Photolab 8 Elite and Viewpoint 5

Ephemeris said:

We have been looking at PL8 Elite for the last couple of weeks for a specific project.

Perspective corrections we normally handle within LrC but could potentially use what is available within PL8.

Is there any advantages to having Viewpoint 5 as well ?

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stormyboy said:

Ephemeris said:

We have been looking at PL8 Elite for the last couple of weeks for a specific project.

Perspective corrections we normally handle within LrC but could potentially use what is available within PL8.

Is there any advantages to having Viewpoint 5 as well ?

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https://support.dxo.com/hc/en-us/ar...-DxO-ViewPoint-if-I-already-have-DxO-PhotoLab

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Ephemeris said:

stormyboy said:

Ephemeris said:

We have been looking at PL8 Elite for the last couple of weeks for a specific project.

Perspective corrections we normally handle within LrC but could potentially use what is available within PL8.

Is there any advantages to having Viewpoint 5 as well ?

Click to expand...

https://support.dxo.com/hc/en-us/ar...-DxO-ViewPoint-if-I-already-have-DxO-PhotoLab

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Thanks stormyboy. It was the contents of that link that triggered me to make the post. The user experience part perhaps would benefit from some real user feedback.

For users of DxO PhotoLab 8 Elite and newer, DxO ViewPoint 5 will bring all the same features beside Perspective tools (which are already embedded in DxO PhotoLab 8 Elite).

Please note that the best user experience is offered by the ViewPoint 5 standalone application, which includes a dedicated perspective correction interface, with a special "automatic preview", loupe, and guides.

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Ephemeris said:

stormyboy said:

Ephemeris said:

We have been looking at PL8 Elite for the last couple of weeks for a specific project.

Perspective corrections we normally handle within LrC but could potentially use what is available within PL8.

Is there any advantages to having Viewpoint 5 as well ?

Click to expand...

https://support.dxo.com/hc/en-us/ar...-DxO-ViewPoint-if-I-already-have-DxO-PhotoLab

Click to expand...

Thanks stormyboy. It was the contents of that link that triggered me to make the post. The user experience part perhaps would benefit from some real user feedback.

For users of DxO PhotoLab 8 Elite and newer, DxO ViewPoint 5 will bring all the same features beside Perspective tools (which are already embedded in DxO PhotoLab 8 Elite).

Click to expand...

Ephemeris said:

Please note that the best user experience is offered by the ViewPoint 5 standalone application, which includes a dedicated perspective correction interface, with a special "automatic preview", loupe, and guides.

Click to expand...

Digital Nigel said:

Ephemeris said:

stormyboy said:

Ephemeris said:

We have been looking at PL8 Elite for the last couple of weeks for a specific project.

Perspective corrections we normally handle within LrC but could potentially use what is available within PL8.

Is there any advantages to having Viewpoint 5 as well ?

Click to expand...

https://support.dxo.com/hc/en-us/ar...-DxO-ViewPoint-if-I-already-have-DxO-PhotoLab

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Thanks stormyboy. It was the contents of that link that triggered me to make the post. The user experience part perhaps would benefit from some real user feedback.

For users of DxO PhotoLab 8 Elite and newer, DxO ViewPoint 5 will bring all the same features beside Perspective tools (which are already embedded in DxO PhotoLab 8 Elite).

Click to expand...

You also get some additional tools in PL8 when you also have VP5. These are built into PL8 anyway, but only get turned on if you have a VP licence.

These include the Volume Deformation correction (very useful if you shoot with wide-angle lenses — I use it automatically in every shot), the ReShape Fusion tool (enhanced in this release, and used to warp the grid and to apply local geometric corrections — useful in some images, particularly after you apply perspective correction) and the gimmicky Miniature Effect tool, used to artificially reduce the DoF).

Of these tools, I use Volume Deformation correction automatically in every image (though its effect is minimal till you get below about 28mm equiv focal length), perspective adjustment quite often (say, 10-20% of the time), ReShape in around 1-5% of images, and Miniature Effect almost never.

