Upgrade for GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Graphics Card

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I don't want to break the bank but just installed Photo AI and seems to lock up my Elements program when I work in that program. I have read that Photo AI needs a minimum of 6 gb card and I think the GTX 1050 ti may only be 4. This will go in a Dell XPS machine. My computer is about 7 years old and I have thought about replacing it but not having any issues with it. Is there a card that you might suggest that wouldn't be too expensive?
 
I was just about ready to pull the trigger on a Nvidia 1080 ti when I came across this in the Dell community site:

"Case swap? If you have a i7 8700 or above, don't even consider using a GTX 1080 / RTX 2080 or higher in your machine unless you have a liquid cooled CPU. You will have fan noise, case temp and CPU temp issues at high loads unless you find a way to liquid cool the CPU. Adding heat to the case from a GPU with a open air dual axial fan design will just add to the mess using the stock or SE turbo design CPU cooler. You will likely encounter the same issues with less powerful GPU's as well under gaming loads.

With the thermal limits of the rear blower type GPU design being tested by faster and faster chips like the RTX 2080Ti, the airflow in the case becomes even more important. With liquid cooling the CPU in this case already being challenging, at that point you should consider a swap to a case which won't restrict the type of GPU you have to buy and have better cooling options."

That is the CPU that I have in mine.
 
I was just about ready to pull the trigger on a Nvidia 1080 ti when I came across this in the Dell community site:

"Case swap? If you have a i7 8700 or above, don't even consider using a GTX 1080 / RTX 2080 or higher in your machine unless you have a liquid cooled CPU. You will have fan noise, case temp and CPU temp issues at high loads unless you find a way to liquid cool the CPU. Adding heat to the case from a GPU with a open air dual axial fan design will just add to the mess using the stock or SE turbo design CPU cooler. You will likely encounter the same issues with less powerful GPU's as well under gaming loads.

With the thermal limits of the rear blower type GPU design being tested by faster and faster chips like the RTX 2080Ti, the airflow in the case becomes even more important. With liquid cooling the CPU in this case already being challenging, at that point you should consider a swap to a case which won't restrict the type of GPU you have to buy and have better cooling options."

That is the CPU that I have in mine.
Seems overstated. Maybe by someone who doesn't own a Dell. (I also don't own a Dell. Haven't bought one since 1995. Generally thought they were OK, except for the use of things that were not industry standard.)

A GTX 1080 (not a 1080ti) was a factory option for the 8930. It may have been a "blower" type card (which ejects most of its heat out the back of the case). Blower cards use a centrifugal (squirrel cage) fan, rather than the more common axial fan types.

Looking online, I found someone with an RTX 2060 installed. That's nominally a 160W GPU, and probably not a "blower" card.

If you're worried, spend $300 and get a new RTX 4060. It's rated at 115W. That shouldn't tax the cooling system, even though it won't be a blower card.

If you're really worried, buy a complete new system, so you won't need to agonize over compatibility.
 
I was just about ready to pull the trigger on a Nvidia 1080 ti when I came across this in the Dell community site:

"Case swap? If you have a i7 8700 or above, don't even consider using a GTX 1080 / RTX 2080 or higher in your machine unless you have a liquid cooled CPU. You will have fan noise, case temp and CPU temp issues at high loads unless you find a way to liquid cool the CPU. Adding heat to the case from a GPU with a open air dual axial fan design will just add to the mess using the stock or SE turbo design CPU cooler. You will likely encounter the same issues with less powerful GPU's as well under gaming loads.

With the thermal limits of the rear blower type GPU design being tested by faster and faster chips like the RTX 2080Ti, the airflow in the case becomes even more important. With liquid cooling the CPU in this case already being challenging, at that point you should consider a swap to a case which won't restrict the type of GPU you have to buy and have better cooling options."

That is the CPU that I have in mine.
Will that be an issue in your situation?

My guess is that they're talking about gaming where the GPU will be under high if not full load for potentially hours at a time at the same time the CPU will be stressed by the game as well.

Dell cases don't have the best ventilation but if you're just using the GPU and CPU separately and not for extended periods at continuous high loads you have a much better shot of getting away with it.
 
