Searching for a digital camera

JohnR said:

Can anyone give me the pros/cons of the Ricoh RDC-7 camera. I've
just begun to investigate digital cameras. I would like a small
3+mpix rated camera. I've looked at the following cameras Sony
DSC-P1, Canon S20, Fujifilm 4700 and not so small Nikon 990. I've
seen each of these in person however can not find anywhere other
than the internet the RDC-7. The writeups seem good on the RDC-7
but so do the other cameras. I've ssen comparison pictures with
these and the RDC-7 looks as good or better in the photos on the
screen. Anyway before I get too winded here I would like to know
why people but this camera over the above mentioned.

Thanks to anyone who replies.

Sure wish I could find somewhere to actually see this camera.

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Art Carpet said:

If you give us a general idea where you live, someone may know
where you can find one to look at. You may live next door to Rose!

As far as the cameras you have mentioned, how small do you want?
If you want to put it in your pocket, you are pretty much limited
to the Fujifilm 4700 or the RDC-7. However, you said you want
3+mpix which eliminates the Fujifilm 4700. It's only 2.3mpix.

If you are considering the Nikon, I suggest you check out the
Olympus 3030Z or wait until March for the 3040Z.

Good luck,

Art

JohnR said:

Can anyone give me the pros/cons of the Ricoh RDC-7 camera. I've
just begun to investigate digital cameras. I would like a small
3+mpix rated camera. I've looked at the following cameras Sony
DSC-P1, Canon S20, Fujifilm 4700 and not so small Nikon 990. I've
seen each of these in person however can not find anywhere other
than the internet the RDC-7. The writeups seem good on the RDC-7
but so do the other cameras. I've ssen comparison pictures with
these and the RDC-7 looks as good or better in the photos on the
screen. Anyway before I get too winded here I would like to know
why people but this camera over the above mentioned.

Thanks to anyone who replies.

Sure wish I could find somewhere to actually see this camera.

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JohnR said:

Anyway I live around Atlanta GA. I would like a pocketable camera.
The Sony is small but a little thick. Seems to have good reviews.
I started wanting the RDC-7 then moved to the Sony DSC-P1 now back
to the
RDC-7. Somewhere in between was the Fujifilm 4700 but it seem to
over satuarate colors.(What do you think?)

Seems the more I read the more confused I get. I like the zoom
while in playback mode the Sony offers. Seems you can reframe after
you zoom. Can the RDC-7 do this? Also can the RDC-7 show
thumbnails on the LCD?

Also I recently read the RDC-7 was slow from the time you snap the
shot until the camera actually took the picture. Is this slower
than most others? One more thing I heard was the sensitivity
feadback of the button snapping the shot was not good. Any
comments on that.

Thanks again....let me know if there is anywhere around Atlanta I
can actually see the RDC-7

John

Art Carpet said:

If you give us a general idea where you live, someone may know
where you can find one to look at. You may live next door to Rose!

As far as the cameras you have mentioned, how small do you want?
If you want to put it in your pocket, you are pretty much limited
to the Fujifilm 4700 or the RDC-7. However, you said you want
3+mpix which eliminates the Fujifilm 4700. It's only 2.3mpix.

If you are considering the Nikon, I suggest you check out the
Olympus 3030Z or wait until March for the 3040Z.

Good luck,

Art

JohnR said:

Can anyone give me the pros/cons of the Ricoh RDC-7 camera. I've
just begun to investigate digital cameras. I would like a small
3+mpix rated camera. I've looked at the following cameras Sony
DSC-P1, Canon S20, Fujifilm 4700 and not so small Nikon 990. I've
seen each of these in person however can not find anywhere other
than the internet the RDC-7. The writeups seem good on the RDC-7
but so do the other cameras. I've ssen comparison pictures with
these and the RDC-7 looks as good or better in the photos on the
screen. Anyway before I get too winded here I would like to know
why people but this camera over the above mentioned.

Thanks to anyone who replies.

Sure wish I could find somewhere to actually see this camera.

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Art Carpet said:

Regarding the tactical feel of the shutter buttons on the Ricoh,
there is none. A big minus. The Ricoh is slow compared to the
Fujifilm 4700. You can zoom playback but I'm not certain what you
mean by reframing. The Fujifilm allows you to reduce the resolution
of higher resolution pictures if you wish to conserve memory space,
the Ricoh does not.
I have owned the RDC-7 and the OLY 3030Z and now have a Fujifilm 4700.
They are three different animals, all good cameras.
Nothing compares to the RDC-7 when it comes to features. Terrific
for macro photography. There were some things about it that I
didn't care for: The lack of feel of the shutter release buttons,
slow focus and delay between shots. As much as I liked the concept
of the swivel LCD, I found it annoying at times. The actual feel of
the camera was awkward and it has a plastic tripod mount.
I have not experienced color problems with the 4700. In fact, it is
rated as one of the highest in that area. It is also very fast
between shots and starts up quickly. The 4700 is also a bit awkward
to handle, however I prefer it to the RDC-7. The Oly 3030Z is the
best of the 3 when it comes to handling and picture quality.
However, it's not as pocketable.
I've tried the DSC-P1 and found it bulky as you mentioned. I also
do not care for $60 batteries. I have several SmartMedia Cards so
the Sony lost out there as well. I found it to be very slow.
My biggest complaint about the Fujifilm 4700 is the flash. It's
very hard to get a good night shot unless you are close to your
victim, err. subject. The 4700 cannot be used with a remote, does
not allow for time-lapse photography and does not offer a voice
only mode.
I'm keeping the 4700 as my take everywhere camera. As soon as I
find a reasonable digital SLR, hopefully by Ricoh, I'll jump in
that arena.
I also have a Ricoh RDC-5300, another good choice but a bit out of
date.
If you are at all like me, you'll never find the perfect camera.
IMHO, I'd go with either the RDC-7 or the Fujifilm 4700. Both are
very good quality cameras.
I only suggested you mention your location just in case someone
lurking out there can help you find and RDC-7 to play with.
Glad to add to your confusion. :> )

Good luck.

Art

Visit our 'Ricoh Talk' forum at
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/ricohtalk

JohnR said:

Anyway I live around Atlanta GA. I would like a pocketable camera.
The Sony is small but a little thick. Seems to have good reviews.
I started wanting the RDC-7 then moved to the Sony DSC-P1 now back
to the
RDC-7. Somewhere in between was the Fujifilm 4700 but it seem to
over satuarate colors.(What do you think?)

Seems the more I read the more confused I get. I like the zoom
while in playback mode the Sony offers. Seems you can reframe after
you zoom. Can the RDC-7 do this? Also can the RDC-7 show
thumbnails on the LCD?

Also I recently read the RDC-7 was slow from the time you snap the
shot until the camera actually took the picture. Is this slower
than most others? One more thing I heard was the sensitivity
feadback of the button snapping the shot was not good. Any
comments on that.

Thanks again....let me know if there is anywhere around Atlanta I
can actually see the RDC-7

John

Art Carpet said:

If you give us a general idea where you live, someone may know
where you can find one to look at. You may live next door to Rose!

As far as the cameras you have mentioned, how small do you want?
If you want to put it in your pocket, you are pretty much limited
to the Fujifilm 4700 or the RDC-7. However, you said you want
3+mpix which eliminates the Fujifilm 4700. It's only 2.3mpix.

If you are considering the Nikon, I suggest you check out the
Olympus 3030Z or wait until March for the 3040Z.

Good luck,

Art

JohnR said:

Can anyone give me the pros/cons of the Ricoh RDC-7 camera. I've
just begun to investigate digital cameras. I would like a small
3+mpix rated camera. I've looked at the following cameras Sony
DSC-P1, Canon S20, Fujifilm 4700 and not so small Nikon 990. I've
seen each of these in person however can not find anywhere other
than the internet the RDC-7. The writeups seem good on the RDC-7
but so do the other cameras. I've ssen comparison pictures with
these and the RDC-7 looks as good or better in the photos on the
screen. Anyway before I get too winded here I would like to know
why people but this camera over the above mentioned.

Thanks to anyone who replies.

Sure wish I could find somewhere to actually see this camera.

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Ron S. said:

I'd agree with most all of what Art mentioned. Regarding the RDC-7
shutter release, mine has some decent tactile feedback, but the
button travel is VERY short. It takes some getting used to... you
rest your finger on the shutter release, think about taking the
photo, and you'll find you're at the half release point which
activates the auto focus, etc. The old RDC-1 had a very long
shutter release travel, and I think Ricoh overcompensated for this
with the RDC-7. I would lend my RDC-1 to someone, they would press
the shutter and complain, "nothing happens except the red and green
lights come on!". The RDC-7 shutter travel is much shorter, but
after using the camera for a few weeks, I found it wasn't an issue.
Art's right on the money about the features; the RDC-7 has enough
extras to keep you busy long after the thrill of taking still
photos has worn off. Video with sound (15 fps), still pix with
sound, just plain audio recording, text recording mode, PRO modes
with can produce a true 7 megapix image (uses a piezoelectric
actuator to physically shift the CCD one pixel while the camera
takes two rapid succession images and combines them), time-lapse
feature, IR remote control. It does lack full manual aperture and
shutter controls, but it still takes a very good picture none the
less, and you can control the white balance, EV, bracketing, and
plenty of control over flash intensity and modes, etc. Good luck
in your search!

