New OLYMPUS branded camera

OMDS will launch a 'new' camera branded Olympus rather than OM System. It's an E-M1 iii Astro. This seems odd as I thought the brand name was changed to OM System so no more Olympus branded products. Do they have a new contract to use the Olympus name? Why an Olympus E-M1 iii Astro, wouldn't an OM System OM1 Astro make more sense as far as brand identity is concerned? It seems odd unless there's been some internal mistake with the product photo.
There is probably no value to having a stacked sensor in an astro camera, since readout speed is less important and it is a more expensive sensor so it would have been more expensive to make. They would not want to produce an OM1 with a non-stacked sensor or slower sensor readout speed so the astro camera would have been more expensive.
But why use a brand name they said they were removing from their products in 2022? They've already re-branded lenses that previously carried the Olympus branding.
The official name of the product is "OM SYSTEM E-M1 MarkIII ASTRO." The E-M1 MkIII says "Olympus" on it. OM System continues to sell brand new OM-1 cameras that carry the Olympus name on them as well. No reason to fix something that isn't broken or to confuse the hell out of people by making an E-M1 that says OM System on it.
 
OMDS will launch a 'new' camera branded Olympus rather than OM System. It's an E-M1 iii Astro. This seems odd as I thought the brand name was changed to OM System so no more Olympus branded products. Do they have a new contract to use the Olympus name? Why an Olympus E-M1 iii Astro, wouldn't an OM System OM1 Astro make more sense as far as brand identity is concerned? It seems odd unless there's been some internal mistake with the product photo.

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I surmise they are old stock/inventory and they have been re-engineered to make the sensor more sensitive to Astronomy usage.

IIRC whilst still under Olympus or was it shortly after the changeover to OMDS? There were two such modified models aimed at the highly niche museum & specialist "archive records" usage market. So, such re-engineering is nothing new!
Making a variant of a camera is not unusual but after announcing in 2022 that the Olympus branding would be removed from their entire product portfolio it seems like an odd move as far as brand identity is concerned. They've already released two cameras and several lenses with the OM System branding. If this is old stock being "re-engineered" then why not at the same time 're-engineer' a new top cover with the OM System branding on it? I would have thought the OM System brand name would be an important aspect of their camera business.
It's odd but understandable. Clearly there was a need which led to a business decision that the most cost/effective way of producing such a specialised camera was to re-engineer old E-M1 III stock or perhaps crank up the old production line. OM-5s were probably insufficient and OM-1s too complex. The specialists that buy this sort of unique short production run gear, care little for brand names.
It is most likely, as Box Brownie pointed out, clearing excess inventory. I doubt E-M1 IIIs sell particularly well, with the OM-1s and the OM-5 supplanting it. Adding a red dot Like-A Leica is nowhere nearly as costly as replacing OLYMPUS with OMD - not a deliberate decision to label it with OLYMPUS.

There are some differences, IDK if any required hardware changes but read about it here: https://www.43rumors.com/just-announced-new-e-m1-mark-iii-astro-camera/

I don't do enough astro to read more than the first paragraph :-)
 
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OMDS will launch a 'new' camera branded Olympus rather than OM System. It's an E-M1 iii Astro. This seems odd as I thought the brand name was changed to OM System so no more Olympus branded products. Do they have a new contract to use the Olympus name? Why an Olympus E-M1 iii Astro, wouldn't an OM System OM1 Astro make more sense as far as brand identity is concerned? It seems odd unless there's been some internal mistake with the product photo.

7894fa67965b40ada07cffd1e76cabf3.jpg
I surmise they are old stock/inventory and they have been re-engineered to make the sensor more sensitive to Astronomy usage.

