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Hi,

i mainly do portrait photo but someone asked me to do “behinds the scenes” videos during a photoshoot. I could use my phone, but since I have a capable camera with great lenses, Fuji x-h2, I want to use it.

I never did serious video before. What video format should I use? What easy to learn and cheap ( or free) editing software is available for me?
 
Practice shooting and editing videos before the official shoot day.
^^^This!!!
Yes, but NOT the tripod recommendation, which is completely unnecessary for this type of video unless the Fuji stabilization is really bad (in which case, dump the camera for another one rather than investing in tripods).
Sure, but just as I am capable of making the most expensive guitar on the planet sound like hot garbage, I am also skilled at making footage from cameras with awesome stabilization look like a jittery mess.

Your footage looks good primarily because you have a lot of experience shooting video and have developed good technique. Sure, the stabilization has something to do with it, but I have churned out some pretty horrific footage on my Olympus E-M1 MK II, which has pretty amazing active stabilization.

Now, I am not saying that the OP must use a tripod (or monopod), but if this is his first time shooting video, I don't think he should go full Rambo mode, either.

This is why I mentioned earlier some other forms of stabilization aide, like the neck strap stretch, or a DIY Cine Saddle.

And practice, lots of practice.

Hopefully, the OP will test out shooting handheld in a similar situation (for a similar length of time as will be required the day of the shoot) and report back to us how the tests went.
I am not so sure how much skill is involved in holding a camera still and letting the great stabilization take place for short (less than 5 minutes) clips that make up most videos. Invoke IBIS Boost on a Lumix S5 and hold still, that's it. Nor is using a modern action cam to shoot while moving require years of experience, but it does take practice.

In any case, your promotion of the idea of practice is a very good one - and the guy should practice handheld as you say. But another poster here is pushing large tripods for video, which I think is a really bad idea for novices or experienced creators for that matter (with very important, very specific, exceptions).

Being literally tied down by a fluid-head large tripod or monopod or "shoulder rig" really limits the kind of video you can shoot and the OP will never learn what he needs to learn - to make use of the capability of modern cameras. Tripods are banned in many important venues too. Shoulder rig for a modern hybrid camera with good IBIS - absurd!

The OP should start practicing without the "training wheels" of tripods or monopods or "rigs.". Maybe stretching the shoulder strap idea is ok, but I really think is unnecessary (I have not put a shoulder strap on any camera I have used in the last 5 years).

It makes video a lot more pleasurable to not lug around and use these big accessories. It is not necessary anymore for most video shooting.
 
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I think that hand held almost always looks bad, and would recommend a shoulder rig or video monopod instead.
You could be right empirically, if you watch exclusively videos shot in the past, or by people who have no idea what they are doing. That would indeed make up a majority of videos out there.

But your comment does not apply to video shot handheld with the latest cameras by almost anybody.

So, it is an observation that is misleading for advising anyone starting video NOW with a modern camera.

This message and my posts with evidence are especially for you and the person who actually "liked" your misleading comment. And most of all to the OP, who should not take your comments about handheld video as anywhere near the truth.
 
...The OP should start practicing without the "training wheels" of tripods or monopods or "rigs.". Maybe stretching the shoulder strap idea is ok, but I really think is unnecessary (I have not put a shoulder strap on any camera I have used in the last 5 years).

It makes video a lot more pleasurable to not lug around and use these big accessories. It is not necessary anymore for most video shooting.
To keep the thread from being too long (visually) I will just quote the last part of your post.

Yes, I agree with your points (all of them). Unfotunately, the learning curve for using a tripod can be pretty steep, espexcially if (as in the case of the original poster), they don't know what exactly the setup / situation will be. .
 
.... Maybe stretching the shoulder strap idea is ok, but I really think is unnecessary (I have not put a shoulder strap on any camera I have used in the last 5 years).
For those of us prone to dropping things, a neck strap on a camera is a necessity. Ha ha.

Have you ever tried stabilizing a shot by using the neck strap as a third point of contact? It's a long-established technique in the world of handheld shooting.
 
Bing, you're very condescending and unfair in your categorization of me; please adhere to the forum rules or leave this discussion.

You're very dogmatic in your vitriol against tripods, could you explain why?

Tripod shots aren't necessarily locked off, it's a static perspective, but you still have the option to pan, tilt, and zoom. If the studio has a smooth floor, you can use a tripod dolly to get smooth moving shots.

I made my comments fully aware of optical image stabilization, 5-axis in-body image stabilization, gyro stabilization, and software stabilization.

Those are all great tools to have, and they work well to a point, but even the newest iterations have drawbacks, limitations, and shortcomings. A tripod avoids stabilization problems in the first place.

IBIS can fight you when you're trying to pan, you have to program in the focal length for non-CPU lenses, and the edges of the frame can be wobbly.

Most of the aforementioned stabilization methods can introduce some kind of artifacts, but they are preferable to shaky footage.

Hollywood hasn't abandoned Alexas, tripods, Fisher dollies, Easyrigs, and Steadicams in favor of Buranos with IBIS. IBIS is just another stabilization tool, not a replacement for all others.