Ron S.

Art Carpet said:

Regarding the tactical feel of the shutter buttons on the Ricoh,
there is none. A big minus. The Ricoh is slow compared to the
Fujifilm 4700. You can zoom playback but I'm not certain what you
mean by reframing. The Fujifilm allows you to reduce the resolution
of higher resolution pictures if you wish to conserve memory space,
the Ricoh does not.
I have owned the RDC-7 and the OLY 3030Z and now have a Fujifilm 4700.
They are three different animals, all good cameras.
Nothing compares to the RDC-7 when it comes to features. Terrific
for macro photography. There were some things about it that I
didn't care for: The lack of feel of the shutter release buttons,
slow focus and delay between shots. As much as I liked the concept
of the swivel LCD, I found it annoying at times. The actual feel of
the camera was awkward and it has a plastic tripod mount.
I have not experienced color problems with the 4700. In fact, it is
rated as one of the highest in that area. It is also very fast
between shots and starts up quickly. The 4700 is also a bit awkward
to handle, however I prefer it to the RDC-7. The Oly 3030Z is the
best of the 3 when it comes to handling and picture quality.
However, it's not as pocketable.
I've tried the DSC-P1 and found it bulky as you mentioned. I also
do not care for $60 batteries. I have several SmartMedia Cards so
the Sony lost out there as well. I found it to be very slow.
My biggest complaint about the Fujifilm 4700 is the flash. It's
very hard to get a good night shot unless you are close to your
victim, err. subject. The 4700 cannot be used with a remote, does
not allow for time-lapse photography and does not offer a voice
only mode.
I'm keeping the 4700 as my take everywhere camera. As soon as I
find a reasonable digital SLR, hopefully by Ricoh, I'll jump in
that arena.
I also have a Ricoh RDC-5300, another good choice but a bit out of
date.
If you are at all like me, you'll never find the perfect camera.
IMHO, I'd go with either the RDC-7 or the Fujifilm 4700. Both are
very good quality cameras.
I only suggested you mention your location just in case someone
lurking out there can help you find and RDC-7 to play with.
Glad to add to your confusion. :> )

Good luck.

Art

Visit our 'Ricoh Talk' forum at
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/ricohtalk

JohnR said:

Anyway I live around Atlanta GA. I would like a pocketable camera.
The Sony is small but a little thick. Seems to have good reviews.
I started wanting the RDC-7 then moved to the Sony DSC-P1 now back
to the
RDC-7. Somewhere in between was the Fujifilm 4700 but it seem to
over satuarate colors.(What do you think?)

Seems the more I read the more confused I get. I like the zoom
while in playback mode the Sony offers. Seems you can reframe after
you zoom. Can the RDC-7 do this? Also can the RDC-7 show
thumbnails on the LCD?

Also I recently read the RDC-7 was slow from the time you snap the
shot until the camera actually took the picture. Is this slower
than most others? One more thing I heard was the sensitivity
feadback of the button snapping the shot was not good. Any
comments on that.

Thanks again....let me know if there is anywhere around Atlanta I
can actually see the RDC-7

John

Art Carpet said:

If you give us a general idea where you live, someone may know
where you can find one to look at. You may live next door to Rose!

As far as the cameras you have mentioned, how small do you want?
If you want to put it in your pocket, you are pretty much limited
to the Fujifilm 4700 or the RDC-7. However, you said you want
3+mpix which eliminates the Fujifilm 4700. It's only 2.3mpix.

If you are considering the Nikon, I suggest you check out the
Olympus 3030Z or wait until March for the 3040Z.

Good luck,

Art

JohnR said:

Can anyone give me the pros/cons of the Ricoh RDC-7 camera. I've
just begun to investigate digital cameras. I would like a small
3+mpix rated camera. I've looked at the following cameras Sony
DSC-P1, Canon S20, Fujifilm 4700 and not so small Nikon 990. I've
seen each of these in person however can not find anywhere other
than the internet the RDC-7. The writeups seem good on the RDC-7
but so do the other cameras. I've ssen comparison pictures with
these and the RDC-7 looks as good or better in the photos on the
screen. Anyway before I get too winded here I would like to know
why people but this camera over the above mentioned.

Thanks to anyone who replies.

Sure wish I could find somewhere to actually see this camera.

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JohnR said:

Also Ron do you have any idea where in the Atlanta area I could see
this camera.

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Art Carpet said:

If you give us a general idea where you live, someone may know
where you can find one to look at. You may live next door to Rose!

As far as the cameras you have mentioned, how small do you want?
If you want to put it in your pocket, you are pretty much limited
to the Fujifilm 4700 or the RDC-7. However, you said you want
3+mpix which eliminates the Fujifilm 4700. It's only 2.3mpix.

If you are considering the Nikon, I suggest you check out the
Olympus 3030Z or wait until March for the 3040Z.

Good luck,

Art

JohnR said:

Can anyone give me the pros/cons of the Ricoh RDC-7 camera. I've
just begun to investigate digital cameras. I would like a small
3+mpix rated camera. I've looked at the following cameras Sony
DSC-P1, Canon S20, Fujifilm 4700 and not so small Nikon 990. I've
seen each of these in person however can not find anywhere other
than the internet the RDC-7. The writeups seem good on the RDC-7
but so do the other cameras. I've ssen comparison pictures with
these and the RDC-7 looks as good or better in the photos on the
screen. Anyway before I get too winded here I would like to know
why people but this camera over the above mentioned.

Thanks to anyone who replies.

Sure wish I could find somewhere to actually see this camera.

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Rose said:

Not sure what the reference to name was for.

Agree with Art's comments though I haven't seen the 3040Z yet.
Anyhow, if you plan to wait until March this is traditionally the
time Ricoh also launches it's new model(s), RDC-8?

Hi Phil

Rose.(self confessed lurker)

Art Carpet said:

If you give us a general idea where you live, someone may know
where you can find one to look at. You may live next door to Rose!

As far as the cameras you have mentioned, how small do you want?
If you want to put it in your pocket, you are pretty much limited
to the Fujifilm 4700 or the RDC-7. However, you said you want
3+mpix which eliminates the Fujifilm 4700. It's only 2.3mpix.

If you are considering the Nikon, I suggest you check out the
Olympus 3030Z or wait until March for the 3040Z.

Good luck,

Art

JohnR said:

Can anyone give me the pros/cons of the Ricoh RDC-7 camera. I've
just begun to investigate digital cameras. I would like a small
3+mpix rated camera. I've looked at the following cameras Sony
DSC-P1, Canon S20, Fujifilm 4700 and not so small Nikon 990. I've
seen each of these in person however can not find anywhere other
than the internet the RDC-7. The writeups seem good on the RDC-7
but so do the other cameras. I've ssen comparison pictures with
these and the RDC-7 looks as good or better in the photos on the
screen. Anyway before I get too winded here I would like to know
why people but this camera over the above mentioned.

Thanks to anyone who replies.

Sure wish I could find somewhere to actually see this camera.

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JohnR said:

Would both of you recomend this camera? Like I said previously I
have not physically seen the RDC-7 but am very interested in it.
Don't know if I will take the chance though. I hate buying without
seeing.

I asked Art before about re-framing ...probably the wrong wording.
I'm new to this. What I was wondering is if I took a shot and
played it back, used the zoom on playback to zoom in closer
...could I save/print the zoomed image?

Also Ron do you have any idea where in the Atlanta area I could see
this camera. Also what are your thought compared to the other
cameras in this category?

Thanks Art/Ron
John

Ron S. said:

I'd agree with most all of what Art mentioned. Regarding the RDC-7
shutter release, mine has some decent tactile feedback, but the
button travel is VERY short. It takes some getting used to... you
rest your finger on the shutter release, think about taking the
photo, and you'll find you're at the half release point which
activates the auto focus, etc. The old RDC-1 had a very long
shutter release travel, and I think Ricoh overcompensated for this
with the RDC-7. I would lend my RDC-1 to someone, they would press
the shutter and complain, "nothing happens except the red and green
lights come on!". The RDC-7 shutter travel is much shorter, but
after using the camera for a few weeks, I found it wasn't an issue.
Art's right on the money about the features; the RDC-7 has enough
extras to keep you busy long after the thrill of taking still
photos has worn off. Video with sound (15 fps), still pix with
sound, just plain audio recording, text recording mode, PRO modes
with can produce a true 7 megapix image (uses a piezoelectric
actuator to physically shift the CCD one pixel while the camera
takes two rapid succession images and combines them), time-lapse
feature, IR remote control. It does lack full manual aperture and
shutter controls, but it still takes a very good picture none the
less, and you can control the white balance, EV, bracketing, and
plenty of control over flash intensity and modes, etc. Good luck
in your search!