IIRC whilst still under Olympus or was it shortly after the changeover to OMDS? There were two such modified models aimed at the highly niche museum & specialist "archive records" usage market. So, such re-engineering is nothing new!
Making a variant of a camera is not unusual but after announcing in 2022 that the Olympus branding would be removed from their entire product portfolio it seems like an odd move as far as brand identity is concerned. They've already released two cameras and several lenses with the OM System branding. If this is old stock being "re-engineered" then why not at the same time 're-engineer' a new top cover with the OM System branding on it? I would have thought maintaining brand name consistency would be an important aspect of their brand identity.
They have a surplus stock
The E-M1iii appears to have been unavailable for some time now, so where has this surplus stock been hiding?! Wouldn't it make sense to keep this camera available until they've depleted all stock?
IDK but one explanation is that stores haven't ordered them, or, maybe a hidden vault of them was discovered in the jungles of Vietnam.
of so many Olympus E-M1 Mark III cameras and no good way to cover up the Olympus labels.

When those are sold there are no more.
 
OMDS will launch a 'new' camera branded Olympus rather than OM System. It's an E-M1 iii Astro. This seems odd as I thought the brand name was changed to OM System so no more Olympus branded products. Do they have a new contract to use the Olympus name? Why an Olympus E-M1 iii Astro, wouldn't an OM System OM1 Astro make more sense as far as brand identity is concerned? It seems odd unless there's been some internal mistake with the product photo.

7894fa67965b40ada07cffd1e76cabf3.jpg
I surmise they are old stock/inventory and they have been re-engineered to make the sensor more sensitive to Astronomy usage.

IIRC whilst still under Olympus or was it shortly after the changeover to OMDS? There were two such modified models aimed at the highly niche museum & specialist "archive records" usage market. So, such re-engineering is nothing new!
Making a variant of a camera is not unusual but after announcing in 2022 that the Olympus branding would be removed from their entire product portfolio it seems like an odd move as far as brand identity is concerned. They've already released two cameras and several lenses with the OM System branding. If this is old stock being "re-engineered" then why not at the same time 're-engineer' a new top cover with the OM System branding on it? I would have thought maintaining brand name consistency would be an important aspect of their brand identity.
They have a surplus stock
The E-M1iii appears to have been unavailable for some time now, so where has this surplus stock been hiding?! Wouldn't it make sense to keep this camera available until they've depleted all stock?
of so many Olympus E-M1 Mark III cameras and no good way to cover up the Olympus labels.

When those are sold there are no more.
OM Systems is in business to sell brand new $2,400 OM1.2 cameras, and brand new OM5 cameras at $1,000.

An ordinary mill run M1.3 cannabilizes sales.

Most of the reason I never had a M5.3 was Olympus liquidated the M5.2 bodies at $400.

The owner of a new Astro conversion could care less which body they converted. They’ll sit on a rock solid tripod anyway.


I would guess OM is doing parts clean up on the M1.3.

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OMDS will launch a 'new' camera branded Olympus rather than OM System. It's an E-M1 iii Astro. This seems odd as I thought the brand name was changed to OM System so no more Olympus branded products. Do they have a new contract to use the Olympus name? Why an Olympus E-M1 iii Astro, wouldn't an OM System OM1 Astro make more sense as far as brand identity is concerned? It seems odd unless there's been some internal mistake with the product photo.

7894fa67965b40ada07cffd1e76cabf3.jpg
I surmise they are old stock/inventory and they have been re-engineered to make the sensor more sensitive to Astronomy usage.

IIRC whilst still under Olympus or was it shortly after the changeover to OMDS? There were two such modified models aimed at the highly niche museum & specialist "archive records" usage market. So, such re-engineering is nothing new!
Making a variant of a camera is not unusual but after announcing in 2022 that the Olympus branding would be removed from their entire product portfolio it seems like an odd move as far as brand identity is concerned. They've already released two cameras and several lenses with the OM System branding. If this is old stock being "re-engineered" then why not at the same time 're-engineer' a new top cover with the OM System branding on it? I would have thought maintaining brand name consistency would be an important aspect of their brand identity.
They have a surplus stock
The E-M1iii appears to have been unavailable for some time now, so where has this surplus stock been hiding?! Wouldn't it make sense to keep this camera available until they've depleted all stock?
of so many Olympus E-M1 Mark III cameras and no good way to cover up the Olympus labels.