Digital Nigel said:

Please note that the best user experience is offered by the ViewPoint 5 standalone application, which includes a dedicated perspective correction interface, with a special "automatic preview", loupe, and guides.

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I find it's much more useful to have the tools built right into PL8. I can use them at any time with a couple of clicks, and take advantage of all VP features in my PL presets. I never even open the stand-alone ViewPoint 5, as all its features are built right into PL8.

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Ephemeris said:

Digital Nigel said:

Ephemeris said:

stormyboy said:

Ephemeris said:

We have been looking at PL8 Elite for the last couple of weeks for a specific project.

Perspective corrections we normally handle within LrC but could potentially use what is available within PL8.

Is there any advantages to having Viewpoint 5 as well ?

Click to expand...

https://support.dxo.com/hc/en-us/ar...-DxO-ViewPoint-if-I-already-have-DxO-PhotoLab

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Thanks stormyboy. It was the contents of that link that triggered me to make the post. The user experience part perhaps would benefit from some real user feedback.

For users of DxO PhotoLab 8 Elite and newer, DxO ViewPoint 5 will bring all the same features beside Perspective tools (which are already embedded in DxO PhotoLab 8 Elite).

Click to expand...

You also get some additional tools in PL8 when you also have VP5. These are built into PL8 anyway, but only get turned on if you have a VP licence.

These include the Volume Deformation correction (very useful if you shoot with wide-angle lenses — I use it automatically in every shot), the ReShape Fusion tool (enhanced in this release, and used to warp the grid and to apply local geometric corrections — useful in some images, particularly after you apply perspective correction) and the gimmicky Miniature Effect tool, used to artificially reduce the DoF).

Of these tools, I use Volume Deformation correction automatically in every image (though its effect is minimal till you get below about 28mm equiv focal length), perspective adjustment quite often (say, 10-20% of the time), ReShape in around 1-5% of images, and Miniature Effect almost never.

Ephemeris said:

Please note that the best user experience is offered by the ViewPoint 5 standalone application, which includes a dedicated perspective correction interface, with a special "automatic preview", loupe, and guides.

Click to expand...

I find it's much more useful to have the tools built right into PL8. I can use them at any time with a couple of clicks, and take advantage of all VP features in my PL presets. I never even open the stand-alone ViewPoint 5, as all its features are built right into PL8.

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Thanks Nigel. I very much doubt I would have found that out without playing with the software

Can all of this be done within VP5?

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Digital Nigel said:

Digital Nigel said:

Please note that the best user experience is offered by the ViewPoint 5 standalone application, which includes a dedicated perspective correction interface, with a special "automatic preview", loupe, and guides.

Click to expand...

I find it's much more useful to have the tools built right into PL8. I can use them at any time with a couple of clicks, and take advantage of all VP features in my PL presets. I never even open the stand-alone ViewPoint 5, as all its features are built right into PL8.

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Ab S said:

Digital Nigel said:

Ephemeris said:

Please note that the best user experience is offered by the ViewPoint 5 standalone application, which includes a dedicated perspective correction interface, with a special "automatic preview", loupe, and guides.

Click to expand...

I find it's much more useful to have the tools built right into PL8. I can use them at any time with a couple of clicks, and take advantage of all VP features in my PL presets. I never even open the stand-alone ViewPoint 5, as all its features are built right into PL8.

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That is why I am surprised DxO is mentioning that the best user experience is offered in the stand-alone application.

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Digital Nigel said:

Ephemeris said:

Digital Nigel said:

Ephemeris said:

stormyboy said:

Ephemeris said:

We have been looking at PL8 Elite for the last couple of weeks for a specific project.

Perspective corrections we normally handle within LrC but could potentially use what is available within PL8.

Is there any advantages to having Viewpoint 5 as well ?

Click to expand...

https://support.dxo.com/hc/en-us/ar...-DxO-ViewPoint-if-I-already-have-DxO-PhotoLab

Click to expand...