Ron S.

Art Carpet said:

Regarding the tactical feel of the shutter buttons on the Ricoh,
there is none. A big minus. The Ricoh is slow compared to the
Fujifilm 4700. You can zoom playback but I'm not certain what you
mean by reframing. The Fujifilm allows you to reduce the resolution
of higher resolution pictures if you wish to conserve memory space,
the Ricoh does not.
I have owned the RDC-7 and the OLY 3030Z and now have a Fujifilm 4700.
They are three different animals, all good cameras.
Nothing compares to the RDC-7 when it comes to features. Terrific
for macro photography. There were some things about it that I
didn't care for: The lack of feel of the shutter release buttons,
slow focus and delay between shots. As much as I liked the concept
of the swivel LCD, I found it annoying at times. The actual feel of
the camera was awkward and it has a plastic tripod mount.
I have not experienced color problems with the 4700. In fact, it is
rated as one of the highest in that area. It is also very fast
between shots and starts up quickly. The 4700 is also a bit awkward
to handle, however I prefer it to the RDC-7. The Oly 3030Z is the
best of the 3 when it comes to handling and picture quality.
However, it's not as pocketable.
I've tried the DSC-P1 and found it bulky as you mentioned. I also
do not care for $60 batteries. I have several SmartMedia Cards so
the Sony lost out there as well. I found it to be very slow.
My biggest complaint about the Fujifilm 4700 is the flash. It's
very hard to get a good night shot unless you are close to your
victim, err. subject. The 4700 cannot be used with a remote, does
not allow for time-lapse photography and does not offer a voice
only mode.
I'm keeping the 4700 as my take everywhere camera. As soon as I
find a reasonable digital SLR, hopefully by Ricoh, I'll jump in
that arena.
I also have a Ricoh RDC-5300, another good choice but a bit out of
date.
If you are at all like me, you'll never find the perfect camera.
IMHO, I'd go with either the RDC-7 or the Fujifilm 4700. Both are
very good quality cameras.
I only suggested you mention your location just in case someone
lurking out there can help you find and RDC-7 to play with.
Glad to add to your confusion. :> )

Good luck.

Art

Visit our 'Ricoh Talk' forum at
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/ricohtalk

JohnR said:

Anyway I live around Atlanta GA. I would like a pocketable camera.
The Sony is small but a little thick. Seems to have good reviews.
I started wanting the RDC-7 then moved to the Sony DSC-P1 now back
to the
RDC-7. Somewhere in between was the Fujifilm 4700 but it seem to
over satuarate colors.(What do you think?)

Seems the more I read the more confused I get. I like the zoom
while in playback mode the Sony offers. Seems you can reframe after
you zoom. Can the RDC-7 do this? Also can the RDC-7 show
thumbnails on the LCD?

Also I recently read the RDC-7 was slow from the time you snap the
shot until the camera actually took the picture. Is this slower
than most others? One more thing I heard was the sensitivity
feadback of the button snapping the shot was not good. Any
comments on that.

Thanks again....let me know if there is anywhere around Atlanta I
can actually see the RDC-7

John

Art Carpet said:

If you give us a general idea where you live, someone may know
where you can find one to look at. You may live next door to Rose!

As far as the cameras you have mentioned, how small do you want?
If you want to put it in your pocket, you are pretty much limited
to the Fujifilm 4700 or the RDC-7. However, you said you want
3+mpix which eliminates the Fujifilm 4700. It's only 2.3mpix.

If you are considering the Nikon, I suggest you check out the
Olympus 3030Z or wait until March for the 3040Z.

Good luck,

Art

JohnR said:

Can anyone give me the pros/cons of the Ricoh RDC-7 camera. I've
just begun to investigate digital cameras. I would like a small
3+mpix rated camera. I've looked at the following cameras Sony
DSC-P1, Canon S20, Fujifilm 4700 and not so small Nikon 990. I've
seen each of these in person however can not find anywhere other
than the internet the RDC-7. The writeups seem good on the RDC-7
but so do the other cameras. I've ssen comparison pictures with
these and the RDC-7 looks as good or better in the photos on the
screen. Anyway before I get too winded here I would like to know
why people but this camera over the above mentioned.

Thanks to anyone who replies.

Sure wish I could find somewhere to actually see this camera.

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Ron S. said:

Yes, I would definitely recommend the RDC-7 to anyone looking for a
small 3.4 Mpix camera who doesn't need or want full manual shutter
and aperture control, and does want the extra features (movies,
sound, etc.)
To the best of my knowledge, you cannot save the zoomed image.
It's primary purpose is for closer inspection of the saved image to
check for detail, etc. If I'm wrong about this, it's a feature
I've overlooked.
Comparison of this camera to others is difficult since it is so
unique. The Sony DSC-P1 looks nice, but is a liittle too thick for
my liking and uses that proprietary memory stick system, which I
don't care for. The Fuji Finepix 4700 is not really a true 3.4
Mpix camera, and although it does use 2 standard 'AA' batteries,
I've heard it is rather power hungry and goes through batteries in
a hurry (Art?). Canon S20... nice camera but only 2x zoom and
doesn't offer the extra functions of the RDC-7.

Like Henry mentioned, I don't know where you can preview one, since
Ricoh doesn't seem to have a large retail dealer base in the US.
Although it's a pain, you can always buy it and return it if it
isn't what you expected. If you haven't already done so, check out
the review at http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/RDC7/RD7A.HTM
It's a very in depth report on the RDC-7. Have fun!

Ron S.

JohnR said:

Would both of you recomend this camera? Like I said previously I
have not physically seen the RDC-7 but am very interested in it.
Don't know if I will take the chance though. I hate buying without
seeing.

I asked Art before about re-framing ...probably the wrong wording.
I'm new to this. What I was wondering is if I took a shot and
played it back, used the zoom on playback to zoom in closer
...could I save/print the zoomed image?

Also Ron do you have any idea where in the Atlanta area I could see
this camera. Also what are your thought compared to the other
cameras in this category?

Thanks Art/Ron
John

Ron S. said:

I'd agree with most all of what Art mentioned. Regarding the RDC-7
shutter release, mine has some decent tactile feedback, but the
button travel is VERY short. It takes some getting used to... you
rest your finger on the shutter release, think about taking the
photo, and you'll find you're at the half release point which
activates the auto focus, etc. The old RDC-1 had a very long
shutter release travel, and I think Ricoh overcompensated for this
with the RDC-7. I would lend my RDC-1 to someone, they would press
the shutter and complain, "nothing happens except the red and green
lights come on!". The RDC-7 shutter travel is much shorter, but
after using the camera for a few weeks, I found it wasn't an issue.
Art's right on the money about the features; the RDC-7 has enough
extras to keep you busy long after the thrill of taking still
photos has worn off. Video with sound (15 fps), still pix with
sound, just plain audio recording, text recording mode, PRO modes
with can produce a true 7 megapix image (uses a piezoelectric
actuator to physically shift the CCD one pixel while the camera
takes two rapid succession images and combines them), time-lapse
feature, IR remote control. It does lack full manual aperture and
shutter controls, but it still takes a very good picture none the
less, and you can control the white balance, EV, bracketing, and
plenty of control over flash intensity and modes, etc. Good luck
in your search!

Ron S.

Art Carpet said:

Regarding the tactical feel of the shutter buttons on the Ricoh,
there is none. A big minus. The Ricoh is slow compared to the
Fujifilm 4700. You can zoom playback but I'm not certain what you
mean by reframing. The Fujifilm allows you to reduce the resolution
of higher resolution pictures if you wish to conserve memory space,
the Ricoh does not.
I have owned the RDC-7 and the OLY 3030Z and now have a Fujifilm 4700.
They are three different animals, all good cameras.
Nothing compares to the RDC-7 when it comes to features. Terrific
for macro photography. There were some things about it that I
didn't care for: The lack of feel of the shutter release buttons,
slow focus and delay between shots. As much as I liked the concept
of the swivel LCD, I found it annoying at times. The actual feel of
the camera was awkward and it has a plastic tripod mount.
I have not experienced color problems with the 4700. In fact, it is
rated as one of the highest in that area. It is also very fast
between shots and starts up quickly. The 4700 is also a bit awkward
to handle, however I prefer it to the RDC-7. The Oly 3030Z is the
best of the 3 when it comes to handling and picture quality.
However, it's not as pocketable.
I've tried the DSC-P1 and found it bulky as you mentioned. I also
do not care for $60 batteries. I have several SmartMedia Cards so
the Sony lost out there as well. I found it to be very slow.
My biggest complaint about the Fujifilm 4700 is the flash. It's
very hard to get a good night shot unless you are close to your
victim, err. subject. The 4700 cannot be used with a remote, does
not allow for time-lapse photography and does not offer a voice
only mode.
I'm keeping the 4700 as my take everywhere camera. As soon as I
find a reasonable digital SLR, hopefully by Ricoh, I'll jump in
that arena.
I also have a Ricoh RDC-5300, another good choice but a bit out of
date.
If you are at all like me, you'll never find the perfect camera.
IMHO, I'd go with either the RDC-7 or the Fujifilm 4700. Both are
very good quality cameras.
I only suggested you mention your location just in case someone
lurking out there can help you find and RDC-7 to play with.
Glad to add to your confusion. :> )

Good luck.