When those are sold there are no more.
OM Systems is in business to sell brand new $2,400 OM1.2 cameras, and brand new OM5 cameras at $1,000.
They're also in business to turn over existing inventory not sit on it indefinitely!
An ordinary mill run M1.3 cannabilizes sales.

Most of the reason I never had a M5.3 was Olympus liquidated the M5.2 bodies at $400.

The owner of a new Astro conversion could care less which body they converted. They’ll sit on a rock solid tripod anyway.

https://www.astrogear.net/blogs/gui...verted DSLR or,galaxies besides the Milky Way.

I would guess OM is doing parts clean up on the M1.3.

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OMDS will launch a 'new' camera branded Olympus rather than OM System. It's an E-M1 iii Astro. This seems odd as I thought the brand name was changed to OM System so no more Olympus branded products. Do they have a new contract to use the Olympus name? Why an Olympus E-M1 iii Astro, wouldn't an OM System OM1 Astro make more sense as far as brand identity is concerned? It seems odd unless there's been some internal mistake with the product photo.

7894fa67965b40ada07cffd1e76cabf3.jpg
I surmise they are old stock/inventory and they have been re-engineered to make the sensor more sensitive to Astronomy usage.

IIRC whilst still under Olympus or was it shortly after the changeover to OMDS? There were two such modified models aimed at the highly niche museum & specialist "archive records" usage market. So, such re-engineering is nothing new!
Making a variant of a camera is not unusual but after announcing in 2022 that the Olympus branding would be removed from their entire product portfolio it seems like an odd move as far as brand identity is concerned. They've already released two cameras and several lenses with the OM System branding. If this is old stock being "re-engineered" then why not at the same time 're-engineer' a new top cover with the OM System branding on it? I would have thought maintaining brand name consistency would be an important aspect of their brand identity.
They have a surplus stock
The E-M1iii appears to have been unavailable for some time now, so where has this surplus stock been hiding?! Wouldn't it make sense to keep this camera available until they've depleted all stock?
IDK but one explanation is that stores haven't ordered them, or, maybe a hidden vault of them was discovered in the jungles of Vietnam.
Perhaps they'll also dig up some Olympus Pen F cameras hiding in their warehouse!!
of so many Olympus E-M1 Mark III cameras and no good way to cover up the Olympus labels.

When those are sold there are no more.
 
OMDS will launch a 'new' camera branded Olympus rather than OM System. It's an E-M1 iii Astro. This seems odd as I thought the brand name was changed to OM System so no more Olympus branded products. Do they have a new contract to use the Olympus name? Why an Olympus E-M1 iii Astro, wouldn't an OM System OM1 Astro make more sense as far as brand identity is concerned? It seems odd unless there's been some internal mistake with the product photo.
There is probably no value to having a stacked sensor in an astro camera, since readout speed is less important and it is a more expensive sensor so it would have been more expensive to make. They would not want to produce an OM1 with a non-stacked sensor or slower sensor readout speed so the astro camera would have been more expensive.
But why use a brand name they said they were removing from their products in 2022? They've already re-branded lenses that previously carried the Olympus branding.
The official name of the product is "OM SYSTEM E-M1 MarkIII ASTRO." The E-M1 MkIII says "Olympus" on it. OM System continues to sell brand new OM-1 cameras that carry the Olympus name on them as well.
Yes but it was made before they announced they would be removing the Olympus name from their entire product portfolio back in 2022.
No reason to fix something that isn't broken or to confuse the hell out of people by making an E-M1 that says OM System on it.
 
I read this in news as well but also read it's only going to be available in Japan and a limited amount.

Maybe it's just finding a use for some older stock they still have?
Then I have to wonder why the E-M1iii hasn't been available for a long time if they have stock sitting around in their warehouse. Did they forget they had stock of this camera?!! That doesn't sound like good business.
I'd say it's a tiny stock of parts, not finished cameras.
So they can contractually continue using the Olympus name then?
How large do you think the sales of a specialist camera sold only in Japan are going to be?

If it sells well, maybe there will be more. Otherwise they will mysteriously appear as grey market goods in Europe.

It's just a minor throw of the dice at low cost.

