I think I finally figured out my travel kit

sirhawkeye64 · Sep 9, 2024

SeanESean said:
s_grins said:

Finally, if one wants to enjoy the travel, he needs crop sensor and Z DX kit lenses.

Click to expand...

My Z7 with 24-120 begs to differ, Sir.

The 45MP cameras just offer options for cropping and more resolutoin, and while I agree, there is nothing wrong with a Z50 kit. To some people having a smaller kit and less gear to deal with greatly outweighs the overall image quality differences. And I think that's one thing people do forget when considering travel photography. Less is better, smaller is generally better, not that the Z7 series and the 24-120 are a bad combo, as that is probably the sweet spot, but the Z50 with the two lenses is also a good option too. You just have fewer pixels to play around with later, BUT if you use DX crop mode on your Z7/Z8/Z9 then you have 2MP less to use later, so it's a trade-off. Size/weight and a few more MP for higher resolution off the bat.

What I've been realizing is that at the end of the day, it's all about the photos, and less about the lenses, cameras or megapixels. 45MP does give you more flexibility, but that's not to say a Z50 can't do a good job. It just depends on what your priorities are.

--
PLEASE NOTE: I usually unsubscribe from forums and comments after a period of time, so if I do not respond, that is likely the reason. Feel free to PM me if you have a questions or need clarification about a comment I made.

Bob A L · Sep 9, 2024

That's the reason I don't use my 70-300 on my Zfc. The lens combined with the FTZ are just more than I like the feel of. So the 50-250 took it's place for me and I have not missed the extra 50mm on the long end especially when I factor in the weight and physical size.

Bob A L · Sep 9, 2024

Or the Z50 or Zfc or Z30 with the 18-140 is the real travel winner in my book. I have the ability to make photos with fields of view from 27mm to 500mm in FF terms with a really compact package. But we will never all want or like the same thing. If we did we would all drive white dodge neon's or something just as crazy.

Plankowner110 · Nov 2, 2024

All my life I carried heavy Nikon cameras and lenses on trips, but now at age 75, my travel kit is simply the Nikon Zfc with Nikkor Z DX 16-50mm zoom and Nikkor Z DX 24mm f1.7 prime. Super compact and light.

NikonMike · Nov 3, 2024

I'm going in a similar direction. In a recent trip out west I took my D810 and Sigma 100-400, 24-120g, 20mmg, Z50 with the two kit lenses, and that was way too much weight and bulk, especially with the 100-400. I'm now thinking about getting a z7ii with the 24-120Z, and then just pair that with my 20 1.8 and 50-250z for travel, or maybe just stick with the Z50 and save a lot of money. That 50-250 is a razor sharp lens.

Plankowner110 · Nov 3, 2024

NikonMike said:
I'm going in a similar direction. In a recent trip out west I took my D810 and Sigma 100-400, 24-120g, 20mmg, Z50 with the two kit lenses, and that was way too much weight and bulk, especially with the 100-400. I'm now thinking about getting a z7ii with the 24-120Z, and then just pair that with my 20 1.8 and 50-250z for travel, or maybe just stick with the Z50 and save a lot of money. That 50-250 is a razor sharp lens.

I probably should get the Z DX 50-250 for my Zfc kit.

madecov · Nov 3, 2024

Plankowner110 said:
NikonMike said:

I'm going in a similar direction. In a recent trip out west I took my D810 and Sigma 100-400, 24-120g, 20mmg, Z50 with the two kit lenses, and that was way too much weight and bulk, especially with the 100-400. I'm now thinking about getting a z7ii with the 24-120Z, and then just pair that with my 20 1.8 and 50-250z for travel, or maybe just stick with the Z50 and save a lot of money. That 50-250 is a razor sharp lens.

Click to expand...

I probably should get the Z DX 50-250 for my Zfc kit.

quattro88 · Nov 4, 2024

I tried Z 50-250 on Z7 a few years ago and got excellent results. Back then I still had Z7 and Z50 with both DX lenses. Today I use Zf with Tamron 70-300 in Z mount and sometimes switch to DX mode. I get excellent shots with this lens in both modes.