Art

Visit our 'Ricoh Talk' forum at
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/ricohtalk

JohnR said:

Anyway I live around Atlanta GA. I would like a pocketable camera.
The Sony is small but a little thick. Seems to have good reviews.
I started wanting the RDC-7 then moved to the Sony DSC-P1 now back
to the
RDC-7. Somewhere in between was the Fujifilm 4700 but it seem to
over satuarate colors.(What do you think?)

Seems the more I read the more confused I get. I like the zoom
while in playback mode the Sony offers. Seems you can reframe after
you zoom. Can the RDC-7 do this? Also can the RDC-7 show
thumbnails on the LCD?

Also I recently read the RDC-7 was slow from the time you snap the
shot until the camera actually took the picture. Is this slower
than most others? One more thing I heard was the sensitivity
feadback of the button snapping the shot was not good. Any
comments on that.

Thanks again....let me know if there is anywhere around Atlanta I
can actually see the RDC-7

John

Art Carpet said:

If you give us a general idea where you live, someone may know
where you can find one to look at. You may live next door to Rose!

As far as the cameras you have mentioned, how small do you want?
If you want to put it in your pocket, you are pretty much limited
to the Fujifilm 4700 or the RDC-7. However, you said you want
3+mpix which eliminates the Fujifilm 4700. It's only 2.3mpix.

If you are considering the Nikon, I suggest you check out the
Olympus 3030Z or wait until March for the 3040Z.

Good luck,

Art

JohnR said:

Can anyone give me the pros/cons of the Ricoh RDC-7 camera. I've
just begun to investigate digital cameras. I would like a small
3+mpix rated camera. I've looked at the following cameras Sony
DSC-P1, Canon S20, Fujifilm 4700 and not so small Nikon 990. I've
seen each of these in person however can not find anywhere other
than the internet the RDC-7. The writeups seem good on the RDC-7
but so do the other cameras. I've ssen comparison pictures with
these and the RDC-7 looks as good or better in the photos on the
screen. Anyway before I get too winded here I would like to know
why people but this camera over the above mentioned.

Thanks to anyone who replies.

Sure wish I could find somewhere to actually see this camera.

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Art Carpet said:

Sounds as if you want the RDC-7. If you are leaning that way, you
might as well just fall. I'm certain that most of us that have
bought it did not see it in person beforehand. Most are very happy
with their choice.
Try to find an online dealer that will give you a full refund, if
possible. If not, you may have to swallow some restocking fees if
you're not happy.
Regarding the Fujifilm and batteries. True, they don't last long
but the battery life is proportional to other cameras that use 4
batteries. I have a dozen 1600mh rechargeables so it's not a
problem. If you don't need to use the LCD all the time, the battery
life is fine. I have found that the combination of 3x zoom and 3.7x
digital zoom on the Fujifilm is better than any of the other
cameras we have discussed.
Life is too short to wait. Hurry up and buy something!

Art

Ron S. said:

Yes, I would definitely recommend the RDC-7 to anyone looking for a
small 3.4 Mpix camera who doesn't need or want full manual shutter
and aperture control, and does want the extra features (movies,
sound, etc.)
To the best of my knowledge, you cannot save the zoomed image.
It's primary purpose is for closer inspection of the saved image to
check for detail, etc. If I'm wrong about this, it's a feature
I've overlooked.
Comparison of this camera to others is difficult since it is so
unique. The Sony DSC-P1 looks nice, but is a liittle too thick for
my liking and uses that proprietary memory stick system, which I
don't care for. The Fuji Finepix 4700 is not really a true 3.4
Mpix camera, and although it does use 2 standard 'AA' batteries,
I've heard it is rather power hungry and goes through batteries in
a hurry (Art?). Canon S20... nice camera but only 2x zoom and
doesn't offer the extra functions of the RDC-7.

Like Henry mentioned, I don't know where you can preview one, since
Ricoh doesn't seem to have a large retail dealer base in the US.
Although it's a pain, you can always buy it and return it if it
isn't what you expected. If you haven't already done so, check out
the review at http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/RDC7/RD7A.HTM
It's a very in depth report on the RDC-7. Have fun!

Ron S.

JohnR said:

Would both of you recomend this camera? Like I said previously I
have not physically seen the RDC-7 but am very interested in it.
Don't know if I will take the chance though. I hate buying without
seeing.

I asked Art before about re-framing ...probably the wrong wording.
I'm new to this. What I was wondering is if I took a shot and
played it back, used the zoom on playback to zoom in closer
...could I save/print the zoomed image?

Also Ron do you have any idea where in the Atlanta area I could see
this camera. Also what are your thought compared to the other
cameras in this category?

Thanks Art/Ron
John

Ron S. said:

I'd agree with most all of what Art mentioned. Regarding the RDC-7
shutter release, mine has some decent tactile feedback, but the
button travel is VERY short. It takes some getting used to... you
rest your finger on the shutter release, think about taking the
photo, and you'll find you're at the half release point which
activates the auto focus, etc. The old RDC-1 had a very long
shutter release travel, and I think Ricoh overcompensated for this
with the RDC-7. I would lend my RDC-1 to someone, they would press
the shutter and complain, "nothing happens except the red and green
lights come on!". The RDC-7 shutter travel is much shorter, but
after using the camera for a few weeks, I found it wasn't an issue.
Art's right on the money about the features; the RDC-7 has enough
extras to keep you busy long after the thrill of taking still
photos has worn off. Video with sound (15 fps), still pix with
sound, just plain audio recording, text recording mode, PRO modes
with can produce a true 7 megapix image (uses a piezoelectric
actuator to physically shift the CCD one pixel while the camera
takes two rapid succession images and combines them), time-lapse
feature, IR remote control. It does lack full manual aperture and
shutter controls, but it still takes a very good picture none the
less, and you can control the white balance, EV, bracketing, and
plenty of control over flash intensity and modes, etc. Good luck
in your search!

Ron S.

Art Carpet said:

Regarding the tactical feel of the shutter buttons on the Ricoh,
there is none. A big minus. The Ricoh is slow compared to the
Fujifilm 4700. You can zoom playback but I'm not certain what you
mean by reframing. The Fujifilm allows you to reduce the resolution
of higher resolution pictures if you wish to conserve memory space,
the Ricoh does not.
I have owned the RDC-7 and the OLY 3030Z and now have a Fujifilm 4700.
They are three different animals, all good cameras.
Nothing compares to the RDC-7 when it comes to features. Terrific
for macro photography. There were some things about it that I
didn't care for: The lack of feel of the shutter release buttons,
slow focus and delay between shots. As much as I liked the concept
of the swivel LCD, I found it annoying at times. The actual feel of
the camera was awkward and it has a plastic tripod mount.
I have not experienced color problems with the 4700. In fact, it is
rated as one of the highest in that area. It is also very fast
between shots and starts up quickly. The 4700 is also a bit awkward
to handle, however I prefer it to the RDC-7. The Oly 3030Z is the
best of the 3 when it comes to handling and picture quality.
However, it's not as pocketable.
I've tried the DSC-P1 and found it bulky as you mentioned. I also
do not care for $60 batteries. I have several SmartMedia Cards so
the Sony lost out there as well. I found it to be very slow.
My biggest complaint about the Fujifilm 4700 is the flash. It's
very hard to get a good night shot unless you are close to your
victim, err. subject. The 4700 cannot be used with a remote, does
not allow for time-lapse photography and does not offer a voice
only mode.
I'm keeping the 4700 as my take everywhere camera. As soon as I
find a reasonable digital SLR, hopefully by Ricoh, I'll jump in
that arena.
I also have a Ricoh RDC-5300, another good choice but a bit out of
date.
If you are at all like me, you'll never find the perfect camera.
IMHO, I'd go with either the RDC-7 or the Fujifilm 4700. Both are
very good quality cameras.
I only suggested you mention your location just in case someone
lurking out there can help you find and RDC-7 to play with.
Glad to add to your confusion. :> )

Good luck.

