Has anyone used the Samyang 24mm f1.8 with Capture One?

I am debating whether to get the Sony 24mm f2.8 G or the Samyang 24mm f1.8. Both suffer from quite severe distortion issues if not corrected. Support for Sony lenses in Capture One is excellent of course, they all have dedicated lens profiles. With the Samyang I would have to rely on the "manufacturers profile" for distortion correction.

Is this "manufacturers profile" embedded in the RAW data? Does anyone know for sure if it corrects adequately for distortion? (I've only once used a Samyang lens before and remember about the "manufacturers profile", but I don't remember if distortion correction was part of it.)

Apart from distortion correction, did anyone run into any problems with this lens and Capture One?

Easy Lee said:

I am debating whether to get the Sony 24mm f2.8 G or the Samyang 24mm f1.8. Both suffer from quite severe distortion issues if not corrected. Support for Sony lenses in Capture One is excellent of course, they all have dedicated lens profiles. With the Samyang I would have to rely on the "manufacturers profile" for distortion correction.

Is this "manufacturers profile" embedded in the RAW data? Does anyone know for sure if it corrects adequately for distortion? (I've only once used a Samyang lens before and remember about the "manufacturers profile", but I don't remember if distortion correction was part of it.)

Apart from distortion correction, did anyone run into any problems with this lens and Capture One?

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The Samyang 24mm F1.8 has very little distortion unlike the 24G.

I prefer the embedded profiles over Phase One ones.

E-mount with electronic contacts generally have distortion, shading, and lateral CA corrections which get embedded in ARW files by Sony cameras, and Capture One will use those as "manufacturer profile".

Capture One does misidentify lenses, but this isn't one of those so far.

I don’t have the lens, but DXO Pure Raw has good lens profiles for most of the Samyangs. They also have great NR software. You process with Pure Raw and output a DNG to bring into C1.

Easy Lee said:

I am debating whether to get the Sony 24mm f2.8 G or the Samyang 24mm f1.8. Both suffer from quite severe distortion issues if not corrected.

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The 24/2.8 has more complex distortion than the 24/1.8. The 24/1.8 is more easily manually corrected but both should have good profiles available in most software. I don’t use capture one so I can’t address that directly.

DXO photolab does a good job with the lens in my experience. Not sure if that helps at all.

UncleVanya said:

Easy Lee said:

I am debating whether to get the Sony 24mm f2.8 G or the Samyang 24mm f1.8. Both suffer from quite severe distortion issues if not corrected.

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The 24/2.8 has more complex distortion than the 24/1.8. The 24/1.8 is more easily manually corrected but both should have good profiles available in most software. I don’t use capture one so I can’t address that directly.

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Capture One can use the manufacturer's supplied profile (in addition to the ones C1 develop) which is always embedded alongside the RAW (for modern AF lenses), so it literally never needs to wait on profile availability. It's one of the key advantages to it, even an older version will support every single lens right out of the box.

AFAIK Adobe is the only other development software that can actually read those embedded correction profiles, but they still tie lens support to full software updates for whatever reason and IIRC on E mount they only use the lens manufacturer's CA and vignetting corrections (opting to develop their own geometric corrections).

UncleVanya said:

DXO photolab does a good job with the lens in my experience. Not sure if that helps at all.

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DxO is great and AFAIK they're the only other development program that creates their own correction profiles. I believe almost everyone else is using an open source correction profile library (Lensfun), which can lag even more in adding support for any given lens since it relies on user contributions. I dunno why this isn't discussed more tbh...

Thank you all for your replies. It seems I shouldn't have any issues with correcting distortion in C1 for the Samyang lens. I usually lean towards Sony lenses but this time I guess I'll go for the third party lens. The Sony 24mm looks nice and I could get it used quite cheap but judging by the reviews the Samyang 1.8 seems to be the better lens optically.

Easy Lee said:

Thank you all for your replies. It seems I shouldn't have any issues with correcting distortion in C1 for the Samyang lens. I usually lean towards Sony lenses but this time I guess I'll go for the third party lens. The Sony 24mm looks nice and I could get it used quite cheap but judging by the reviews the Samyang 1.8 seems to be the better lens optically.

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I've got and like the Sony 24/2.8 G, but for the money I think the only reason to favor it over the Samyang is the size, maybe the aperture wheel if you're really fussy about that tho the SY's focus wheel can be used for that (I do so on my Samyang 75/1.8 since 4 out of my other 5 main primes also have aperture wheels). The SY is indeed the better lens optically and the better value.

I bought it for the size, already had the 20/1.8 G and wanted as small an AF wide as possible (within reason, which ruled out the much weaker Samyang 24/2.8).