PHXAZCRAIG · Nov 4, 2024

toomanycanons said:
14mm FF is pretty wide and yet you show us a bunch of cropped telephoto shots, not complaining, but I can just hear that 14-30 crying "what about me??"

I like to shoot underwater, and I have only two lens choices to go on my Z9 there. 14-30 and 105macro.

Turns out I didn't use my macro for an entire year, so just shot the 14-30. I also started learning to do video, and it seems video really likes the wide end of a wide zoom.

Here are a few 14-30 shots from my underwater travels.

Truk Lagoon:

Roatan

--
Phoenix Arizona Craig
www.cjcphoto.net
"I miss the days when I was nostalgic."

George 68 · Nov 4, 2024

quattro88 said:
I tried Z 50-250 on Z7 a few years ago and got excellent results. Back then I still had Z7 and Z50 with both DX lenses. Today I use Zf with Tamron 70-300 in Z mount and sometimes switch to DX mode. I get excellent shots with this lens in both modes.

The new Tamron 50-300 will be an appealing lens for travel to anyone with a mixed DX/FX kit like myself if they port it across to Z mount.

I have the 70-300 like you and I do use it with both cameras but, aside from the better IQ reported, the VR of new lens would make it more reliable on the DX camera and the 50mm wide end would open up the possibilities of a very lightweight 12-300 (DX) or 14-300 (FX) two lens kit or reduce the amount of lens changing required in a three lens kit.

sirhawkeye64 · Nov 4, 2024

George 68 said:
quattro88 said:

I tried Z 50-250 on Z7 a few years ago and got excellent results. Back then I still had Z7 and Z50 with both DX lenses. Today I use Zf with Tamron 70-300 in Z mount and sometimes switch to DX mode. I get excellent shots with this lens in both modes.

Click to expand...

The new Tamron 50-300 will be an appealing lens for travel to anyone with a mixed DX/FX kit like myself if they port it across to Z mount.

I have the 70-300 like you and I do use it with both cameras but, aside from the better IQ reported, the VR of new lens would make it more reliable on the DX camera and the 50mm wide end would open up the possibilities of a very lightweight 12-300 (DX) or 14-300 (FX) two lens kit or reduce the amount of lens changing required in a three lens kit.

I think even a DX 14-300mm might end up being a bit big and probably why nobody has tried to make one (DX 18-300 could be done as it has been done in the past with DSLRs). A 14-300 FX would have to be slow to be anywhere near "portable" I mean I would like an all-in-one lens too that goes from say 16mm to 200mm for FF but I doubt we'll ever get that, or it would be slow to keep the size/weight down. I mean it would probably be at least as big (and slow) as a 28-400.

I just hope that for Tamron's sake, if they ever do a Mark II of the 70-300, they add VC (or if NIkon is listening, they make a Z VR version or something similar like a 70-350 with VR).

--
PLEASE NOTE: I usually unsubscribe from forums and comments after a period of time, so if I do not respond, that is likely the reason. Feel free to PM me if you have a questions or need clarification about a comment I made.

George 68 · Nov 4, 2024

sirhawkeye64 said:
George 68 said:

quattro88 said:

I tried Z 50-250 on Z7 a few years ago and got excellent results. Back then I still had Z7 and Z50 with both DX lenses. Today I use Zf with Tamron 70-300 in Z mount and sometimes switch to DX mode. I get excellent shots with this lens in both modes.

Click to expand...

The new Tamron 50-300 will be an appealing lens for travel to anyone with a mixed DX/FX kit like myself if they port it across to Z mount.

I have the 70-300 like you and I do use it with both cameras but, aside from the better IQ reported, the VR of new lens would make it more reliable on the DX camera and the 50mm wide end would open up the possibilities of a very lightweight 12-300 (DX) or 14-300 (FX) two lens kit or reduce the amount of lens changing required in a three lens kit.

Click to expand...