Art

Visit our 'Ricoh Talk' forum at
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/ricohtalk

JohnR said:

Anyway I live around Atlanta GA. I would like a pocketable camera.
The Sony is small but a little thick. Seems to have good reviews.
I started wanting the RDC-7 then moved to the Sony DSC-P1 now back
to the
RDC-7. Somewhere in between was the Fujifilm 4700 but it seem to
over satuarate colors.(What do you think?)

Seems the more I read the more confused I get. I like the zoom
while in playback mode the Sony offers. Seems you can reframe after
you zoom. Can the RDC-7 do this? Also can the RDC-7 show
thumbnails on the LCD?

Also I recently read the RDC-7 was slow from the time you snap the
shot until the camera actually took the picture. Is this slower
than most others? One more thing I heard was the sensitivity
feadback of the button snapping the shot was not good. Any
comments on that.

Thanks again....let me know if there is anywhere around Atlanta I
can actually see the RDC-7

John

Art Carpet said:

If you give us a general idea where you live, someone may know
where you can find one to look at. You may live next door to Rose!

As far as the cameras you have mentioned, how small do you want?
If you want to put it in your pocket, you are pretty much limited
to the Fujifilm 4700 or the RDC-7. However, you said you want
3+mpix which eliminates the Fujifilm 4700. It's only 2.3mpix.

If you are considering the Nikon, I suggest you check out the
Olympus 3030Z or wait until March for the 3040Z.

Good luck,

Art

JohnR said:

Can anyone give me the pros/cons of the Ricoh RDC-7 camera. I've
just begun to investigate digital cameras. I would like a small
3+mpix rated camera. I've looked at the following cameras Sony
DSC-P1, Canon S20, Fujifilm 4700 and not so small Nikon 990. I've
seen each of these in person however can not find anywhere other
than the internet the RDC-7. The writeups seem good on the RDC-7
but so do the other cameras. I've ssen comparison pictures with
these and the RDC-7 looks as good or better in the photos on the
screen. Anyway before I get too winded here I would like to know
why people but this camera over the above mentioned.

Thanks to anyone who replies.

Sure wish I could find somewhere to actually see this camera.

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Art Carpet said:

Sounds as if you want the RDC-7. If you are leaning that way, you
might as well just fall. I'm certain that most of us that have
bought it did not see it in person beforehand. Most are very happy
with their choice.
Try to find an online dealer that will give you a full refund, if
possible. If not, you may have to swallow some restocking fees if
you're not happy.
Regarding the Fujifilm and batteries. True, they don't last long
but the battery life is proportional to other cameras that use 4
batteries. I have a dozen 1600mh rechargeables so it's not a
problem. If you don't need to use the LCD all the time, the battery
life is fine. I have found that the combination of 3x zoom and 3.7x
digital zoom on the Fujifilm is better than any of the other
cameras we have discussed.
Life is too short to wait. Hurry up and buy something!

Art

Ron S. said:

Yes, I would definitely recommend the RDC-7 to anyone looking for a
small 3.4 Mpix camera who doesn't need or want full manual shutter
and aperture control, and does want the extra features (movies,
sound, etc.)
To the best of my knowledge, you cannot save the zoomed image.
It's primary purpose is for closer inspection of the saved image to
check for detail, etc. If I'm wrong about this, it's a feature
I've overlooked.
Comparison of this camera to others is difficult since it is so
unique. The Sony DSC-P1 looks nice, but is a liittle too thick for
my liking and uses that proprietary memory stick system, which I
don't care for. The Fuji Finepix 4700 is not really a true 3.4
Mpix camera, and although it does use 2 standard 'AA' batteries,
I've heard it is rather power hungry and goes through batteries in
a hurry (Art?). Canon S20... nice camera but only 2x zoom and
doesn't offer the extra functions of the RDC-7.

Like Henry mentioned, I don't know where you can preview one, since
Ricoh doesn't seem to have a large retail dealer base in the US.
Although it's a pain, you can always buy it and return it if it
isn't what you expected. If you haven't already done so, check out
the review at http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/RDC7/RD7A.HTM
It's a very in depth report on the RDC-7. Have fun!

Ron S.

JohnR said:

Would both of you recomend this camera? Like I said previously I
have not physically seen the RDC-7 but am very interested in it.
Don't know if I will take the chance though. I hate buying without
seeing.

I asked Art before about re-framing ...probably the wrong wording.
I'm new to this. What I was wondering is if I took a shot and
played it back, used the zoom on playback to zoom in closer
...could I save/print the zoomed image?

Also Ron do you have any idea where in the Atlanta area I could see
this camera. Also what are your thought compared to the other
cameras in this category?

Thanks Art/Ron
John

Ron S. said:

I'd agree with most all of what Art mentioned. Regarding the RDC-7
shutter release, mine has some decent tactile feedback, but the
button travel is VERY short. It takes some getting used to... you
rest your finger on the shutter release, think about taking the
photo, and you'll find you're at the half release point which
activates the auto focus, etc. The old RDC-1 had a very long
shutter release travel, and I think Ricoh overcompensated for this
with the RDC-7. I would lend my RDC-1 to someone, they would press
the shutter and complain, "nothing happens except the red and green
lights come on!". The RDC-7 shutter travel is much shorter, but
after using the camera for a few weeks, I found it wasn't an issue.
Art's right on the money about the features; the RDC-7 has enough
extras to keep you busy long after the thrill of taking still
photos has worn off. Video with sound (15 fps), still pix with
sound, just plain audio recording, text recording mode, PRO modes
with can produce a true 7 megapix image (uses a piezoelectric
actuator to physically shift the CCD one pixel while the camera
takes two rapid succession images and combines them), time-lapse
feature, IR remote control. It does lack full manual aperture and
shutter controls, but it still takes a very good picture none the
less, and you can control the white balance, EV, bracketing, and
plenty of control over flash intensity and modes, etc. Good luck
in your search!

Ron S.

Art Carpet said:

Regarding the tactical feel of the shutter buttons on the Ricoh,
there is none. A big minus. The Ricoh is slow compared to the
Fujifilm 4700. You can zoom playback but I'm not certain what you
mean by reframing. The Fujifilm allows you to reduce the resolution
of higher resolution pictures if you wish to conserve memory space,
the Ricoh does not.
I have owned the RDC-7 and the OLY 3030Z and now have a Fujifilm 4700.
They are three different animals, all good cameras.
Nothing compares to the RDC-7 when it comes to features. Terrific
for macro photography. There were some things about it that I
didn't care for: The lack of feel of the shutter release buttons,
slow focus and delay between shots. As much as I liked the concept
of the swivel LCD, I found it annoying at times. The actual feel of
the camera was awkward and it has a plastic tripod mount.
I have not experienced color problems with the 4700. In fact, it is
rated as one of the highest in that area. It is also very fast
between shots and starts up quickly. The 4700 is also a bit awkward
to handle, however I prefer it to the RDC-7. The Oly 3030Z is the
best of the 3 when it comes to handling and picture quality.
However, it's not as pocketable.
I've tried the DSC-P1 and found it bulky as you mentioned. I also
do not care for $60 batteries. I have several SmartMedia Cards so
the Sony lost out there as well. I found it to be very slow.
My biggest complaint about the Fujifilm 4700 is the flash. It's
very hard to get a good night shot unless you are close to your
victim, err. subject. The 4700 cannot be used with a remote, does
not allow for time-lapse photography and does not offer a voice
only mode.
I'm keeping the 4700 as my take everywhere camera. As soon as I
find a reasonable digital SLR, hopefully by Ricoh, I'll jump in
that arena.
I also have a Ricoh RDC-5300, another good choice but a bit out of
date.
If you are at all like me, you'll never find the perfect camera.
IMHO, I'd go with either the RDC-7 or the Fujifilm 4700. Both are
very good quality cameras.
I only suggested you mention your location just in case someone
lurking out there can help you find and RDC-7 to play with.
Glad to add to your confusion. :> )

Good luck.

Art

Visit our 'Ricoh Talk' forum at
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/ricohtalk

JohnR said:

Anyway I live around Atlanta GA. I would like a pocketable camera.
The Sony is small but a little thick. Seems to have good reviews.
I started wanting the RDC-7 then moved to the Sony DSC-P1 now back
to the
RDC-7. Somewhere in between was the Fujifilm 4700 but it seem to
over satuarate colors.(What do you think?)

Seems the more I read the more confused I get. I like the zoom
while in playback mode the Sony offers. Seems you can reframe after
you zoom. Can the RDC-7 do this? Also can the RDC-7 show
thumbnails on the LCD?