I was just about ready to pull the trigger on a Nvidia 1080 ti when I came across this in the Dell community site:

"Case swap? If you have a i7 8700 or above, don't even consider using a GTX 1080 / RTX 2080 or higher in your machine unless you have a liquid cooled CPU. You will have fan noise, case temp and CPU temp issues at high loads unless you find a way to liquid cool the CPU. Adding heat to the case from a GPU with a open air dual axial fan design will just add to the mess using the stock or SE turbo design CPU cooler. You will likely encounter the same issues with less powerful GPU's as well under gaming loads.

With the thermal limits of the rear blower type GPU design being tested by faster and faster chips like the RTX 2080Ti, the airflow in the case becomes even more important. With liquid cooling the CPU in this case already being challenging, at that point you should consider a swap to a case which won't restrict the type of GPU you have to buy and have better cooling options."

That is the CPU that I have in mine.
I have the 8940 with the 2070 super. IT's a "blower" card, and it's the loudest fan in my system. That being said, it's not loud at all, and adding a GPU to your system has no effect on your CPU fan noise. Whoever said that is completely mis informed.

Now, if your cpu has the small crappy cooler they spec'ed for some systems then yes, that will make noise, but if you were already using the system, you would have heard it by now.

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adding a GPU to your system has no effect on your CPU fan noise. Whoever said that is completely mis informed.
An exception to that is if the case is inadequately ventilated and the GPU is the type where the fans exhaust heat directly into the case. Then the higher temps inside the case can cause the CPU fan to speed up in an attempt to keep the CPU cool.

(Although in some situations the GPU fans will be loud enough to drown out the CPU fan sound even if that's louder than previously)
 
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adding a GPU to your system has no effect on your CPU fan noise. Whoever said that is completely mis informed.
An exception to that is if the case is inadequately ventilated and the GPU is the type where the fans exhaust heat directly into the case. Then the higher temps inside the case can cause the CPU fan to speed up in an attempt to keep the CPU cool.

(Although in some situations the GPU fans will be loud enough to drown out the CPU fan sound even if that's louder than previously)
If his CPU fan is the same as my stocker was, you would need a A320 airbus engine to drown it out, and we all know how crappy and loud those engines are.

My GPU fan only kicks in now when exporting video projects longer than 10-15 min. It spools up but not loud by any means, just enough to know it is working hard. My CPU fan and case fans are silent even on bust.
 
I was just about ready to pull the trigger on a Nvidia 1080 ti when I came across this in the Dell community site:

"Case swap? If you have a i7 8700 or above, don't even consider using a GTX 1080 / RTX 2080 or higher in your machine unless you have a liquid cooled CPU. You will have fan noise, case temp and CPU temp issues at high loads unless you find a way to liquid cool the CPU. Adding heat to the case from a GPU with a open air dual axial fan design will just add to the mess using the stock or SE turbo design CPU cooler. You will likely encounter the same issues with less powerful GPU's as well under gaming loads.

With the thermal limits of the rear blower type GPU design being tested by faster and faster chips like the RTX 2080Ti, the airflow in the case becomes even more important. With liquid cooling the CPU in this case already being challenging, at that point you should consider a swap to a case which won't restrict the type of GPU you have to buy and have better cooling options."

That is the CPU that I have in mine.
I have the 8940 with the 2070 super. IT's a "blower" card, and it's the loudest fan in my system. That being said, it's not loud at all, and adding a GPU to your system has no effect on your CPU fan noise. Whoever said that is completely mis informed.

Now, if your cpu has the small crappy cooler they spec'ed for some systems then yes, that will make noise, but if you were already using the system, you would have heard it by now.
Oh, I hear fan noise whenever it seems to be thinking.
 
I was just about ready to pull the trigger on a Nvidia 1080 ti when I came across this in the Dell community site:

"Case swap? If you have a i7 8700 or above, don't even consider using a GTX 1080 / RTX 2080 or higher in your machine unless you have a liquid cooled CPU. You will have fan noise, case temp and CPU temp issues at high loads unless you find a way to liquid cool the CPU. Adding heat to the case from a GPU with a open air dual axial fan design will just add to the mess using the stock or SE turbo design CPU cooler. You will likely encounter the same issues with less powerful GPU's as well under gaming loads.

With the thermal limits of the rear blower type GPU design being tested by faster and faster chips like the RTX 2080Ti, the airflow in the case becomes even more important. With liquid cooling the CPU in this case already being challenging, at that point you should consider a swap to a case which won't restrict the type of GPU you have to buy and have better cooling options."