When making recommendations for beginners, I believe it's prudent to eliminate variables where things can go awry, which is why I recommended recording in Rec.709 and using a tripod. You should note that I recommended Tomasz do his own research, as I was operating off scant information.
 
Perhaps the OP could find some BTS videos he likes and then analyze how they were shot. If the OP is unclear on what techniques were used, the videos could be linked here so we could add our 2 cents. (Probably more like 4 cents in my case. Ha ha.)
 
.... Maybe stretching the shoulder strap idea is ok, but I really think is unnecessary (I have not put a shoulder strap on any camera I have used in the last 5 years).
For those of us prone to dropping things, a neck strap on a camera is a necessity. Ha ha.

Have you ever tried stabilizing a shot by using the neck strap as a third point of contact? It's a long-established technique in the world of handheld shooting.
Once again, "long established" is exactly where the problem is. Yes, before IBIS and gyro stabilization people used many mechanical techniques to try to stabilize handheld video. and most handheld video was shaky. On my YouTube channel started many years ago, you can see that my earlier handheld videos definitely had some shake. Those days are done.

With today's cameras like the Nikon Z8 and Z9 and the Panasonic S5's and GH's, the IBIS stabilization for static shots obviates the need for these old techniques (Sony is just ok, I have no experience with Fuji IBIS).

Tripods are great for long-run static shots (interviews, concerts, plays) but for the majority of film/video clips of seconds, a tripod gets in the way and is unnecessary.

And gyro electronic stabilization makes moving with the camera smoother than a gimbal, which is only three axis. The insta360 Ace Pro, the DJI Action 4, the GoPro Hero 12 can shoot handheld video smoothly while running around with the camera. Gyro stabilization in post of Sony's and Blackmagic cameras replaces a gimbal (but gyro stabilization needs higher shutter speeds so it is not costless).

I have posted two example videos in this thread, one with static shots of a performance and one with literally running around with a camera. Just look at them and report whether you think a tripod was needed or a gimbal, let alone a neck strap.
 
Bing, you're very condescending and unfair in your categorization of me; please adhere to the forum rules or leave this discussion.

You're very dogmatic in your vitriol against tripods, could you explain why?

Tripod shots aren't necessarily locked off, it's a static perspective, but you still have the option to pan, tilt, and zoom. If the studio has a smooth floor, you can use a tripod dolly to get smooth moving shots.

I made my comments fully aware of optical image stabilization, 5-axis in-body image stabilization, gyro stabilization, and software stabilization.

Those are all great tools to have, and they work well to a point, but even the newest iterations have drawbacks, limitations, and shortcomings. A tripod avoids stabilization problems in the first place.

IBIS can fight you when you're trying to pan, you have to program in the focal length for non-CPU lenses, and the edges of the frame can be wobbly.

Most of the aforementioned stabilization methods can introduce some kind of artifacts, but they are preferable to shaky footage.

Hollywood hasn't abandoned Alexas, tripods, Fisher dollies, Easyrigs, and Steadicams in favor of Buranos with IBIS. IBIS is just another stabilization tool, not a replacement for all others.

When making recommendations for beginners, I believe it's prudent to eliminate variables where things can go awry, which is why I recommended recording in Rec.709 and using a tripod. You should note that I recommended Tomasz do his own research, as I was operating off scant information.
Nothing beats your "dogmatic" statement that all handheld video makes you seasick! So, I just returned your strong assertion with an equally strong statement about the recommendation to use a tripod. But I did not say that using a tripod will make anyone ill, although it does make me laugh.

Taking my critical comments on your recommendation to use a tripod and your over-the-top attacks on handheld video as personal and condescending is your issue. I have read many of your posts and know you have terrific knowledge. But look at what you said in this thread - all handheld videos make you seasick, all handheld videos are shaky. Those are not the helpful statements of an informed person; they are false and at the very least hyperbole. False and misleading statements do not violate Forum policy, but attacks on those statements do?

I posted handheld videos here giving you the opportunity to comment on them. They directly contradict your implication that all handheld videos are shaky and that tripods are always necessary. Do they make you seasick?

Using camera stabilization does require new knowledge, and practice. For example, there are IBIS pan modes on Panasonic cameras that enable you to smoothly pan (up or down, left or right). The wobbly frame edges are only for very wide-angle lenses, and there are electronic stabilization techniques that avoid them. Gyro stabilization requires faster shutter speeds, which is an issue.

For a novice, solely recommending out of date techniques is not helpful. Informing the novice about alternatives is, but you did not do that - tripod, tripod. Never handheld, no handheld. You did not display or use your knowledge, you just showed a very strong bias. What is that based on?

And, please, let's avoid bringing up Hollywood. But if you must, Hollywood does not simply use tripods (If they use them at all) - they use gimbals and cranes and dollies and jibs and sliders and drones. They use tracks. And most of all they use digital enhancements like there's no tomorrow. That stuff is out of our league and budget. The cameras are also much bigger, making handheld video difficult compared with the newer alternatives now available to everyone that shoot almost equally-good video (this is what threatens many).