Thanks stormyboy. It was the contents of that link that triggered me to make the post. The user experience part perhaps would benefit from some real user feedback.

For users of DxO PhotoLab 8 Elite and newer, DxO ViewPoint 5 will bring all the same features beside Perspective tools (which are already embedded in DxO PhotoLab 8 Elite).

Click to expand...

You also get some additional tools in PL8 when you also have VP5. These are built into PL8 anyway, but only get turned on if you have a VP licence.

These include the Volume Deformation correction (very useful if you shoot with wide-angle lenses — I use it automatically in every shot), the ReShape Fusion tool (enhanced in this release, and used to warp the grid and to apply local geometric corrections — useful in some images, particularly after you apply perspective correction) and the gimmicky Miniature Effect tool, used to artificially reduce the DoF).

Of these tools, I use Volume Deformation correction automatically in every image (though its effect is minimal till you get below about 28mm equiv focal length), perspective adjustment quite often (say, 10-20% of the time), ReShape in around 1-5% of images, and Miniature Effect almost never.

Digital Nigel said:

Please note that the best user experience is offered by the ViewPoint 5 standalone application, which includes a dedicated perspective correction interface, with a special "automatic preview", loupe, and guides.

Click to expand...

I find it's much more useful to have the tools built right into PL8. I can use them at any time with a couple of clicks, and take advantage of all VP features in my PL presets. I never even open the stand-alone ViewPoint 5, as all its features are built right into PL8.

Click to expand...

Thanks Nigel. I very much doubt I would have found that out without playing with the software

Can all of this be done within VP5?

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As I said, I never open VP5. But I think the tools are the same, just in a different UI. There used to be a time when you actually got more options with the VP tools inside PL than inside VP4, but I don't think that's the case with VP5.

But the major problem is that you can't integrate those VP tools with the seamless, non-destructive editing of raw images in PL. If you do everything inside PL (and that includes FilmPack), then you don't even need to remember which tools came from which product: they're all just part of the PL toolset, and can be used at will, in any order, with no transfer files. You can go back later, and change any setting in any tool non-destructively. That all falls down the moment you use a separate product.

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Digital Nigel said:

Ephemeris said:

Digital Nigel said:

Ephemeris said:

stormyboy said:

Ephemeris said:

We have been looking at PL8 Elite for the last couple of weeks for a specific project.

Perspective corrections we normally handle within LrC but could potentially use what is available within PL8.

Is there any advantages to having Viewpoint 5 as well ?

Click to expand...

https://support.dxo.com/hc/en-us/ar...-DxO-ViewPoint-if-I-already-have-DxO-PhotoLab

Click to expand...

Thanks stormyboy. It was the contents of that link that triggered me to make the post. The user experience part perhaps would benefit from some real user feedback.

For users of DxO PhotoLab 8 Elite and newer, DxO ViewPoint 5 will bring all the same features beside Perspective tools (which are already embedded in DxO PhotoLab 8 Elite).

Click to expand...

You also get some additional tools in PL8 when you also have VP5. These are built into PL8 anyway, but only get turned on if you have a VP licence.

These include the Volume Deformation correction (very useful if you shoot with wide-angle lenses — I use it automatically in every shot), the ReShape Fusion tool (enhanced in this release, and used to warp the grid and to apply local geometric corrections — useful in some images, particularly after you apply perspective correction) and the gimmicky Miniature Effect tool, used to artificially reduce the DoF).

Of these tools, I use Volume Deformation correction automatically in every image (though its effect is minimal till you get below about 28mm equiv focal length), perspective adjustment quite often (say, 10-20% of the time), ReShape in around 1-5% of images, and Miniature Effect almost never.

Digital Nigel said:

Please note that the best user experience is offered by the ViewPoint 5 standalone application, which includes a dedicated perspective correction interface, with a special "automatic preview", loupe, and guides.

Click to expand...

I find it's much more useful to have the tools built right into PL8. I can use them at any time with a couple of clicks, and take advantage of all VP features in my PL presets. I never even open the stand-alone ViewPoint 5, as all its features are built right into PL8.