I think even a DX 14-300mm might end up being a bit big and probably why nobody has tried to make one (DX 18-300 could be done as it has been done in the past with DSLRs). A 14-300 FX would have to be slow to be anywhere near "portable" I mean I would like an all-in-one lens too that goes from say 16mm to 200mm for FF but I doubt we'll ever get that, or it would be slow to keep the size/weight down. I mean it would probably be at least as big (and slow) as a 28-400.

I think you might have skimmed over the “two lens kit” part. So for DX it would be the 12-28 plus the 50-300 Tamron and for FX it would be the 14-30 plus 50-300 Tamron.

sirhawkeye64 said:
I just hope that for Tamron's sake, if they ever do a Mark II of the 70-300, they add VC (or if NIkon is listening, they make a Z VR version or something similar like a 70-350 with VR).

I’m pretty sure the 50-300 is Tamron’s version 2 of the 70-300 and it does have VR - sort of the point of my post really

sirhawkeye64 · Nov 4, 2024

George 68 said:
sirhawkeye64 said:

George 68 said:

quattro88 said:

I tried Z 50-250 on Z7 a few years ago and got excellent results. Back then I still had Z7 and Z50 with both DX lenses. Today I use Zf with Tamron 70-300 in Z mount and sometimes switch to DX mode. I get excellent shots with this lens in both modes.

Click to expand...

The new Tamron 50-300 will be an appealing lens for travel to anyone with a mixed DX/FX kit like myself if they port it across to Z mount.

I have the 70-300 like you and I do use it with both cameras but, aside from the better IQ reported, the VR of new lens would make it more reliable on the DX camera and the 50mm wide end would open up the possibilities of a very lightweight 12-300 (DX) or 14-300 (FX) two lens kit or reduce the amount of lens changing required in a three lens kit.

Click to expand...

I think even a DX 14-300mm might end up being a bit big and probably why nobody has tried to make one (DX 18-300 could be done as it has been done in the past with DSLRs). A 14-300 FX would have to be slow to be anywhere near "portable" I mean I would like an all-in-one lens too that goes from say 16mm to 200mm for FF but I doubt we'll ever get that, or it would be slow to keep the size/weight down. I mean it would probably be at least as big (and slow) as a 28-400.

Click to expand...

I think you might have skimmed over the “two lens kit” part. So for DX it would be the 12-28 plus the 50-300 Tamron and for FX it would be the 14-30 plus 50-300 Tamron.

George 68 said:

I just hope that for Tamron's sake, if they ever do a Mark II of the 70-300, they add VC (or if NIkon is listening, they make a Z VR version or something similar like a 70-350 with VR).

Click to expand...

I’m pretty sure the 50-300 is Tamron’s version 2 of the 70-300 and it does have VR - sort of the point of my post really

Yes I thought you wre maybe talking about a single lens, which doesn't exist for that focal range. The 50-400 on DX though might be kind of big. However I think it's the 50-400 you're talking about perhaps (or the 70-300). There is no 50-300 at least in Z mount form.

--
PLEASE NOTE: I usually unsubscribe from forums and comments after a period of time, so if I do not respond, that is likely the reason. Feel free to PM me if you have a questions or need clarification about a comment I made.

George 68 · Nov 4, 2024

sirhawkeye64 said:
George 68 said:

sirhawkeye64 said:

George 68 said:

quattro88 said:

I tried Z 50-250 on Z7 a few years ago and got excellent results. Back then I still had Z7 and Z50 with both DX lenses. Today I use Zf with Tamron 70-300 in Z mount and sometimes switch to DX mode. I get excellent shots with this lens in both modes.

Click to expand...

The new Tamron 50-300 will be an appealing lens for travel to anyone with a mixed DX/FX kit like myself if they port it across to Z mount.

I have the 70-300 like you and I do use it with both cameras but, aside from the better IQ reported, the VR of new lens would make it more reliable on the DX camera and the 50mm wide end would open up the possibilities of a very lightweight 12-300 (DX) or 14-300 (FX) two lens kit or reduce the amount of lens changing required in a three lens kit.

Click to expand...