Also I recently read the RDC-7 was slow from the time you snap the
shot until the camera actually took the picture. Is this slower
than most others? One more thing I heard was the sensitivity
feadback of the button snapping the shot was not good. Any
comments on that.

Thanks again....let me know if there is anywhere around Atlanta I
can actually see the RDC-7

John

Art Carpet said:

If you give us a general idea where you live, someone may know
where you can find one to look at. You may live next door to Rose!

As far as the cameras you have mentioned, how small do you want?
If you want to put it in your pocket, you are pretty much limited
to the Fujifilm 4700 or the RDC-7. However, you said you want
3+mpix which eliminates the Fujifilm 4700. It's only 2.3mpix.

If you are considering the Nikon, I suggest you check out the
Olympus 3030Z or wait until March for the 3040Z.

Good luck,

Art

JohnR said:

Can anyone give me the pros/cons of the Ricoh RDC-7 camera. I've
just begun to investigate digital cameras. I would like a small
3+mpix rated camera. I've looked at the following cameras Sony
DSC-P1, Canon S20, Fujifilm 4700 and not so small Nikon 990. I've
seen each of these in person however can not find anywhere other
than the internet the RDC-7. The writeups seem good on the RDC-7
but so do the other cameras. I've ssen comparison pictures with
these and the RDC-7 looks as good or better in the photos on the
screen. Anyway before I get too winded here I would like to know
why people but this camera over the above mentioned.

Thanks to anyone who replies.

Sure wish I could find somewhere to actually see this camera.

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Art Carpet said:

I mentioned that the 4700 battery life was proportional to other
cameras that use 4 batteries. Actually it is half the life of
cameras that use 4 batteries.

Art Carpet said:

Sounds as if you want the RDC-7. If you are leaning that way, you
might as well just fall. I'm certain that most of us that have
bought it did not see it in person beforehand. Most are very happy
with their choice.
Try to find an online dealer that will give you a full refund, if
possible. If not, you may have to swallow some restocking fees if
you're not happy.
Regarding the Fujifilm and batteries. True, they don't last long
but the battery life is proportional to other cameras that use 4
batteries. I have a dozen 1600mh rechargeables so it's not a
problem. If you don't need to use the LCD all the time, the battery
life is fine. I have found that the combination of 3x zoom and 3.7x
digital zoom on the Fujifilm is better than any of the other
cameras we have discussed.
Life is too short to wait. Hurry up and buy something!

Art

Ron S. said:

Yes, I would definitely recommend the RDC-7 to anyone looking for a
small 3.4 Mpix camera who doesn't need or want full manual shutter
and aperture control, and does want the extra features (movies,
sound, etc.)
To the best of my knowledge, you cannot save the zoomed image.
It's primary purpose is for closer inspection of the saved image to
check for detail, etc. If I'm wrong about this, it's a feature
I've overlooked.
Comparison of this camera to others is difficult since it is so
unique. The Sony DSC-P1 looks nice, but is a liittle too thick for
my liking and uses that proprietary memory stick system, which I
don't care for. The Fuji Finepix 4700 is not really a true 3.4
Mpix camera, and although it does use 2 standard 'AA' batteries,
I've heard it is rather power hungry and goes through batteries in
a hurry (Art?). Canon S20... nice camera but only 2x zoom and
doesn't offer the extra functions of the RDC-7.

Like Henry mentioned, I don't know where you can preview one, since
Ricoh doesn't seem to have a large retail dealer base in the US.
Although it's a pain, you can always buy it and return it if it
isn't what you expected. If you haven't already done so, check out
the review at http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/RDC7/RD7A.HTM
It's a very in depth report on the RDC-7. Have fun!

Ron S.

JohnR said:

Would both of you recomend this camera? Like I said previously I
have not physically seen the RDC-7 but am very interested in it.
Don't know if I will take the chance though. I hate buying without
seeing.

I asked Art before about re-framing ...probably the wrong wording.
I'm new to this. What I was wondering is if I took a shot and
played it back, used the zoom on playback to zoom in closer
...could I save/print the zoomed image?

Also Ron do you have any idea where in the Atlanta area I could see
this camera. Also what are your thought compared to the other
cameras in this category?

Thanks Art/Ron
John

Ron S. said:

I'd agree with most all of what Art mentioned. Regarding the RDC-7
shutter release, mine has some decent tactile feedback, but the
button travel is VERY short. It takes some getting used to... you
rest your finger on the shutter release, think about taking the
photo, and you'll find you're at the half release point which
activates the auto focus, etc. The old RDC-1 had a very long
shutter release travel, and I think Ricoh overcompensated for this
with the RDC-7. I would lend my RDC-1 to someone, they would press
the shutter and complain, "nothing happens except the red and green
lights come on!". The RDC-7 shutter travel is much shorter, but
after using the camera for a few weeks, I found it wasn't an issue.
Art's right on the money about the features; the RDC-7 has enough
extras to keep you busy long after the thrill of taking still
photos has worn off. Video with sound (15 fps), still pix with
sound, just plain audio recording, text recording mode, PRO modes
with can produce a true 7 megapix image (uses a piezoelectric
actuator to physically shift the CCD one pixel while the camera
takes two rapid succession images and combines them), time-lapse
feature, IR remote control. It does lack full manual aperture and
shutter controls, but it still takes a very good picture none the
less, and you can control the white balance, EV, bracketing, and
plenty of control over flash intensity and modes, etc. Good luck
in your search!

Ron S.

Art Carpet said:

Regarding the tactical feel of the shutter buttons on the Ricoh,
there is none. A big minus. The Ricoh is slow compared to the
Fujifilm 4700. You can zoom playback but I'm not certain what you
mean by reframing. The Fujifilm allows you to reduce the resolution
of higher resolution pictures if you wish to conserve memory space,
the Ricoh does not.
I have owned the RDC-7 and the OLY 3030Z and now have a Fujifilm 4700.
They are three different animals, all good cameras.
Nothing compares to the RDC-7 when it comes to features. Terrific
for macro photography. There were some things about it that I
didn't care for: The lack of feel of the shutter release buttons,
slow focus and delay between shots. As much as I liked the concept
of the swivel LCD, I found it annoying at times. The actual feel of
the camera was awkward and it has a plastic tripod mount.
I have not experienced color problems with the 4700. In fact, it is
rated as one of the highest in that area. It is also very fast
between shots and starts up quickly. The 4700 is also a bit awkward
to handle, however I prefer it to the RDC-7. The Oly 3030Z is the
best of the 3 when it comes to handling and picture quality.
However, it's not as pocketable.
I've tried the DSC-P1 and found it bulky as you mentioned. I also
do not care for $60 batteries. I have several SmartMedia Cards so
the Sony lost out there as well. I found it to be very slow.
My biggest complaint about the Fujifilm 4700 is the flash. It's
very hard to get a good night shot unless you are close to your
victim, err. subject. The 4700 cannot be used with a remote, does
not allow for time-lapse photography and does not offer a voice
only mode.
I'm keeping the 4700 as my take everywhere camera. As soon as I
find a reasonable digital SLR, hopefully by Ricoh, I'll jump in
that arena.
I also have a Ricoh RDC-5300, another good choice but a bit out of
date.
If you are at all like me, you'll never find the perfect camera.
IMHO, I'd go with either the RDC-7 or the Fujifilm 4700. Both are
very good quality cameras.
I only suggested you mention your location just in case someone
lurking out there can help you find and RDC-7 to play with.
Glad to add to your confusion. :> )

Good luck.

Art

Visit our 'Ricoh Talk' forum at
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/ricohtalk

JohnR said:

Anyway I live around Atlanta GA. I would like a pocketable camera.
The Sony is small but a little thick. Seems to have good reviews.
I started wanting the RDC-7 then moved to the Sony DSC-P1 now back
to the
RDC-7. Somewhere in between was the Fujifilm 4700 but it seem to
over satuarate colors.(What do you think?)

Seems the more I read the more confused I get. I like the zoom
while in playback mode the Sony offers. Seems you can reframe after
you zoom. Can the RDC-7 do this? Also can the RDC-7 show
thumbnails on the LCD?

Also I recently read the RDC-7 was slow from the time you snap the
shot until the camera actually took the picture. Is this slower
than most others? One more thing I heard was the sensitivity
feadback of the button snapping the shot was not good. Any
comments on that.

Thanks again....let me know if there is anywhere around Atlanta I
can actually see the RDC-7

John

Art Carpet said:

If you give us a general idea where you live, someone may know
where you can find one to look at. You may live next door to Rose!

As far as the cameras you have mentioned, how small do you want?
If you want to put it in your pocket, you are pretty much limited
to the Fujifilm 4700 or the RDC-7. However, you said you want
3+mpix which eliminates the Fujifilm 4700. It's only 2.3mpix.

If you are considering the Nikon, I suggest you check out the
Olympus 3030Z or wait until March for the 3040Z.