Click to expand...

Thanks Nigel. I very much doubt I would have found that out without playing with the software

Can all of this be done within VP5?

Click to expand...

As I said, I never open VP5. But I think the tools are the same, just in a different UI. There used to be a time when you actually got more options with the VP tools inside PL than inside VP4, but I don't think that's the case with VP5.

But the major problem is that you can't integrate those VP tools with the seamless, non-destructive editing of raw images in PL. If you do everything inside PL (and that includes FilmPack), then you don't even need to remember which tools came from which product: they're all just part of the PL toolset, and can be used at will, in any order, with no transfer files. You can go back later, and change any setting in any tool non-destructively. That all falls down the moment you use a separate product.

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Ephemeris said:

Digital Nigel said:

Ephemeris said:

Digital Nigel said:

Ephemeris said:

stormyboy said:

Ephemeris said:

We have been looking at PL8 Elite for the last couple of weeks for a specific project.

Perspective corrections we normally handle within LrC but could potentially use what is available within PL8.

Is there any advantages to having Viewpoint 5 as well ?

Click to expand...

https://support.dxo.com/hc/en-us/ar...-DxO-ViewPoint-if-I-already-have-DxO-PhotoLab

Click to expand...

Thanks stormyboy. It was the contents of that link that triggered me to make the post. The user experience part perhaps would benefit from some real user feedback.

For users of DxO PhotoLab 8 Elite and newer, DxO ViewPoint 5 will bring all the same features beside Perspective tools (which are already embedded in DxO PhotoLab 8 Elite).

Click to expand...

You also get some additional tools in PL8 when you also have VP5. These are built into PL8 anyway, but only get turned on if you have a VP licence.

These include the Volume Deformation correction (very useful if you shoot with wide-angle lenses — I use it automatically in every shot), the ReShape Fusion tool (enhanced in this release, and used to warp the grid and to apply local geometric corrections — useful in some images, particularly after you apply perspective correction) and the gimmicky Miniature Effect tool, used to artificially reduce the DoF).

Of these tools, I use Volume Deformation correction automatically in every image (though its effect is minimal till you get below about 28mm equiv focal length), perspective adjustment quite often (say, 10-20% of the time), ReShape in around 1-5% of images, and Miniature Effect almost never.

Ephemeris said:

Please note that the best user experience is offered by the ViewPoint 5 standalone application, which includes a dedicated perspective correction interface, with a special "automatic preview", loupe, and guides.

Click to expand...

I find it's much more useful to have the tools built right into PL8. I can use them at any time with a couple of clicks, and take advantage of all VP features in my PL presets. I never even open the stand-alone ViewPoint 5, as all its features are built right into PL8.

Click to expand...

Thanks Nigel. I very much doubt I would have found that out without playing with the software

Can all of this be done within VP5?

Click to expand...

As I said, I never open VP5. But I think the tools are the same, just in a different UI. There used to be a time when you actually got more options with the VP tools inside PL than inside VP4, but I don't think that's the case with VP5.

But the major problem is that you can't integrate those VP tools with the seamless, non-destructive editing of raw images in PL. If you do everything inside PL (and that includes FilmPack), then you don't even need to remember which tools came from which product: they're all just part of the PL toolset, and can be used at will, in any order, with no transfer files. You can go back later, and change any setting in any tool non-destructively. That all falls down the moment you use a separate product.

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Thanks Nigel.

Sensibly I'll grab a trail and also see how well it integrated into LrC. The options and control look to be more comprehensive than what LrC offers natively.

It seems reasonably priced at £99.

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Digital Nigel said:

Ephemeris said:

Digital Nigel said:

Ephemeris said:

Digital Nigel said:

Ephemeris said:

stormyboy said:

Ephemeris said:

We have been looking at PL8 Elite for the last couple of weeks for a specific project.

Perspective corrections we normally handle within LrC but could potentially use what is available within PL8.

Is there any advantages to having Viewpoint 5 as well ?