I think even a DX 14-300mm might end up being a bit big and probably why nobody has tried to make one (DX 18-300 could be done as it has been done in the past with DSLRs). A 14-300 FX would have to be slow to be anywhere near "portable" I mean I would like an all-in-one lens too that goes from say 16mm to 200mm for FF but I doubt we'll ever get that, or it would be slow to keep the size/weight down. I mean it would probably be at least as big (and slow) as a 28-400.

Click to expand...

I think you might have skimmed over the “two lens kit” part. So for DX it would be the 12-28 plus the 50-300 Tamron and for FX it would be the 14-30 plus 50-300 Tamron.

sirhawkeye64 said:

I just hope that for Tamron's sake, if they ever do a Mark II of the 70-300, they add VC (or if NIkon is listening, they make a Z VR version or something similar like a 70-350 with VR).

Click to expand...

I’m pretty sure the 50-300 is Tamron’s version 2 of the 70-300 and it does have VR - sort of the point of my post really

Click to expand...

Yes I thought you wre maybe talking about a single lens, which doesn't exist for that focal range. The 50-400 on DX though might be kind of big. However I think it's the 50-400 you're talking about perhaps (or the 70-300). There is no 50-300 at least in Z mount form.

In this case, I think you may have skimmed over:

The new Tamron 50-300 will be an appealing lens for travel to anyone with a mixed DX/FX kit like myself if they port it across to Z mount.

Hilifer · Nov 4, 2024

Great underwater shots, Craig! Still going to Roatan these days?

sirhawkeye64 · Nov 4, 2024

George 68 said:
sirhawkeye64 said:

George 68 said:

sirhawkeye64 said:

George 68 said:

quattro88 said:

I tried Z 50-250 on Z7 a few years ago and got excellent results. Back then I still had Z7 and Z50 with both DX lenses. Today I use Zf with Tamron 70-300 in Z mount and sometimes switch to DX mode. I get excellent shots with this lens in both modes.

Click to expand...

The new Tamron 50-300 will be an appealing lens for travel to anyone with a mixed DX/FX kit like myself if they port it across to Z mount.

I have the 70-300 like you and I do use it with both cameras but, aside from the better IQ reported, the VR of new lens would make it more reliable on the DX camera and the 50mm wide end would open up the possibilities of a very lightweight 12-300 (DX) or 14-300 (FX) two lens kit or reduce the amount of lens changing required in a three lens kit.

Click to expand...

I think even a DX 14-300mm might end up being a bit big and probably why nobody has tried to make one (DX 18-300 could be done as it has been done in the past with DSLRs). A 14-300 FX would have to be slow to be anywhere near "portable" I mean I would like an all-in-one lens too that goes from say 16mm to 200mm for FF but I doubt we'll ever get that, or it would be slow to keep the size/weight down. I mean it would probably be at least as big (and slow) as a 28-400.

Click to expand...

I think you might have skimmed over the “two lens kit” part. So for DX it would be the 12-28 plus the 50-300 Tamron and for FX it would be the 14-30 plus 50-300 Tamron.

George 68 said:

I just hope that for Tamron's sake, if they ever do a Mark II of the 70-300, they add VC (or if NIkon is listening, they make a Z VR version or something similar like a 70-350 with VR).

Click to expand...

I’m pretty sure the 50-300 is Tamron’s version 2 of the 70-300 and it does have VR - sort of the point of my post really

Click to expand...

Yes I thought you wre maybe talking about a single lens, which doesn't exist for that focal range. The 50-400 on DX though might be kind of big. However I think it's the 50-400 you're talking about perhaps (or the 70-300). There is no 50-300 at least in Z mount form.

Click to expand...

In this case, I think you may have skimmed over:

The new Tamron 50-300 will be an appealing lens for travel to anyone with a mixed DX/FX kit like myself if they port it across to Z mount.

It would but they already have the 70-300 so it may not be a priority or if it was to be a DX only lens, Sigma might be the only option (since it seems the two companies are divided right down the middle: ones makes only FF, the other makes only APSC and that was probably intentional by Nikon). Although it doe seem that the same at least for Sigma is true for Canon too (APSC only).