Interesting to see which lens they think is their Astro lens.

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OMDS will launch a 'new' camera branded Olympus rather than OM System. It's an E-M1 iii Astro. This seems odd as I thought the brand name was changed to OM System so no more Olympus branded products. Do they have a new contract to use the Olympus name? Why an Olympus E-M1 iii Astro, wouldn't an OM System OM1 Astro make more sense as far as brand identity is concerned? It seems odd unless there's been some internal mistake with the product photo.

7894fa67965b40ada07cffd1e76cabf3.jpg
I surmise they are old stock/inventory and they have been re-engineered to make the sensor more sensitive to Astronomy usage.

IIRC whilst still under Olympus or was it shortly after the changeover to OMDS? There were two such modified models aimed at the highly niche museum & specialist "archive records" usage market. So, such re-engineering is nothing new!
Making a variant of a camera is not unusual but after announcing in 2022 that the Olympus branding would be removed from their entire product portfolio it seems like an odd move as far as brand identity is concerned. They've already released two cameras and several lenses with the OM System branding. If this is old stock being "re-engineered" then why not at the same time 're-engineer' a new top cover with the OM System branding on it? I would have thought maintaining brand name consistency would be an important aspect of their brand identity.
They have a surplus stock
The E-M1iii appears to have been unavailable for some time now, so where has this surplus stock been hiding?! Wouldn't it make sense to keep this camera available until they've depleted all stock?
of so many Olympus E-M1 Mark III cameras and no good way to cover up the Olympus labels.

When those are sold there are no more.
OM Systems is in business to sell brand new $2,400 OM1.2 cameras, and brand new OM5 cameras at $1,000.
They're also in business to turn over existing inventory not sit on it indefinitely!
An ordinary mill run M1.3 cannabilizes sales.

Most of the reason I never had a M5.3 was Olympus liquidated the M5.2 bodies at $400.

The owner of a new Astro conversion could care less which body they converted. They’ll sit on a rock solid tripod anyway.

https://www.astrogear.net/blogs/gui...verted DSLR or,galaxies besides the Milky Way.

I would guess OM is doing parts clean up on the M1.3.

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The purpose of a converted Astro camera is to mount to a big telescope.



Im surprised the entire market, which has to be very small, isn’t for full frame or large format digital.



There has to be universities with astronomy departments who either order these gadgets or the student has to buy one for the course.



No way they’d waste a new front line consumer camera body on such a tiny market.

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I read this in news as well but also read it's only going to be available in Japan and a limited amount.

Maybe it's just finding a use for some older stock they still have?
Then I have to wonder why the E-M1iii hasn't been available for a long time if they have stock sitting around in their warehouse. Did they forget they had stock of this camera?!! That doesn't sound like good business.
I'd say it's a tiny stock of parts, not finished cameras. How large do you think the sales of a specialist camera sold only in Japan are going to be?

If it sells well, maybe there will be more. Otherwise they will mysteriously appear as grey market goods in Europe.

It's just a minor throw of the dice at low cost.

Interesting to see which lens they think is their Astro lens.

A
If you read the linked article the lens used for the comparison images was a 75 f1.8, 60 sec HHHR exposure.
 
I suspect the bodies with "Olympus" on the hump were in stock.
 
I read this in news as well but also read it's only going to be available in Japan and a limited amount.

Maybe it's just finding a use for some older stock they still have?
Then I have to wonder why the E-M1iii hasn't been available for a long time if they have stock sitting around in their warehouse. Did they forget they had stock of this camera?!! That doesn't sound like good business.
I'd say it's a tiny stock of parts, not finished cameras.
So they can contractually continue using the Olympus name then?
How large do you think the sales of a specialist camera sold only in Japan are going to be?

If it sells well, maybe there will be more. Otherwise they will mysteriously appear as grey market goods in Europe.

It's just a minor throw of the dice at low cost.

Interesting to see which lens they think is their Astro lens.

A
Find a sales offer post launch and look at the camera. Maybe they can if they are using existing parts before a cutoff date.

