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This is a screw-on (17mm mount) lens optimized for the telephoto cameras of the iPhone 15 Pro Max, 16 Pro & Pro Max, and the Samsung 24 Ultra. It will deliver a 240mm-equivalent image at full resolution, and comes with a couple of magnetically-attached 200mm & 300mm macro filters that provide an easy-to-carry macro capability. I’ve only had this lens for a few days now, but my first impressions are very good.

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The macro filters are a welcome addition.

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Good luck and let us know after a while how you like it.

i have tried a few of these add on lenses that require a proprietary case. They do work quite well but I just don’t like them enough for them to work for me.



hopefully these will work for you and your needs/style of work!!!
 
I looked at the Reeflex product page and I get confused. The manufacturer claims that it is a 10x magnification lens but it only gets to 240mm when paired with the "5x" camera. So it either is a 2x lens or it goes up to 1200mm.

I guess its a 2x and the "10x" is a false claim. For a 2x magnification lens it is quite expensive and I wonder if it has any benefit compared to just cropping the 50MP image. The aperture will be darker by 2 f-stops and resolution will probably also suffer.

Can you see a better result with this 2x lens? I would be surprised if so, even in bright sunlight.
 
breschdlingsgsaelz said:
I looked at the Reeflex product page and I get confused. The manufacturer claims that it is a 10x magnification lens but it only gets to 240mm when paired with the "5x" camera. So it either is a 2x lens or it goes up to 1200mm.

I guess its a 2x and the "10x" is a false claim. For a 2x magnification lens it is quite expensive and I wonder if it has any benefit compared to just cropping the 50MP image. The aperture will be darker by 2 f-stops and resolution will probably also suffer.

Can you see a better result with this 2x lens? I would be surprised if so, even in bright sunlight.
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Well, it’s both a 2x or a 10x, depending on where you start. It multiples the 5x (120mm equivalent) camera by 2, so it’s a 2x optical magnification, or 240mm equivalent. But it’s multiplying the 5x camera by 2, so it’s also a total of 10x, depending on where you start. And yes, the difference between a 2x/240mm shot and a 1x/120mm shot cropped to the same frame is dramatically different. Because It’s an optical zoom, not a digital crop. I’ll try to post a side-by-side shot taken from the same place when I have time.
 
The resulting system may be 10x the magnification of the "main" camera, but the lens itself is only 2x, so writing 10x is misleading at best.

And since the resulting lens is 2 stops slower and very likely reduces image quality further I highly doubt that it will be better than a crop of the 50MP image which already doesn't deliver full resolution. It is diffraction limited anyway.

I would really like to see a sample picture compared.
 
breschdlingsgsaelz said:
The resulting system may be 10x the magnification of the "main" camera, but the lens itself is only 2x, so writing 10x is misleading at best.

And since the resulting lens is 2 stops slower and very likely reduces image quality further I highly doubt that it will be better than a crop of the 50MP image which already doesn't deliver full resolution. It is diffraction limited anyway.

I would really like to see a sample picture compared.
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AFAIK. the Iphone 16 pro only has a 5 x 12 MP sensor, not 50 MP. So that cropping the image to get the same FL would give poor resultS. Or am I missing something?
 
Sorry I missed that. I was thinking of the S24 Ultra for which this lens is also claimed to fit. That has a 50 MP telephoto and thought Apple would be no worse.
 
breschdlingsgsaelz said:
Sorry I missed that. I was thinking of the S24 Ultra for which this lens is also claimed to fit. That has a 50 MP telephoto and thought Apple would be no worse.
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That's Apple marketing: not all at once.

2024, the UWA on the 16 gets a 48 MP sensor, but the 5x stays with 12 MP, where 48 MP or more would help to get an acceptable 10x image. But why bother when sales are doing so well?

2025, I bet the 5x on the 17 will get a 48 MP (or more) too...
 
OK, here's a quick and dirty comparison between two shots, both taken at the same time and from the same spot. Both are straight out of the camera, with no adjustments whatsoever. The top one is with the (5x/120mm equivalent) telephoto camera with the lens mounted, and the bottom one without the lens:

240mm
240mm

120mm
120mm

And here's a comparison, cropped to show the same part of the image:

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I made no effort here to match the color or exposure. I'm just attempting to show the difference in detail. Please make sure to click on "original size" to see the difference more clearly.
 
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WoodWorks said:
OK, here's a quick and dirty comparison between two shots, both taken at the same time and from the same spot. Both are straight out of the camera, with no adjustments whatsoever. The top one is with the (5x/120mm equivalent) telephoto camera with the lens mounted, and the bottom one without the lens:

240mm
240mm

120mm
120mm

And here's a comparison, cropped to show the same part of the image:

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I made no effort here to match the color or exposure. I'm just attempting to show the difference in detail. Please make sure to click on "original size" to see the difference more clearly.
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Certainly beneficial - though AUD$350 is a bit steep, even with 2x/3x macro attachments.

I guess one is facing the same limitation as on my S23U, which has native 10x, paired with a small sensor - works fine in a good light...
 