Click to expand...

https://support.dxo.com/hc/en-us/ar...-DxO-ViewPoint-if-I-already-have-DxO-PhotoLab

Click to expand...

Thanks stormyboy. It was the contents of that link that triggered me to make the post. The user experience part perhaps would benefit from some real user feedback.

For users of DxO PhotoLab 8 Elite and newer, DxO ViewPoint 5 will bring all the same features beside Perspective tools (which are already embedded in DxO PhotoLab 8 Elite).

Click to expand...

You also get some additional tools in PL8 when you also have VP5. These are built into PL8 anyway, but only get turned on if you have a VP licence.

These include the Volume Deformation correction (very useful if you shoot with wide-angle lenses — I use it automatically in every shot), the ReShape Fusion tool (enhanced in this release, and used to warp the grid and to apply local geometric corrections — useful in some images, particularly after you apply perspective correction) and the gimmicky Miniature Effect tool, used to artificially reduce the DoF).

Of these tools, I use Volume Deformation correction automatically in every image (though its effect is minimal till you get below about 28mm equiv focal length), perspective adjustment quite often (say, 10-20% of the time), ReShape in around 1-5% of images, and Miniature Effect almost never.

Digital Nigel said:

Please note that the best user experience is offered by the ViewPoint 5 standalone application, which includes a dedicated perspective correction interface, with a special "automatic preview", loupe, and guides.

Click to expand...

I find it's much more useful to have the tools built right into PL8. I can use them at any time with a couple of clicks, and take advantage of all VP features in my PL presets. I never even open the stand-alone ViewPoint 5, as all its features are built right into PL8.

Click to expand...

Thanks Nigel. I very much doubt I would have found that out without playing with the software

Can all of this be done within VP5?

Click to expand...

As I said, I never open VP5. But I think the tools are the same, just in a different UI. There used to be a time when you actually got more options with the VP tools inside PL than inside VP4, but I don't think that's the case with VP5.

But the major problem is that you can't integrate those VP tools with the seamless, non-destructive editing of raw images in PL. If you do everything inside PL (and that includes FilmPack), then you don't even need to remember which tools came from which product: they're all just part of the PL toolset, and can be used at will, in any order, with no transfer files. You can go back later, and change any setting in any tool non-destructively. That all falls down the moment you use a separate product.

Click to expand...

Thanks Nigel.

Sensibly I'll grab a trail and also see how well it integrated into LrC. The options and control look to be more comprehensive than what LrC offers natively.

It seems reasonably priced at £99.

Click to expand...

Once you’ve opened and registered VP5, the next time you open PL8 on that machine, you’ll find that the VP tools become available, and can be used in presets. There’s a VP palette, and you can include its tools in your own user-defined tools palette.

Of course, you get the perspective control anyway. Just double-click it for automatic adjustment (which you can reduce if required, as 100% correction sometimes looks ‘wrong’).

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Ephemeris said:

It certainly is a very fast piece of software with some nifty features, low memory usage.

I haven't yet managed to get it to appear as a plugin for LrC

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Workflow – ViewPoint Guidelines

userguides.dxo.com

stormyboy said:

Ephemeris said:

It certainly is a very fast piece of software with some nifty features, low memory usage.

I haven't yet managed to get it to appear as a plugin for LrC

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I think it has to function as an external editor:

https://userguides.dxo.com/viewpoint/en/workflow/

Also, don't underestimate the ALT+ mouse button trick for enlarging the area for a more controlled placement of the cursor crosshairs. It's very helpful.

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stormyboy said:

Ephemeris said:

It certainly is a very fast piece of software with some nifty features, low memory usage.

I haven't yet managed to get it to appear as a plugin for LrC

Click to expand...

I think it has to function as an external editor:

https://userguides.dxo.com/viewpoint/en/workflow/

Also, don't underestimate the ALT+ mouse button trick for enlarging the area for a more controlled placement of the cursor crosshairs. It's very helpful.

Click to expand...