That is the CPU that I have in mine.
Seems overstated. Maybe by someone who doesn't own a Dell. (I also don't own a Dell. Haven't bought one since 1995. Generally thought they were OK, except for the use of things that were not industry standard.)

A GTX 1080 (not a 1080ti) was a factory option for the 8930. It may have been a "blower" type card (which ejects most of its heat out the back of the case). Blower cards use a centrifugal (squirrel cage) fan, rather than the more common axial fan types.

Looking online, I found someone with an RTX 2060 installed. That's nominally a 160W GPU, and probably not a "blower" card.

If you're worried, spend $300 and get a new RTX 4060. It's rated at 115W. That shouldn't tax the cooling system, even though it won't be a blower card.

If you're really worried, buy a complete new system, so you won't need to agonize over compatibility.
I have to correct a mis-statement: blower type RTX 2060s were made by PNY. They also made 2080s. I'm not sure what their highest end desktop card with a blower was.

Their current desktop cards (RTX Ada series) all use axial fans. However, their workstation cards are all blowers. (Workstation cards are expensive, as they're aimed at professional users, not gamers.)
 
Right or wrong, just bought a new Ibuypower computer from costco. I didn't think I could buy the parts for what they were selling it for. It has the RTX 4060 card, so I should be good, once I get all the programs and data transferred over. That is a pain!!
 
Right or wrong, just bought a new Ibuypower computer from costco. I didn't think I could buy the parts for what they were selling it for. It has the RTX 4060 card, so I should be good, once I get all the programs and data transferred over. That is a pain!!
I think that you made a reasonable choice.

Is this the model? (TMI7N4601)

The listing of its specs is a bit thin, but if an eBay listing is to be believed, it features DDR5 5600 RAM. Pretty nice.

My main complaint with it is I can't find a downloadable manual for it online. Makes snooping difficult. ;-)
 
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Right or wrong, just bought a new Ibuypower computer from costco. I didn't think I could buy the parts for what they were selling it for. It has the RTX 4060 card, so I should be good, once I get all the programs and data transferred over. That is a pain!!
Congrats!!! And it must just be a good time to upgrade. I just built a new system today.
 
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Right or wrong, just bought a new Ibuypower computer from costco. I didn't think I could buy the parts for what they were selling it for. It has the RTX 4060 card, so I should be good, once I get all the programs and data transferred over. That is a pain!!
I think that you made a reasonable choice.

Is this the model? (TMI7N4601)

The listing of its specs is a bit thin, but if an eBay listing is to be believed, it features DDR5 5600 RAM. Pretty nice.

My main complaint with it is I can't find a downloadable manual for it online. Makes snooping difficult. ;-)
That's it! Now, I have been racking my brain as to the easiest way to move all my stuff over to it! Challenges with physical space as well. Wondering, is there a way to hook up one monitor for both machines while I try to migrate stuff or would you suggest something different?
 
Right or wrong, just bought a new Ibuypower computer from costco. I didn't think I could buy the parts for what they were selling it for. It has the RTX 4060 card, so I should be good, once I get all the programs and data transferred over. That is a pain!!
Congrats!!! And it must just be a good time to upgrade. I just built a new system today.
Congrats to you as well! I am not sure I made the right decision yet. I am not much of a geek and trying to figure out the best way to move stuff over to the new machine.
 
Right or wrong, just bought a new Ibuypower computer from costco. I didn't think I could buy the parts for what they were selling it for. It has the RTX 4060 card, so I should be good, once I get all the programs and data transferred over. That is a pain!!
Congratulations! It is a very good choice. If I had not already bought a slightly weaker PC from Costco, I would have done the same. I have since upgraded the CPU & fans, the final cost is still hundreds less than comparable ones from other sources.

You may want to find and download the manual for the MB. It will help you when you want to upgrade. If I am not mistaken, the CPU is i7 14700, you may also want to download the BIOS patch (from MB manufacturer) released by Intel recently to prevent the potential overheating problem.
 
Right or wrong, just bought a new Ibuypower computer from costco. I didn't think I could buy the parts for what they were selling it for. It has the RTX 4060 card, so I should be good, once I get all the programs and data transferred over. That is a pain!!
Congratulations! It is a very good choice. If I had not already bought a slightly weaker PC from Costco, I would have done the same. I have since upgraded the CPU & fans, the final cost is still hundreds less than comparable ones from other sources.