A
 
OMDS will launch a 'new' camera branded Olympus rather than OM System. It's an E-M1 iii Astro. This seems odd as I thought the brand name was changed to OM System so no more Olympus branded products. Do they have a new contract to use the Olympus name? Why an Olympus E-M1 iii Astro, wouldn't an OM System OM1 Astro make more sense as far as brand identity is concerned? It seems odd unless there's been some internal mistake with the product photo.
There is probably no value to having a stacked sensor in an astro camera, since readout speed is less important and it is a more expensive sensor so it would have been more expensive to make. They would not want to produce an OM1 with a non-stacked sensor or slower sensor readout speed so the astro camera would have been more expensive.
But why use a brand name they said they were removing from their products in 2022? They've already re-branded lenses that previously carried the Olympus branding.
The official name of the product is "OM SYSTEM E-M1 MarkIII ASTRO." The E-M1 MkIII says "Olympus" on it. OM System continues to sell brand new OM-1 cameras that carry the Olympus name on them as well.
Yes but it was made before they announced they would be removing the Olympus name from their entire product portfolio back in 2022.
No reason to fix something that isn't broken or to confuse the hell out of people by making an E-M1 that says OM System on it.
I suspect that since the model retains the E-M1 III designation and is only the "astro" derivative it could be considered to not be a "new" release and therefore can use the Olympus name.

But like other's have said... "who cares". This just supports another niche, just like the TG line supports the nature photography under the sea. I suspect we will, however, never see a "nuptials" model.
 
OMDS will launch a 'new' camera branded Olympus rather than OM System. It's an E-M1 iii Astro. This seems odd as I thought the brand name was changed to OM System so no more Olympus branded products. Do they have a new contract to use the Olympus name? Why an Olympus E-M1 iii Astro, wouldn't an OM System OM1 Astro make more sense as far as brand identity is concerned? It seems odd unless there's been some internal mistake with the product photo.

7894fa67965b40ada07cffd1e76cabf3.jpg
I surmise they are old stock/inventory and they have been re-engineered to make the sensor more sensitive to Astronomy usage.

IIRC whilst still under Olympus or was it shortly after the changeover to OMDS? There were two such modified models aimed at the highly niche museum & specialist "archive records" usage market. So, such re-engineering is nothing new!
Making a variant of a camera is not unusual but after announcing in 2022 that the Olympus branding would be removed from their entire product portfolio it seems like an odd move as far as brand identity is concerned. They've already released two cameras and several lenses with the OM System branding. If this is old stock being "re-engineered" then why not at the same time 're-engineer' a new top cover with the OM System branding on it? I would have thought maintaining brand name consistency would be an important aspect of their brand identity.
They have a surplus stock
The E-M1iii appears to have been unavailable for some time now, so where has this surplus stock been hiding?! Wouldn't it make sense to keep this camera available until they've depleted all stock?
of so many Olympus E-M1 Mark III cameras and no good way to cover up the Olympus labels.

When those are sold there are no more.
OM Systems is in business to sell brand new $2,400 OM1.2 cameras, and brand new OM5 cameras at $1,000.
They're also in business to turn over existing inventory not sit on it indefinitely!
An ordinary mill run M1.3 cannabilizes sales.

Most of the reason I never had a M5.3 was Olympus liquidated the M5.2 bodies at $400.

The owner of a new Astro conversion could care less which body they converted. They’ll sit on a rock solid tripod anyway.

https://www.astrogear.net/blogs/gui...verted DSLR or,galaxies besides the Milky Way.

I would guess OM is doing parts clean up on the M1.3.
The purpose of a converted Astro camera is to mount to a big telescope.
What's the purpose of OMDS using the previous brand name that they announced they were removing from their entire product portfolio back in 2022?
Im surprised the entire market, which has to be very small, isn’t for full frame or large format digital.

There has to be universities with astronomy departments who either order these gadgets or the student has to buy one for the course.

No way they’d waste a new front line consumer camera body on such a tiny market.