Ephemeris said:

Digital Nigel said:

Ephemeris said:

Digital Nigel said:

Ephemeris said:

Digital Nigel said:

Ephemeris said:

stormyboy said:

Ephemeris said:

We have been looking at PL8 Elite for the last couple of weeks for a specific project.

Perspective corrections we normally handle within LrC but could potentially use what is available within PL8.

Is there any advantages to having Viewpoint 5 as well ?

Click to expand...

https://support.dxo.com/hc/en-us/ar...-DxO-ViewPoint-if-I-already-have-DxO-PhotoLab

Click to expand...

Thanks stormyboy. It was the contents of that link that triggered me to make the post. The user experience part perhaps would benefit from some real user feedback.

For users of DxO PhotoLab 8 Elite and newer, DxO ViewPoint 5 will bring all the same features beside Perspective tools (which are already embedded in DxO PhotoLab 8 Elite).

Click to expand...

You also get some additional tools in PL8 when you also have VP5. These are built into PL8 anyway, but only get turned on if you have a VP licence.

These include the Volume Deformation correction (very useful if you shoot with wide-angle lenses — I use it automatically in every shot), the ReShape Fusion tool (enhanced in this release, and used to warp the grid and to apply local geometric corrections — useful in some images, particularly after you apply perspective correction) and the gimmicky Miniature Effect tool, used to artificially reduce the DoF).

Of these tools, I use Volume Deformation correction automatically in every image (though its effect is minimal till you get below about 28mm equiv focal length), perspective adjustment quite often (say, 10-20% of the time), ReShape in around 1-5% of images, and Miniature Effect almost never.

Ephemeris said:

Please note that the best user experience is offered by the ViewPoint 5 standalone application, which includes a dedicated perspective correction interface, with a special "automatic preview", loupe, and guides.

Click to expand...

I find it's much more useful to have the tools built right into PL8. I can use them at any time with a couple of clicks, and take advantage of all VP features in my PL presets. I never even open the stand-alone ViewPoint 5, as all its features are built right into PL8.

Click to expand...

Thanks Nigel. I very much doubt I would have found that out without playing with the software

Can all of this be done within VP5?

Click to expand...

As I said, I never open VP5. But I think the tools are the same, just in a different UI. There used to be a time when you actually got more options with the VP tools inside PL than inside VP4, but I don't think that's the case with VP5.

But the major problem is that you can't integrate those VP tools with the seamless, non-destructive editing of raw images in PL. If you do everything inside PL (and that includes FilmPack), then you don't even need to remember which tools came from which product: they're all just part of the PL toolset, and can be used at will, in any order, with no transfer files. You can go back later, and change any setting in any tool non-destructively. That all falls down the moment you use a separate product.

Click to expand...

Thanks Nigel.

Sensibly I'll grab a trail and also see how well it integrated into LrC. The options and control look to be more comprehensive than what LrC offers natively.

It seems reasonably priced at £99.

Click to expand...

Once you’ve opened and registered VP5, the next time you open PL8 on that machine, you’ll find that the VP tools become available, and can be used in presets. There’s a VP palette, and you can include its tools in your own user-defined tools palette.

Of course, you get the perspective control anyway. Just double-click it for automatic adjustment (which you can reduce if required, as 100% correction sometimes looks ‘wrong’).

Click to expand...

Thanks Nigel. We are using PL8 for one project at request I would normally be working through Adobe. So will see how it looks as a plugin to LrC and I guess PS.

I've a demo of PL8 Elite on my laptop as it happens so I can look at that also. A route to semi-fully automating perspective correction which is perhaps better then LrC alone. Not that I'm complaining about LrC but anything that can make my life easier and quicker would be fab.

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Digital Nigel said:

Ephemeris said:

Digital Nigel said:

Ephemeris said:

Digital Nigel said:

Ephemeris said:

Digital Nigel said:

Ephemeris said:

stormyboy said:

Ephemeris said:

We have been looking at PL8 Elite for the last couple of weeks for a specific project.

Perspective corrections we normally handle within LrC but could potentially use what is available within PL8.

