especially given that the 10L sling is less deep than their max. The 10L sling would definitely fit into that "carry-on size checker" thing they have at the check-in desk, even if I had to squeeze it a little bit on one side.

Across dozens of RyanAir flights, not once have they even asked to measure my 10L sling. They take one look at it, figure it'll fit under the seat in front, and that's that.
Thank you, this is invaluable feedback. When I'm next at Park Cameras I'll re-evaluate the Peak Design 10lL vs the Wandrd 9L side by side. I do like Peak Design stuff!
 
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whose bags get wet, get dirty, get stored in sharp edged spots and only have two reasons to exist, hold the gear and protect it.

ray_burnimage wrote:
2. What's the point of commenting on a thread just to be facetious, without contributing anything whatsoever?
I did. first line.. Buy used, buy big, buy rough, buy cheap, be happy.
Travel can mean many things, especially on planes.
Like I said, wasn't singling you out.
These "discussions" are only ever as good as the next lens purchase.
 
whose bags get wet, get dirty, get stored in sharp edged spots and only have two reasons to exist, hold the gear and protect it.

ray_burnimage wrote:
2. What's the point of commenting on a thread just to be facetious, without contributing anything whatsoever?
I did. first line.. Buy used, buy big, buy rough, buy cheap, be happy.
Travel can mean many things, especially on planes.
Like I said, wasn't singling you out.
These "discussions" are only ever as good as the next lens purchase.
None of which addresses the questions posed by my OP. Anyway, I'm sure you'll hit 10,000 posts soon enough. One or two might actually be useful and relevant.
 
I like my Peak Design 10 L, and I figure it should fit your kit.

It's my walkaround bag and a good fit for the A9, Tamron 35-150, and Sony 20/1.8 (my street kit) with a bit of space to spare.

Can take reasonable amounts of rain and comes with a zipper. Doesn't fold entirely flat.
Thanks, I’ll check that one out, I do like Peak Design stuff.
I've used the PD 6L for many years. It doesn't pack flat at all. Very stiff/ridged. Think of it like a camera cube with straps.

Take a look at Ulanzi slings. They are less stiff and can pack more flat. However, I am more interested in the PGYTech OneMo Sling. It has more features like expansion zips.

My slings are more for local/city travel. International or ultra light travel I actually use a packable backpack like Mystery Ranch In Out + camera inserts. Light and packs flat in luggage. Plus it is more comfortable for long travels.
Thanks for this, I looked both brands up, but no UK distributor, only shipping from USA. So they're out due to not being easily able to return if not suitable.
Both PGYTech & Ulanzi can be shipped by amazon.co.uk
 

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