Good luck,

Art

JohnR said:

Can anyone give me the pros/cons of the Ricoh RDC-7 camera. I've
just begun to investigate digital cameras. I would like a small
3+mpix rated camera. I've looked at the following cameras Sony
DSC-P1, Canon S20, Fujifilm 4700 and not so small Nikon 990. I've
seen each of these in person however can not find anywhere other
than the internet the RDC-7. The writeups seem good on the RDC-7
but so do the other cameras. I've ssen comparison pictures with
these and the RDC-7 looks as good or better in the photos on the
screen. Anyway before I get too winded here I would like to know
why people but this camera over the above mentioned.

Thanks to anyone who replies.

Sure wish I could find somewhere to actually see this camera.

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JohnR said:

Can you also explain why the 4700 is advertised as a 4+mpix camera
and you mentioned it was acutally below 3mpix. Is the picture
quality below or above the RDC-7. Also is the Leica the same as the
Fugifilm?? Beginning to become more confused!

Thanks
John

Art Carpet said:

I mentioned that the 4700 battery life was proportional to other
cameras that use 4 batteries. Actually it is half the life of
cameras that use 4 batteries.

Art Carpet said:

Sounds as if you want the RDC-7. If you are leaning that way, you
might as well just fall. I'm certain that most of us that have
bought it did not see it in person beforehand. Most are very happy
with their choice.
Try to find an online dealer that will give you a full refund, if
possible. If not, you may have to swallow some restocking fees if
you're not happy.
Regarding the Fujifilm and batteries. True, they don't last long
but the battery life is proportional to other cameras that use 4
batteries. I have a dozen 1600mh rechargeables so it's not a
problem. If you don't need to use the LCD all the time, the battery
life is fine. I have found that the combination of 3x zoom and 3.7x
digital zoom on the Fujifilm is better than any of the other
cameras we have discussed.
Life is too short to wait. Hurry up and buy something!

Art

Ron S. said:

Yes, I would definitely recommend the RDC-7 to anyone looking for a
small 3.4 Mpix camera who doesn't need or want full manual shutter
and aperture control, and does want the extra features (movies,
sound, etc.)
To the best of my knowledge, you cannot save the zoomed image.
It's primary purpose is for closer inspection of the saved image to
check for detail, etc. If I'm wrong about this, it's a feature
I've overlooked.
Comparison of this camera to others is difficult since it is so
unique. The Sony DSC-P1 looks nice, but is a liittle too thick for
my liking and uses that proprietary memory stick system, which I
don't care for. The Fuji Finepix 4700 is not really a true 3.4
Mpix camera, and although it does use 2 standard 'AA' batteries,
I've heard it is rather power hungry and goes through batteries in
a hurry (Art?). Canon S20... nice camera but only 2x zoom and
doesn't offer the extra functions of the RDC-7.

Like Henry mentioned, I don't know where you can preview one, since
Ricoh doesn't seem to have a large retail dealer base in the US.
Although it's a pain, you can always buy it and return it if it
isn't what you expected. If you haven't already done so, check out
the review at http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/RDC7/RD7A.HTM
It's a very in depth report on the RDC-7. Have fun!

Ron S.

JohnR said:

Would both of you recomend this camera? Like I said previously I
have not physically seen the RDC-7 but am very interested in it.
Don't know if I will take the chance though. I hate buying without
seeing.

I asked Art before about re-framing ...probably the wrong wording.
I'm new to this. What I was wondering is if I took a shot and
played it back, used the zoom on playback to zoom in closer
...could I save/print the zoomed image?

Also Ron do you have any idea where in the Atlanta area I could see
this camera. Also what are your thought compared to the other
cameras in this category?

Thanks Art/Ron
John

Ron S. said:

I'd agree with most all of what Art mentioned. Regarding the RDC-7
shutter release, mine has some decent tactile feedback, but the
button travel is VERY short. It takes some getting used to... you
rest your finger on the shutter release, think about taking the
photo, and you'll find you're at the half release point which
activates the auto focus, etc. The old RDC-1 had a very long
shutter release travel, and I think Ricoh overcompensated for this
with the RDC-7. I would lend my RDC-1 to someone, they would press
the shutter and complain, "nothing happens except the red and green
lights come on!". The RDC-7 shutter travel is much shorter, but
after using the camera for a few weeks, I found it wasn't an issue.
Art's right on the money about the features; the RDC-7 has enough
extras to keep you busy long after the thrill of taking still
photos has worn off. Video with sound (15 fps), still pix with
sound, just plain audio recording, text recording mode, PRO modes
with can produce a true 7 megapix image (uses a piezoelectric
actuator to physically shift the CCD one pixel while the camera
takes two rapid succession images and combines them), time-lapse
feature, IR remote control. It does lack full manual aperture and
shutter controls, but it still takes a very good picture none the
less, and you can control the white balance, EV, bracketing, and
plenty of control over flash intensity and modes, etc. Good luck
in your search!

Ron S.

Art Carpet said:

Regarding the tactical feel of the shutter buttons on the Ricoh,
there is none. A big minus. The Ricoh is slow compared to the
Fujifilm 4700. You can zoom playback but I'm not certain what you
mean by reframing. The Fujifilm allows you to reduce the resolution
of higher resolution pictures if you wish to conserve memory space,
the Ricoh does not.
I have owned the RDC-7 and the OLY 3030Z and now have a Fujifilm 4700.
They are three different animals, all good cameras.
Nothing compares to the RDC-7 when it comes to features. Terrific
for macro photography. There were some things about it that I
didn't care for: The lack of feel of the shutter release buttons,
slow focus and delay between shots. As much as I liked the concept
of the swivel LCD, I found it annoying at times. The actual feel of
the camera was awkward and it has a plastic tripod mount.
I have not experienced color problems with the 4700. In fact, it is
rated as one of the highest in that area. It is also very fast
between shots and starts up quickly. The 4700 is also a bit awkward
to handle, however I prefer it to the RDC-7. The Oly 3030Z is the
best of the 3 when it comes to handling and picture quality.
However, it's not as pocketable.
I've tried the DSC-P1 and found it bulky as you mentioned. I also
do not care for $60 batteries. I have several SmartMedia Cards so
the Sony lost out there as well. I found it to be very slow.
My biggest complaint about the Fujifilm 4700 is the flash. It's
very hard to get a good night shot unless you are close to your
victim, err. subject. The 4700 cannot be used with a remote, does
not allow for time-lapse photography and does not offer a voice
only mode.
I'm keeping the 4700 as my take everywhere camera. As soon as I
find a reasonable digital SLR, hopefully by Ricoh, I'll jump in
that arena.
I also have a Ricoh RDC-5300, another good choice but a bit out of
date.
If you are at all like me, you'll never find the perfect camera.
IMHO, I'd go with either the RDC-7 or the Fujifilm 4700. Both are
very good quality cameras.
I only suggested you mention your location just in case someone
lurking out there can help you find and RDC-7 to play with.
Glad to add to your confusion. :> )

Good luck.

Art

Visit our 'Ricoh Talk' forum at
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/ricohtalk

JohnR said:

Anyway I live around Atlanta GA. I would like a pocketable camera.
The Sony is small but a little thick. Seems to have good reviews.
I started wanting the RDC-7 then moved to the Sony DSC-P1 now back
to the
RDC-7. Somewhere in between was the Fujifilm 4700 but it seem to
over satuarate colors.(What do you think?)

Seems the more I read the more confused I get. I like the zoom
while in playback mode the Sony offers. Seems you can reframe after
you zoom. Can the RDC-7 do this? Also can the RDC-7 show
thumbnails on the LCD?

Also I recently read the RDC-7 was slow from the time you snap the
shot until the camera actually took the picture. Is this slower
than most others? One more thing I heard was the sensitivity
feadback of the button snapping the shot was not good. Any
comments on that.

Thanks again....let me know if there is anywhere around Atlanta I
can actually see the RDC-7

John

Art Carpet said:

If you give us a general idea where you live, someone may know
where you can find one to look at. You may live next door to Rose!

As far as the cameras you have mentioned, how small do you want?
If you want to put it in your pocket, you are pretty much limited
to the Fujifilm 4700 or the RDC-7. However, you said you want
3+mpix which eliminates the Fujifilm 4700. It's only 2.3mpix.

If you are considering the Nikon, I suggest you check out the
Olympus 3030Z or wait until March for the 3040Z.

Good luck,

Art

JohnR said:

Can anyone give me the pros/cons of the Ricoh RDC-7 camera. I've
just begun to investigate digital cameras. I would like a small
3+mpix rated camera. I've looked at the following cameras Sony
DSC-P1, Canon S20, Fujifilm 4700 and not so small Nikon 990. I've
seen each of these in person however can not find anywhere other
than the internet the RDC-7. The writeups seem good on the RDC-7
but so do the other cameras. I've ssen comparison pictures with
these and the RDC-7 looks as good or better in the photos on the
screen. Anyway before I get too winded here I would like to know
why people but this camera over the above mentioned.

