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I have recently upgraded from a Z6II to a Z8 as a retirement present to myself. I want to get more involved in learning photography and to make it a serious hobby to get me out of the house.

Still very much early days, but I want to start shooting in Raw plus Jpeg. Would there be any disadvantage if I were to shoot Raw images to the CFexpress card and the Jpeg images to the SD card/ Appreciate any thoughts.
 
The only disadvantage to using an SD card is that the write speed is slower than a CFe card and the camera can only write as fast as the slowest card. If you're not shooting a lot of high-speed sequences, you may never notice the difference. If you are shooting sequences, try it out with and without the SD care and see if it slows you down.
 
I think with experience, you will find that there is no need to ever shoot .jpg files. You can make one anytime you need it in your processing program and that copy will have all of your edits, an original .jpg won't unless you also process that file. Which makes double work and is likely to produce inferior results to the processed raw.
 
Ken Seals said:
I think with experience, you will find that there is no need to ever shoot .jpg files. You can make one anytime you need it in your processing program and that copy will have all of your edits, an original .jpg won't unless you also process that file. Which makes double work and is likely to produce inferior results to the processed raw.
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Well, yes and no.

By and large I only shoot raw but I can see some advantages to having a JPEG as well. If you got everything right in the shot (exposure, Picture Control, etc.), then the OOC JPEG might be good enough for most purposes. If I were shooting an event, for example, I might shoot both. First, it would be backup if a card got lost or corrupted and second, useable JPEGs might save me a lot of post processing work.

But for landscape, wildlife and general nature, I agree with you that there's no real need for JPEG.
 
Ken Seals said:
I think with experience, you will find that there is no need to ever shoot .jpg files. You can make one anytime you need it in your processing program and that copy will have all of your edits, an original .jpg won't unless you also process that file. Which makes double work and is likely to produce inferior results to the processed raw.
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Hal174 said:
I have recently upgraded from a Z6II to a Z8 as a retirement present to myself. I want to get more involved in learning photography and to make it a serious hobby to get me out of the house.

Still very much early days, but I want to start shooting in Raw plus Jpeg. Would there be any disadvantage if I were to shoot Raw images to the CFexpress card and the Jpeg images to the SD card/ Appreciate any thoughts.
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If you shoot raw only and chimp the shot to check focus and such, you are only looking at the tiny jpg image that’s embedded in the raw file. When you shoot raw+jpg you are looking at the larger jpg file in preview which has much better detail.
 
Rodenmg said:
Hal174 said:
I have recently upgraded from a Z6II to a Z8 as a retirement present to myself. I want to get more involved in learning photography and to make it a serious hobby to get me out of the house.

Still very much early days, but I want to start shooting in Raw plus Jpeg. Would there be any disadvantage if I were to shoot Raw images to the CFexpress card and the Jpeg images to the SD card/ Appreciate any thoughts.
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If you shoot raw only and chimp the shot to check focus and such, you are only looking at the tiny jpg image that’s embedded in the raw file. When you shoot raw+jpg you are looking at the larger jpg file in preview which has much better detail.
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I will have to try that for myself. However, when I zoom in to 100% in the jpg in a raw, I can't imagine better detail, provided the image is nice and sharp. Nor can I imagine needing more detail than that.
 
Thank you all for the time and effort to reply to my original question, that is very much appreciated. I really love the Z8 and look forward to improving my very basic knowledge.

Can I take this opportunity to ask for your thoughts on another question please?

I am based in the UK and currently subscribe to the Adobe Photography Plan that includes LR+PS+LrC + 20GB of cloud storage. At 70 years old there is no way I am going to get my head around Photoshop. Ha Ha.

Also, I am struggling a little with Lightroom Classic although I do understand the basics. However I really do like the layout and clean features of Lightroom Mobile, especially now that you can use local storage. And the latest upgrade from Adobe is very impressive.

I could change my monthly subscription on Adobe to just the Lightroom package only with 1TB of Cloud Storage for the same price.

My current photo library is about 230Gb (30,000 pictures) so this seems like the way forward for me as it would help with backup and to use via phone etc. I know this is a personal choice, but I don't see my skill level will ever need the full capabilities of Lightroom Classic. Is there anything I need to consider or think about before making the change. Thanks again.
 
Hal174 said:
Thank you all for the time and effort to reply to my original question, that is very much appreciated. I really love the Z8 and look forward to improving my very basic knowledge.

I could change my monthly subscription on Adobe to just the Lightroom package only with 1TB of Cloud Storage for the same price.
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Personally, I would never do that. I use Lightroom Classic for my main processing program and LR mobile to show photos to friends and family.

I have never checked to see if it is possible to get your LrC catalog information into Lightroom. That is something you will have to check out unless you are willing to start from scratch with all those images.

Also, check the size of all those images on disk. Will they all fit in the cloud? That might not actually matter since LR now has local storage option.
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Yes and no

I don't often shoot JPEG and tend to only shoot raw, but for events where I'm needing to deliver photos quickly I'll sometimes duplicate the jpeg to send off to a team during a race. It's faster than trying to pull a RAW off my camera to my phone, then converting it in lightroom mobile, then being able to send off.
 
Thank you both for your replies. I have given it some thought and agree that it would be best to stay with the package I have, which includes Lightroom Classic. Thanks again.
 
Rodenmg said:
Hal174 said:
I have recently upgraded from a Z6II to a Z8 as a retirement present to myself. I want to get more involved in learning photography and to make it a serious hobby to get me out of the house.

Still very much early days, but I want to start shooting in Raw plus Jpeg. Would there be any disadvantage if I were to shoot Raw images to the CFexpress card and the Jpeg images to the SD card/ Appreciate any thoughts.
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If you shoot raw only and chimp the shot to check focus and such, you are only looking at the tiny jpg image that’s embedded in the raw file. When you shoot raw+jpg you are looking at the larger jpg file in preview which has much better detail.
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the embedded jpg in the raw file on all my Nikon DSLR and Z7ii, Z8, is a full pixel size jpg at compression level called basic. That is what you look at maximum magnification image review. It is easy and quick to extract these embedded jpg. I personally use a script to standardize my image file names with six digit date and time pre-pended like this for a picture taken today like 240603_1748_DSC_0001.NEF and extract the full size jpg "thumbnail" file. These jpg are good enough for a critical review and more. For non-challenging takes, I can just go from the thumbnail. To enter NEF files from D500, D850, Z7ii, Z8 to my permanent license photoshop CS6, I need to use Adobe dng conversion. This leaves the raw pixel values unchanged, adds additional exif entries and substitutes truly a thumbnail jpg which is of no value for use beyond 'seeing' the image of the raw file.
 
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