--
PLEASE NOTE: I usually unsubscribe from forums and comments after a period of time, so if I do not respond, that is likely the reason. Feel free to PM me if you have a questions or need clarification about a comment I made.

George 68 · Nov 4, 2024

sirhawkeye64 said:
George 68 said:

sirhawkeye64 said:

George 68 said:

sirhawkeye64 said:

George 68 said:

The new Tamron 50-300 will be an appealing lens for travel to anyone with a mixed DX/FX kit like myself if they port it across to Z mount.

I have the 70-300 like you and I do use it with both cameras but, aside from the better IQ reported, the VR of new lens would make it more reliable on the DX camera and the 50mm wide end would open up the possibilities of a very lightweight 12-300 (DX) or 14-300 (FX) two lens kit or reduce the amount of lens changing required in a three lens kit.

Click to expand...

I think even a DX 14-300mm might end up being a bit big and probably why nobody has tried to make one (DX 18-300 could be done as it has been done in the past with DSLRs). A 14-300 FX would have to be slow to be anywhere near "portable" I mean I would like an all-in-one lens too that goes from say 16mm to 200mm for FF but I doubt we'll ever get that, or it would be slow to keep the size/weight down. I mean it would probably be at least as big (and slow) as a 28-400.

Click to expand...

I think you might have skimmed over the “two lens kit” part. So for DX it would be the 12-28 plus the 50-300 Tamron and for FX it would be the 14-30 plus 50-300 Tamron.

sirhawkeye64 said:

I just hope that for Tamron's sake, if they ever do a Mark II of the 70-300, they add VC (or if NIkon is listening, they make a Z VR version or something similar like a 70-350 with VR).

Click to expand...

I’m pretty sure the 50-300 is Tamron’s version 2 of the 70-300 and it does have VR - sort of the point of my post really

Click to expand...

Yes I thought you wre maybe talking about a single lens, which doesn't exist for that focal range. The 50-400 on DX though might be kind of big. However I think it's the 50-400 you're talking about perhaps (or the 70-300). There is no 50-300 at least in Z mount form.

Click to expand...

In this case, I think you may have skimmed over:

The new Tamron 50-300 will be an appealing lens for travel to anyone with a mixed DX/FX kit like myself if they port it across to Z mount.

Click to expand...

It would but they already have the 70-300 so it may not be a priority

They had the 70-300 for Sony but they've essentially replaced it with the 50-300 VC so there was sufficient priority there.

sirhawkeye64 said:
or if it was to be a DX only lens,

Why would they develop a completely separate DX lens for Nikon rather than just port over their existing 50-300 optical design?

sirhawkeye64 said:
Sigma might be the only option (since it seems the two companies are divided right down the middle: ones makes only FF, the other makes only APSC and that was probably intentional by Nikon). Although it doe seem that the same at least for Sigma is true for Canon too (APSC only).

As per my original post, only an FX lens (which the 50-300 is) would add versatility to both FXand DX kits.

sirhawkeye64 · Nov 5, 2024

George 68 said:
sirhawkeye64 said:

George 68 said:

sirhawkeye64 said:

George 68 said:

sirhawkeye64 said:

George 68 said:

The new Tamron 50-300 will be an appealing lens for travel to anyone with a mixed DX/FX kit like myself if they port it across to Z mount.

I have the 70-300 like you and I do use it with both cameras but, aside from the better IQ reported, the VR of new lens would make it more reliable on the DX camera and the 50mm wide end would open up the possibilities of a very lightweight 12-300 (DX) or 14-300 (FX) two lens kit or reduce the amount of lens changing required in a three lens kit.

Click to expand...

I think even a DX 14-300mm might end up being a bit big and probably why nobody has tried to make one (DX 18-300 could be done as it has been done in the past with DSLRs). A 14-300 FX would have to be slow to be anywhere near "portable" I mean I would like an all-in-one lens too that goes from say 16mm to 200mm for FF but I doubt we'll ever get that, or it would be slow to keep the size/weight down. I mean it would probably be at least as big (and slow) as a 28-400.