The OP is not shooting a Hollywood film. A new action cam shooting 4K is probably the simplest solution unless the "scenes" are very low light. He can move around freely and unobtrusively, not worry about focus, and produce videos that will look great. They even shoot 10bit color and log gammas. A step up from those would be the gimbal-based DJI Pocket 3. The 4K videos from these are vey high quality. IBIS in the big-boy cameras and these newer camera forms have just made the tripod a dinosaur.

I still find it funny to envision the OP trying to discreetly drag around a professional shoot a giant fluid-head tripod, or rolling it around (quietly?).
 
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Thank you for all of your suggestions and tips. The shoot will be tomorrow outside on a rooftop with a cloudless day. I decided to film some behind the scenes but also some videos of the model. The focus will be on the clothes that the model will be wearing.

it will be for Instagram and maybe the website.

i will have a bipod if I need more static filming (I don’t have a fluid head), just regular.

i bought a SmallRig cage for the X-H2. with 2 handles for more dynamic video. It will be mainly short clips and I will rely on the image stabilization of the camera (not sure if I should add the slightly cropped “boosted” stabilization, didn’t have the time to test yet).

i’ll use my 23mm, 35mm, maybe the 18-55mm (APSC-format lenses).

i won’t need a longer lens since the space is limited on the rooftop anyways.

I think the best video format for me will be 30fps 4K H264 LongGop 200 mbps. Not sure if I should use MP4 or MOV? I use a PC. I don’t have an external recorder.

No microphone, so no sound for now.

I also have and ND filter 0,9 (not variable) I hope it will be enough.

Since 80% will go to Instagram, should I shoot vertical the whole time? Or horizontal and then crop?
 
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Thank you for all of your suggestions and tips. The shoot will be tomorrow outside on a rooftop with a cloudless day. I decided to film some behind the scenes but also some videos of the model. The focus will be on the clothes that the model will be wearing.

it will be for Instagram and maybe the website.

i will have a bipod if I need more static filming (I don’t have a fluid head), just regular.

i bought a SmallRig cage for the X-H2. with 2 handles for more dynamic video. It will be mainly short clips and I will rely on the image stabilization of the camera (not sure if I should add the slightly cropped “boosted” stabilization, didn’t have the time to test yet).

i’ll use my 23mm, 35mm, maybe the 18-55mm (APSC-format lenses).

i won’t need a longer lens since the space is limited on the rooftop anyways.

I think the best video format for me will be 30fps 4K H264 LongGop 200 mbps. Not sure if I should use MP4 or MOV? I use a PC. I don’t have an external recorder.

No microphone, so no sound for now.

I also have and ND filter 0,9 (not variable) I hope it will be enough.

Since 80% will go to Instagram, should I shoot vertical the whole time? Or horizontal and then crop?
Sounds like you're about as ready as you'll ever be. I found that transitioning to video has been a constant iterative process of trial and error. So definitely don't be discouraged if your footage isn't perfect. Not sure if your ND will be enough, but in daylight I would go with lowering ISO first if you need to decrease brightness. I try not to shoot video above about f/4 just for creative reasons, but depending on the scene you might be able to get away with a narrower aperture. I actually shoot 60fps on my main camera because I like to pull a lot of stills and so have less motion blur. Maybe it doesn't look "cinematic" but for Instagram I hardly think it matters, and that can be one way to cut down on the brightness without needing a filter. Just be mindful that if it's hot out the XH2 might overheat after longer periods of 60fps shooting and it takes double the storage.

I use a Mac so I don't have strong feelings on MP4 or MOV. MP4 is probably more Windows friendly, so if you use Windows I don't see any reason to not use MP4. All of my cameras shoot MP4, but my external recorder files are MOV and I mix them in editing without any issue.

IME the mics on the XH2 are actually really good so for BTS stuff you might find that your audio is perfectly usable.

I mostly shoot live music and TBH most of my stuff ends up going out on Instagram, but I absolutely refuse to shoot in 9:16. But from a practical perspective, cropping 16:9 4K down to 1080x1920 for socials is much easier and more flexible than shooting 9:16 and then trying to get a usable 16:9 clip from it if you need it later. ***the most important thing*** IMO when this is your plan is to be VERY mindful of your framing. My first few shoots I was pretty sloppy with framing, which is okay for 16:9 but is an absolute misery to fix in post with Position keyframes. I shoot with an Atomos Ninja V and it has a 9:16 frame guide which makes my workflow so much easier. I don't remember the XH2 having frame guides (just a rule-of-thirds grid) but it might be worth going through the menus/manual to see if it does.
 
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Bring a polarizer filter if have one, but don't cut all the light reflecting off the model's skin or it will look weird, and be aware that polarizers can unevenly darken the sky on wide angle lenses. You probably knew that already, but I mentioned it for the sake of being thorough.

Bring an 18% gray card if you have one, and use it to set your exposure with the zebra stripes set to 41 IRE.

You won't need an Expodisc to white balance for daylight, just tweak the kelvin value to taste and time of day.
 
The advice I give to all video noobs - pay attention to what's in the background of your shot so it doesn't come back to bite you later.
 

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