In context, see the link in my previous post. A couple cameras are listed.
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RAW or raw?
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Send a memo to Adobe and explain to them they don't know what they are talking about :
RAW files.
RAW files contain uncompressed and unprocessed image data, allowing photographers to capture practically every detail they see in their viewfinder. The RAW file format stores the largest amount of detail out of any raster file type, which photographers can then edit, compress and convert into other formats. Learn more about the benefits, drawbacks and best ways to work with a RAW image.
(BTW, note :RAW...)
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RAW is not the file extension used by, most, camera manufacturers for their ‘unprocessed’” sensor output. Nikon’s unprocessed files use the extension .NEF, if RAW were a file extension then a Canon file would, in theory, be compatible with any software that could open such a file. Nikon’s software won’t open Canon’s files.
Might I suggest that non-English speakers don’t have this problem because they don’t see RAW as anything other than a generic term for an unprocessed image file. We English speakers have the word raw, wich we assume means the same as RAW, and it is this that causes confusion.
In the world of digital camera manufacturers a term is required that clearly indicates, universally, an unprocessed image file. They have chosen RAW for this purpose. Adobe has understood the distinction between a generic term an individual manufacturer’s file extensions for such files. Some of us, it would appear, have not.
Chris Noble
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"When referring to unprocessed image files, "RAW" is the most common and widely accepted format. It's capitalized because it denotes a specific category of image file formats that are unprocessed or minimally processed, retaining the most data from the camera’s sensor.
Using "raw" or "Raw" can be confusing as they might not clearly indicate that you are referring to the technical file format, rather than the general concept of something being unprocessed. So, sticking with "RAW" helps avoid ambiguity."
Now all of you stop wasting your time chatting, and get out there to take a few photos -- preferrably RAW.
Using "raw" or "Raw" can be confusing as they might not clearly indicate that you are referring to the technical file format, rather than the general concept of something being unprocessed. So, sticking with "RAW" helps avoid ambiguity."
Now all of you stop wasting your time chatting, and get out there to take a few photos -- preferrably RAW.
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Try to confuse it, and it will tell you more.
My input: Why do you capitalize RAW in photography? This is wrong!
I think I will go outside now and take some photos, preferably in the raw image format
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Mark B.
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Yes, there have in fact been dozens of threads over the years about this. As far as I'm concerned, given that it's not an acronym for anything it's simply 'raw'.
I feel I am bashing my head against a brick wall! The word raw is English, in French it is Brut, in Italian Crudo, in German roh etc. The term RAW is universal and simplifies matters considerably.
Johan Borg
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Well, until you reach Scandinavia where we happily say råformat ;-)
But yes, RAW is often used as-is even in languages otherwise using different scripts or alphabets from English.
Guy Parsons
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Guy Parsons
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Make sure that you wear some clothing as we really don't want a raw photographer out there.Try to confuse it, and it will tell you more.
My input: Why do you capitalize RAW in photography? This is wrong!
I think I will go outside now and take some photos, preferably in the raw image format
as I pointed out in English there are at least seven separae meanings of the word raw, I posted the full list from the Oxford dictionary but it was deleted
It is a common problem, when going from one language to another, that many forget you can directly translate one of those meanings but the others don't often , if at all, correspond.
as an example raw taken as "uncooked" is indeed crudo in Italian as also the word can be used to mean rogh (as in language) but a nervo crudo does not mean a raw nerve as also crudo does not mean painfull and so on.
Chris Noble
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Notice how CoPilot ends with a question to keep you engaged. It's all about "monetizing eyeballs".
I noticed that too - the answer frequently ends up with additional question, like the survey.
Guy Parsons
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I guess it also helps build AI knowledge and "accuracy".
Anyway, it's simply another case of we the users being the commodity that the big Internet firms are selling.
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Mark B.
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I suggest caffeine-free tea if this topic creates you quite that much distress. It's seriously not that important. I don't speak French or Italian, and though I can understand some German it's still not something I'm going to converse with someone about in any language but English.
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Bobapingu
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Provided It's not overt, pedantry denies fuel to trolls. There's nothing overt about raw.
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SelrahCharleS
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No but I can see the logic of using it as a placeholder for "unspecified manufacturer raw file", rather then listing the possible ones from various manufacturers. Using all caps, while meaningless in this case, does draw attention to it in text.
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newmikey
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I know what a PEF file is when I see one...
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But is it really meaningless, if it means "unspecified manufacturer raw file"? I doubt it.
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You are talking to crazy. With too many cameras.
I think this thread is a very good example of how we don't all think the same way.
To some the difference between writing RAW orthe DPreview sanctioned Raw and raw is obvious, to others it isn't and of course many don't care.
Somewhat like humour, a joke that is very funny to one it isn't to another and the one that finds it funny is never going to be able to explain why it is.
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