Click to expand...

I think you might have skimmed over the “two lens kit” part. So for DX it would be the 12-28 plus the 50-300 Tamron and for FX it would be the 14-30 plus 50-300 Tamron.

George 68 said:

I just hope that for Tamron's sake, if they ever do a Mark II of the 70-300, they add VC (or if NIkon is listening, they make a Z VR version or something similar like a 70-350 with VR).

Click to expand...

I’m pretty sure the 50-300 is Tamron’s version 2 of the 70-300 and it does have VR - sort of the point of my post really

Click to expand...

Yes I thought you wre maybe talking about a single lens, which doesn't exist for that focal range. The 50-400 on DX though might be kind of big. However I think it's the 50-400 you're talking about perhaps (or the 70-300). There is no 50-300 at least in Z mount form.

Click to expand...

In this case, I think you may have skimmed over:

The new Tamron 50-300 will be an appealing lens for travel to anyone with a mixed DX/FX kit like myself if they port it across to Z mount.

Click to expand...

It would but they already have the 70-300 so it may not be a priority

Click to expand...

They had the 70-300 for Sony but they've essentially replaced it with the 50-300 VC so there was sufficient priority there.

Perhaps, but the E-mount is also a more mature mount. Now obviously the RF and Z mounts are here to stay, but some companies may be hesitatnt to dump a lot of money into these mounts still. Or there may be limitations that are imposed by the OEMs (which seems to be the case for some things).

George 68 said:
George 68 said:

or if it was to be a DX only lens,

Click to expand...

Why would they develop a completely separate DX lens for Nikon rather than just port over their existing 50-300 optical design?

George 68 said:

Sigma might be the only option (since it seems the two companies are divided right down the middle: ones makes only FF, the other makes only APSC and that was probably intentional by Nikon). Although it doe seem that the same at least for Sigma is true bfor Canon too (APSC only).

Click to expand...

As per my original post, only an FX lens (which the 50-300 is) would add versatility to both FXand DX kits.

I don't really think a 50-300 is going to really add anything, and I believe the primary reason that Tamron did that was to compete with the Sony 70-300 and 70-300 basically. There is no competition from Nikon that I know of aside from the AFP 70-300 which is not a native Z lens anyway. It just seems a 50-300 and a 70-300 are a bit redundant UNLESS it had VC. But the more likely thing I think will happen is Tamron will do a G2 of the 70-300 for Z, and include VC.

It also sounds like a lot of people held onto their F-mount 70-300 lenses anyway, so the market for such a zoom lens may not be as big as it used to be, and the 70-300 Tamron already fills in the gap for those who want a native Z lens.

--
PLEASE NOTE: I usually unsubscribe from forums and comments after a period of time, so if I do not respond, that is likely the reason. Feel free to PM me if you have a questions or need clarification about a comment I made.

George 68 · Nov 6, 2024

sirhawkeye64 said:
I don't really think a 50-300 is going to really add anything,

It will add 20mm at the wide end and VC

sirhawkeye64 said:
and I believe the primary reason that Tamron did that was to compete with the Sony 70-300 and 70-300 basically. There is no competition from Nikon that I know of aside from the AFP 70-300 which is not a native Z lens anyway. It just seems a 50-300 and a 70-300 are a bit redundant UNLESS it had VC.

It does have VC

sirhawkeye64 said:
But the more likely thing I think will happen is Tamron will do a G2 of the 70-300 for Z, and include VC.

Why would they redesign a 70-300 with VC which would be a completely new design, when they have an optically superior 50-300 design already that would only need adaption to the mount?

Forgive me for saying but your replies to me come across as having not read my original post and not having not looked at the Tamron 50-300 specs.

I think I finally figured out my travel kit

Forum Pro

Forum Pro

Forum Pro

Leading Member

Senior Member

Leading Member

Veteran Member

Senior Member

Forum Pro

Senior Member

Forum Pro

Senior Member

Forum Pro

Senior Member

Senior Member

Forum Pro

Senior Member

Forum Pro

Senior Member

Similar threads

Keyboard shortcuts