Thanks to anyone who replies.

Sure wish I could find somewhere to actually see this camera.

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JohnR said:

Although I am very interested in the RDC-7 I am also interested in
the 4700 also. Since you have had them both you seem like the
right person to ask for the comparisons.

I do like the feel of the 4700 and Best Buy has a sale for $639.00.
Ends today! Is that a good price compared to what I could get it
over the internet?

Also is the macro that much better on the RDC-7 compared to the 4700.
Can the 4700 zoom on playback ond re-size (save/print) Seem like
that would be a good feature. Let me know what your thoughts are
between the two. (Also still trying to have the wife buy into the
expense. Almost there on that!!!)

Thanks
John

Art Carpet said:

Sounds as if you want the RDC-7. If you are leaning that way, you
might as well just fall. I'm certain that most of us that have
bought it did not see it in person beforehand. Most are very happy
with their choice.
Try to find an online dealer that will give you a full refund, if
possible. If not, you may have to swallow some restocking fees if
you're not happy.
Regarding the Fujifilm and batteries. True, they don't last long
but the battery life is proportional to other cameras that use 4
batteries. I have a dozen 1600mh rechargeables so it's not a
problem. If you don't need to use the LCD all the time, the battery
life is fine. I have found that the combination of 3x zoom and 3.7x
digital zoom on the Fujifilm is better than any of the other
cameras we have discussed.
Life is too short to wait. Hurry up and buy something!

Art

Ron S. said:

Yes, I would definitely recommend the RDC-7 to anyone looking for a
small 3.4 Mpix camera who doesn't need or want full manual shutter
and aperture control, and does want the extra features (movies,
sound, etc.)
To the best of my knowledge, you cannot save the zoomed image.
It's primary purpose is for closer inspection of the saved image to
check for detail, etc. If I'm wrong about this, it's a feature
I've overlooked.
Comparison of this camera to others is difficult since it is so
unique. The Sony DSC-P1 looks nice, but is a liittle too thick for
my liking and uses that proprietary memory stick system, which I
don't care for. The Fuji Finepix 4700 is not really a true 3.4
Mpix camera, and although it does use 2 standard 'AA' batteries,
I've heard it is rather power hungry and goes through batteries in
a hurry (Art?). Canon S20... nice camera but only 2x zoom and
doesn't offer the extra functions of the RDC-7.

Like Henry mentioned, I don't know where you can preview one, since
Ricoh doesn't seem to have a large retail dealer base in the US.
Although it's a pain, you can always buy it and return it if it
isn't what you expected. If you haven't already done so, check out
the review at http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/RDC7/RD7A.HTM
It's a very in depth report on the RDC-7. Have fun!

Ron S.

JohnR said:

Would both of you recomend this camera? Like I said previously I
have not physically seen the RDC-7 but am very interested in it.
Don't know if I will take the chance though. I hate buying without
seeing.

I asked Art before about re-framing ...probably the wrong wording.
I'm new to this. What I was wondering is if I took a shot and
played it back, used the zoom on playback to zoom in closer
...could I save/print the zoomed image?

Also Ron do you have any idea where in the Atlanta area I could see
this camera. Also what are your thought compared to the other
cameras in this category?

Thanks Art/Ron
John

Ron S. said:

I'd agree with most all of what Art mentioned. Regarding the RDC-7
shutter release, mine has some decent tactile feedback, but the
button travel is VERY short. It takes some getting used to... you
rest your finger on the shutter release, think about taking the
photo, and you'll find you're at the half release point which
activates the auto focus, etc. The old RDC-1 had a very long
shutter release travel, and I think Ricoh overcompensated for this
with the RDC-7. I would lend my RDC-1 to someone, they would press
the shutter and complain, "nothing happens except the red and green
lights come on!". The RDC-7 shutter travel is much shorter, but
after using the camera for a few weeks, I found it wasn't an issue.
Art's right on the money about the features; the RDC-7 has enough
extras to keep you busy long after the thrill of taking still
photos has worn off. Video with sound (15 fps), still pix with
sound, just plain audio recording, text recording mode, PRO modes
with can produce a true 7 megapix image (uses a piezoelectric
actuator to physically shift the CCD one pixel while the camera
takes two rapid succession images and combines them), time-lapse
feature, IR remote control. It does lack full manual aperture and
shutter controls, but it still takes a very good picture none the
less, and you can control the white balance, EV, bracketing, and
plenty of control over flash intensity and modes, etc. Good luck
in your search!

Ron S.

Art Carpet said:

Regarding the tactical feel of the shutter buttons on the Ricoh,
there is none. A big minus. The Ricoh is slow compared to the
Fujifilm 4700. You can zoom playback but I'm not certain what you
mean by reframing. The Fujifilm allows you to reduce the resolution
of higher resolution pictures if you wish to conserve memory space,
the Ricoh does not.
I have owned the RDC-7 and the OLY 3030Z and now have a Fujifilm 4700.
They are three different animals, all good cameras.
Nothing compares to the RDC-7 when it comes to features. Terrific
for macro photography. There were some things about it that I
didn't care for: The lack of feel of the shutter release buttons,
slow focus and delay between shots. As much as I liked the concept
of the swivel LCD, I found it annoying at times. The actual feel of
the camera was awkward and it has a plastic tripod mount.
I have not experienced color problems with the 4700. In fact, it is
rated as one of the highest in that area. It is also very fast
between shots and starts up quickly. The 4700 is also a bit awkward
to handle, however I prefer it to the RDC-7. The Oly 3030Z is the
best of the 3 when it comes to handling and picture quality.
However, it's not as pocketable.
I've tried the DSC-P1 and found it bulky as you mentioned. I also
do not care for $60 batteries. I have several SmartMedia Cards so
the Sony lost out there as well. I found it to be very slow.
My biggest complaint about the Fujifilm 4700 is the flash. It's
very hard to get a good night shot unless you are close to your
victim, err. subject. The 4700 cannot be used with a remote, does
not allow for time-lapse photography and does not offer a voice
only mode.
I'm keeping the 4700 as my take everywhere camera. As soon as I
find a reasonable digital SLR, hopefully by Ricoh, I'll jump in
that arena.
I also have a Ricoh RDC-5300, another good choice but a bit out of
date.
If you are at all like me, you'll never find the perfect camera.
IMHO, I'd go with either the RDC-7 or the Fujifilm 4700. Both are
very good quality cameras.
I only suggested you mention your location just in case someone
lurking out there can help you find and RDC-7 to play with.
Glad to add to your confusion. :> )

Good luck.

Art

Visit our 'Ricoh Talk' forum at
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/ricohtalk

JohnR said:

Anyway I live around Atlanta GA. I would like a pocketable camera.
The Sony is small but a little thick. Seems to have good reviews.
I started wanting the RDC-7 then moved to the Sony DSC-P1 now back
to the
RDC-7. Somewhere in between was the Fujifilm 4700 but it seem to
over satuarate colors.(What do you think?)

Seems the more I read the more confused I get. I like the zoom
while in playback mode the Sony offers. Seems you can reframe after
you zoom. Can the RDC-7 do this? Also can the RDC-7 show
thumbnails on the LCD?

Also I recently read the RDC-7 was slow from the time you snap the
shot until the camera actually took the picture. Is this slower
than most others? One more thing I heard was the sensitivity
feadback of the button snapping the shot was not good. Any
comments on that.

Thanks again....let me know if there is anywhere around Atlanta I
can actually see the RDC-7

John

Art Carpet said:

If you give us a general idea where you live, someone may know
where you can find one to look at. You may live next door to Rose!

As far as the cameras you have mentioned, how small do you want?
If you want to put it in your pocket, you are pretty much limited
to the Fujifilm 4700 or the RDC-7. However, you said you want
3+mpix which eliminates the Fujifilm 4700. It's only 2.3mpix.

If you are considering the Nikon, I suggest you check out the
Olympus 3030Z or wait until March for the 3040Z.

Good luck,

Art

JohnR said:

Can anyone give me the pros/cons of the Ricoh RDC-7 camera. I've
just begun to investigate digital cameras. I would like a small
3+mpix rated camera. I've looked at the following cameras Sony
DSC-P1, Canon S20, Fujifilm 4700 and not so small Nikon 990. I've
seen each of these in person however can not find anywhere other
than the internet the RDC-7. The writeups seem good on the RDC-7
but so do the other cameras. I've ssen comparison pictures with
these and the RDC-7 looks as good or better in the photos on the
screen. Anyway before I get too winded here I would like to know
why people but this camera over the above mentioned.

Thanks to anyone who replies.

Sure wish I could find somewhere to actually see this camera.

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