You may want to find and download the manual for the MB. It will help you when you want to upgrade. If I am not mistaken, the CPU is i7 14700, you may also want to download the BIOS patch (from MB manufacturer) released by Intel recently to prevent the potential overheating problem.
Yes, that is the CPU. thanks for the tip on the BIOS patch. I don't even know the MB manufacturer. Still in the box.
 
Yes, try to keep up BIOS updates or other fixes issued by intel or pc or motherboard manufacturer to avoid potential CPU issues from none to minor to serious. Let us know how it goes

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Right or wrong, just bought a new Ibuypower computer from costco. I didn't think I could buy the parts for what they were selling it for. It has the RTX 4060 card, so I should be good, once I get all the programs and data transferred over. That is a pain!!
Congratulations! It is a very good choice. If I had not already bought a slightly weaker PC from Costco, I would have done the same. I have since upgraded the CPU & fans, the final cost is still hundreds less than comparable ones from other sources.

You may want to find and download the manual for the MB. It will help you when you want to upgrade. If I am not mistaken, the CPU is i7 14700, you may also want to download the BIOS patch (from MB manufacturer) released by Intel recently to prevent the potential overheating problem.
Yes, that is the CPU. thanks for the tip on the BIOS patch. I don't even know the MB manufacturer. Still in the box.
If ibuypower doesn't provide BIOS updates, the free tool HWiNFO64 should tell you who the actual motherboard maker is, plus a lot of other possibly useful info about your system.
 
Right or wrong, just bought a new Ibuypower computer from costco. I didn't think I could buy the parts for what they were selling it for. It has the RTX 4060 card, so I should be good, once I get all the programs and data transferred over. That is a pain!!
I think that you made a reasonable choice.

Is this the model? (TMI7N4601)

The listing of its specs is a bit thin, but if an eBay listing is to be believed, it features DDR5 5600 RAM. Pretty nice.

My main complaint with it is I can't find a downloadable manual for it online. Makes snooping difficult. ;-)
That's it! Now, I have been racking my brain as to the easiest way to move all my stuff over to it! Challenges with physical space as well. Wondering, is there a way to hook up one monitor for both machines while I try to migrate stuff or would you suggest something different?
A device called a KVM (keyboard, video, mouse) switch can be used to run a monitor off of two PCs (one at a time). I've never used one, and I'm not sure that it would serve your purpose.

I'd probably use an external drive to copy stuff. Slow, especially because you'd need to do it twice: old PC to external, external to new. But you won't need to watch the transfers. Just start them and go off to do something else.
 
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Right or wrong, just bought a new Ibuypower computer from costco. I didn't think I could buy the parts for what they were selling it for. It has the RTX 4060 card, so I should be good, once I get all the programs and data transferred over. That is a pain!!
Congrats!!! And it must just be a good time to upgrade. I just built a new system today.
Congrats to you as well! I am not sure I made the right decision yet. I am not much of a geek and trying to figure out the best way to move stuff over to the new machine.
How much data is it? An external SSD might not be that much and then you have an extra drive for the future.
 
Right or wrong, just bought a new Ibuypower computer from costco. I didn't think I could buy the parts for what they were selling it for. It has the RTX 4060 card, so I should be good, once I get all the programs and data transferred over. That is a pain!!
Congratulations! It is a very good choice. If I had not already bought a slightly weaker PC from Costco, I would have done the same. I have since upgraded the CPU & fans, the final cost is still hundreds less than comparable ones from other sources.

You may want to find and download the manual for the MB. It will help you when you want to upgrade. If I am not mistaken, the CPU is i7 14700, you may also want to download the BIOS patch (from MB manufacturer) released by Intel recently to prevent the potential overheating problem.
Yes, that is the CPU. thanks for the tip on the BIOS patch. I don't even know the MB manufacturer. Still in the box.
If ibuypower doesn't provide BIOS updates, the free tool HWiNFO64 should tell you who the actual motherboard maker is, plus a lot of other possibly useful info about your system.
Thanks, still in process of getting things ready to make the switch over to the new machine. Still in the box. Will try to figure it out soon!
 

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