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OMDS will launch a 'new' camera branded Olympus rather than OM System. It's an E-M1 iii Astro. This seems odd as I thought the brand name was changed to OM System so no more Olympus branded products. Do they have a new contract to use the Olympus name? Why an Olympus E-M1 iii Astro, wouldn't an OM System OM1 Astro make more sense as far as brand identity is concerned? It seems odd unless there's been some internal mistake with the product photo.

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If this is a variation that has been reconfigured specifically to appeal to the Astro Photography market, I would be curious about the details.
Here's a couple of links. Note that the camera product images show Olympus not OM System.

https://jp.omsystem.com/product/astronomical/em1mk3_astro/index.html

https://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1604729.html
Thanks for the links. This seems to be evidence of JIP leveraging the characteristics of the E-M1 III to emphasize another “nature” niche. My son uses his OM1 for Astro and will be really interested in the in-body filters.
I see that STC already has drop in astro filters for M43. They may well work on an OM-1.

I wonder of OMDS woll do anything different than sell STC filters (there is llkely little added value in OMDS rolling their own)

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...this release (only available in Japan) serves two main purposes:

1) Helps to clear existing physical inventory by taking advantage of domestic loyalty (nostalgia) towards the Olympus brand name

Yes, there is a contract.

However Olympus acknowledges the additional challenge of clearing Olympus-branded inventory worldwide due to the double-whammy of the pandemic and the existing economic environment. (Olympus must agree to this usage of their name)

2) There were infra-red (IR) versions of both the E-M1.3 and E-M1X bodies.

This "astro" release of the E-M1.3, also serves as a precursor to a more substantive release of astro-related tech in the not-too-distant future.

Reading the tea leaves:

1) The OM System body to debut the "astro" tech is clearly delayed

2) Partners that make associated accessories, produced for a specific release date.

This Olympus branded release allows the partner(s) to start selling / marketing their products ahead of the more substantive OM System branded body release. (Creates awareness and association)

Cheers.
 
I suspect the bodies with "Olympus" on the hump were in stock.
Where? They've been long gone from retail shops.
Well, if I was planning this Astro, I would curtail the availability of the E-M1 III for such a caper. I’m assuming the Astro hybrid will garner more profit than a closeout sale of the E- M1 III.
 
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OMDS will launch a 'new' camera branded Olympus rather than OM System. It's an E-M1 iii Astro. This seems odd as I thought the brand name was changed to OM System so no more Olympus branded products. Do they have a new contract to use the Olympus name? Why an Olympus E-M1 iii Astro, wouldn't an OM System OM1 Astro make more sense as far as brand identity is concerned? It seems odd unless there's been some internal mistake with the product photo.
There is probably no value to having a stacked sensor in an astro camera, since readout speed is less important and it is a more expensive sensor so it would have been more expensive to make. They would not want to produce an OM1 with a non-stacked sensor or slower sensor readout speed so the astro camera would have been more expensive.
But why use a brand name they said they were removing from their products in 2022? They've already re-branded lenses that previously carried the Olympus branding.
The official name of the product is "OM SYSTEM E-M1 MarkIII ASTRO." The E-M1 MkIII says "Olympus" on it. OM System continues to sell brand new OM-1 cameras that carry the Olympus name on them as well.
Yes but it was made before they announced they would be removing the Olympus name from their entire product portfolio back in 2022.
No reason to fix something that isn't broken or to confuse the hell out of people by making an E-M1 that says OM System on it.
I suspect that since the model retains the E-M1 III designation and is only the "astro" derivative it could be considered to not be a "new" release and therefore can use the Olympus name.
So why publish this in 2022?

In a press release posted to its Japanese website, OMDS announced will be replacing the ‘Olympus’ name on all of its current product lineup with ‘OM System.’ According to the announcement, the change will impact all products in OMDS' lineup, including cameras, lenses, binoculars and accessories. Aside from swapping ‘Olympus’ with ‘OM System,’ the affected products will otherwise remain unchanged, with the original specifications and build quality.
But like other's have said... "who cares". This just supports another niche, just like the TG line supports the nature photography under the sea. I suspect we will, however, never see a "nuptials" model.
 
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