Is there any advantages to having Viewpoint 5 as well ?

Click to expand...

https://support.dxo.com/hc/en-us/ar...-DxO-ViewPoint-if-I-already-have-DxO-PhotoLab

Click to expand...

Thanks stormyboy. It was the contents of that link that triggered me to make the post. The user experience part perhaps would benefit from some real user feedback.

For users of DxO PhotoLab 8 Elite and newer, DxO ViewPoint 5 will bring all the same features beside Perspective tools (which are already embedded in DxO PhotoLab 8 Elite).

Click to expand...

You also get some additional tools in PL8 when you also have VP5. These are built into PL8 anyway, but only get turned on if you have a VP licence.

These include the Volume Deformation correction (very useful if you shoot with wide-angle lenses — I use it automatically in every shot), the ReShape Fusion tool (enhanced in this release, and used to warp the grid and to apply local geometric corrections — useful in some images, particularly after you apply perspective correction) and the gimmicky Miniature Effect tool, used to artificially reduce the DoF).

Of these tools, I use Volume Deformation correction automatically in every image (though its effect is minimal till you get below about 28mm equiv focal length), perspective adjustment quite often (say, 10-20% of the time), ReShape in around 1-5% of images, and Miniature Effect almost never.

Digital Nigel said:

Please note that the best user experience is offered by the ViewPoint 5 standalone application, which includes a dedicated perspective correction interface, with a special "automatic preview", loupe, and guides.

Click to expand...

I find it's much more useful to have the tools built right into PL8. I can use them at any time with a couple of clicks, and take advantage of all VP features in my PL presets. I never even open the stand-alone ViewPoint 5, as all its features are built right into PL8.

Click to expand...

Thanks Nigel. I very much doubt I would have found that out without playing with the software

Can all of this be done within VP5?

Click to expand...

As I said, I never open VP5. But I think the tools are the same, just in a different UI. There used to be a time when you actually got more options with the VP tools inside PL than inside VP4, but I don't think that's the case with VP5.

But the major problem is that you can't integrate those VP tools with the seamless, non-destructive editing of raw images in PL. If you do everything inside PL (and that includes FilmPack), then you don't even need to remember which tools came from which product: they're all just part of the PL toolset, and can be used at will, in any order, with no transfer files. You can go back later, and change any setting in any tool non-destructively. That all falls down the moment you use a separate product.

Click to expand...

Thanks Nigel.

Sensibly I'll grab a trail and also see how well it integrated into LrC. The options and control look to be more comprehensive than what LrC offers natively.

It seems reasonably priced at £99.

Click to expand...

Once you’ve opened and registered VP5, the next time you open PL8 on that machine, you’ll find that the VP tools become available, and can be used in presets. There’s a VP palette, and you can include its tools in your own user-defined tools palette.

Of course, you get the perspective control anyway. Just double-click it for automatic adjustment (which you can reduce if required, as 100% correction sometimes looks ‘wrong’).

Click to expand...

Thanks Nigel. We are using PL8 for one project at request I would normally be working through Adobe. So will see how it looks as a plugin to LrC and I guess PS.

I've a demo of PL8 Elite on my laptop as it happens so I can look at that also. A route to semi-fully automating perspective correction which is perhaps better then LrC alone. Not that I'm complaining about LrC but anything that can make my life easier and quicker would be fab.

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This shows how VP's tools are fully integrated into PL8. In fact, they are designed as PL features, with VP just being a separate subset.


VP tools can be included in user-defined palettes

Here's this image before any VP tools have been applied:


Before VP tools applied: the slim woman on the right has been fattened.

With the perspective automatically fixed with one click, and volume deformation corrections tuned on (In fact, I normally have them applied by default):


Note how the slim woman on the right is no longer fattened

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Ephemeris said:

We have been looking at PL8 Elite for the last couple of weeks for a specific project.

Perspective corrections we normally handle within LrC but could potentially use what is available within PL8.

Is there any advantages to having Viewpoint 5 as well ?

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