WoodWorks said:
André BARELIER said:
2025, I bet the 5x on the 17 will get a 48 MP (or more) too...
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That the current rumor. And if true, this lens should really shine.
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Yes, that's why I'm waiting for the 17 pro so I can switch back to Apple, not for the performance, because for the moment the Pixel 9 pro does the job perfectly, but for reasons of convenience.
We'll see, depending on the price, which is likely to be very high, as usual with Apple.

That said, every monthly update from Google brings improvements to my P9P, that might just keep me at Google.
 
WoodWorks said:
OK, here's a quick and dirty comparison between two shots, both taken at the same time and from the same spot. Both are straight out of the camera, with no adjustments whatsoever. The top one is with the (5x/120mm equivalent) telephoto camera with the lens mounted, and the bottom one without the lens:

240mm
240mm

120mm
120mm

And here's a comparison, cropped to show the same part of the image:

a0f76e5e766f446f93abef1ac0262a93.jpg

I made no effort here to match the color or exposure. I'm just attempting to show the difference in detail. Please make sure to click on "original size" to see the difference more clearly.
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The difference is obvious. It seems this add on lens is a very good quality one.

Thank you for the useful samples.



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André
 
Wonder whether this lens would also work (well) with the 77mm of the iPhone 15 Pro?

At least according to Reeflexstore's website:

"Introducing the very first lens designed specifically for the iPhone 16 Pro, 16 Pro Max, 15 Pro Max's 5x Telephoto cameras, but also compatible with previous flagship models - like the iPhone 15 Pro, iPhone 14 & 13 Pro/Pro Max ... "
 
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MN13 said:
Wonder whether this lens would also work (well) with the 77mm of the iPhone 15 Pro?

At least according to Reeflexstore's website:

"Introducing the very first lens designed specifically for the iPhone 16 Pro, 16 Pro Max, 15 Pro Max's 5x Telephoto cameras, but also compatible with previous flagship models - like the iPhone 15 Pro, iPhone 14 & 13 Pro/Pro Max ... "
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This add on lens is just a high quality a 2x converter.

You get a 240 mm optical magnification with a smartphone sporting a 5x 120 mm equivalent optical lens.

With a 15 pro, you'll get a 154 mm equivalent lens. Is it worth the money and the hassle?

IMO, this kind of add on lens is useful if you often need reach, and if you have time to set it on the phone (unless you can leave it attached all the time, which is unlikely, and ruins the purpose of smartphone photography).

But that's just my opinion. YMMV
 
MN13 said:
Wonder whether this lens would also work (well) with the 77mm of the iPhone 15 Pro?
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I haven't seen any examples of that anywhere online. But just the fact that they list it as an option makes me think that it should work, if without the reach of the 120mm camera.
 
André BARELIER said:
IMO, this kind of add on lens is useful if you often need reach, and if you have time to set it on the phone (unless you can leave it attached all the time, which is unlikely, and ruins the purpose of smartphone photography).
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Yes, I'm certainly not going to leave it screwed on all of the time. But I'm an avid shooter of compressed landscapes, so I think I'm going to be taking it with me a lot. As long as I'm wearing a jacket, or cargo pants, it won't be a hassle to bring along.

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It also comes with a small pouch that holds the lens and two macro filters, and there's a small carabiner that would allow you to attach it to a belt loop or something.

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But the dork factor would be a little too high for me. ;-)
 
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André BARELIER said:
André BARELIER said:
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This add on lens is just a high quality a 2x converter.

You get a 240 mm optical magnification with a smartphone sporting a 5x 120 mm equivalent optical lens.

With a 15 pro, you'll get a 154 mm equivalent lens. Is it worth the money and the hassle?
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Thanks for the reply.

Yes, I am aware that it is just a 2x converter. Based on past experiences, I would use this 2x converter in conjunction preferably with a tripod and remote/time release.

My problem is that the 17mm threaded backplate of my Neewer PA023 cage covers the wide angle lens and not the tele lens. Apparently there is no Neewer backplate with a 17mm thread for the tele lens.

MN
 
MN13 said:
My problem is that the 17mm threaded backplate of my Neewer PA023 cage covers the wide angle lens and not the tele lens. Apparently there is no Neewer backplate with a 17mm thread for the tele lens.
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I'm using Neewer's phone case with 17mm threads for all of the lenses, and it comes with an adapter that accepts 67mm filters. So if you can live without the cage...
 
WoodWorks said:
MN13 said:
My problem is that the 17mm threaded backplate of my Neewer PA023 cage covers the wide angle lens and not the tele lens. Apparently there is no Neewer backplate with a 17mm thread for the tele lens.
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I'm using Neewer's phone case with 17mm threads for all of the lenses, and it comes with an adapter that accepts 67mm filters. So if you can live without the cage...
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Unfortunately, not the Neewer PA023 cage for the iPhone 15 Pro.

"The 17mm threaded backplate supports a 10X wide angle phone lens, 8mm fisheye lens, 300X microscope close-up lens, or 6X telephoto lens for versatile shooting with the 48MP main camera." https://neewer.com/products/neewer-pa023-metal-cage-video-rig-iphone-15-pro-66603710

Main camera, i.e. 23mm

Apparently different for the NEEWER Phone Case and NEEWER Cage PA073 for the iPhone 16 Pro.

"17mm threaded lens mounts on the positions of the Main Camera and Telephoto Camera allow you to attach 17mm phone lenses for creative mobile photography and videography"

Good to know!
 
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