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R8 is use.



Just curious which mode is better to be used on a bright day. Better in a way of more consistent AF.



Is the AF tied to the face exposure as with the Sony and Nikon ?

Question is for any RF lens, if that matters.
 
R8 is use.

Just curious which mode is better to be used on a bright day. Better in a way of more consistent AF.

Is the AF tied to the face exposure as with the Sony and Nikon ?

Question is for any RF lens, if that matters.
I prefer av, I want to be able to control the aperture for shallow dof. If my shutter speed is too low then I’ll increase the iso.

if that doesn’t give the desired result I’ll switch to manual.

I’m not sure which is better or worse in regards to the af but the af on mirrorless cameras are so good these days that I don’t think you’ll notice much of a difference in either.
 
I don't think it matter. Av and Tv both use the same metering, just which value is set and which are automatic.
 
Aperture and shutter speed set manually - with auto ISO is what I recommend.

With 2 dials only on camera, I use the lens or adaptor control wheel for aperture and 2 camera dials for shutter speed and exposure compensation. (R5 and R6 of course nice with 3 dials).
 
Canon, by default, focuses with the aperture wide open. The only setting that would have bearing on the AF is how you fine tune the AF or if you choose to enable shooting with DOF preview enabled full time.
 
Fv and auto iso.
 
That is interesting.



I don’t know how to use or should I enable DOF focus.



Can you explain a little bit more how this DOF enabled AF works ?

Some guys recommend disabling the DOF AF thingy, but I need to understand for myself how it works and when to use it, if at all.
 
I used to shoot Av. Also Av or M with flash outdoors. M for flash indoors.

Now with R bodies and Auto ISO it's M all the way.

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You just need to keep the forests wet
 
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R8 is use.

Just curious which mode is better to be used on a bright day. Better in a way of more consistent AF.

Is the AF tied to the face exposure as with the Sony and Nikon ?

Question is for any RF lens, if that matters.
It actually depends on the genre and your subject matter. If you're shooting portraits in available light (no flash etc), Av would likely be more appropriate.
 
That is interesting.

I don’t know how to use or should I enable DOF focus.

Can you explain a little bit more how this DOF enabled AF works ?

Some guys recommend disabling the DOF AF thingy, but I need to understand for myself how it works and when to use it, if at all.


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From the manual. Steps down the aperture to show you in the EVF how much depth of field you have at your chosen settings.
 
That is interesting.

I don’t know how to use or should I enable DOF focus.

Can you explain a little bit more how this DOF enabled AF works ?

Some guys recommend disabling the DOF AF thingy, but I need to understand for myself how it works and when to use it, if at all.
I wouldn’t bother with that features. Photographers have been metering and focusing with the aperture wide open for decades. My first camera was a super-cheapo Fuji with stop-down metering, but nobody’s even made a camera with that since the 1970’s.
 
R8 is use.

Just curious which mode is better to be used on a bright day. Better in a way of more consistent AF.
It will make no difference. Which mode you choose depends on which parameter is required to be kept the same. This depends on what you are taking photos of.
 
R8 is use.

Just curious which mode is better to be used on a bright day. Better in a way of more consistent AF.

Is the AF tied to the face exposure as with the Sony and Nikon ?

Question is for any RF lens, if that matters.
There's no right or wrong answer to this. Depends more on what you're shooting and trying to do. For birds in flight, for example, you might want to shoot in Tv with a faster shutter speed to freeze or minimize movement blur. If you're doing portraits on a beach, you might want to shoot in Av with a wider aperture to isolate the subjects. Might need a ND filter if it's too bright and you can't get a fast enough shutter speed to avoid overexposure.
 
Fv and auto iso.
FV mode has a fatal flaw: it ignores minimum shutter speed setting.
I've not found that fatal. If you have a minimum shutter speed for that subject, just set it in Fv along with your aperture and let AUTO ISO take care of the exposure. You still have control of the exposure through exposure compensation if the exposure simulation looks wrong.
 
R8 is use.

Just curious which mode is better to be used on a bright day. Better in a way of more consistent AF.

Is the AF tied to the face exposure as with the Sony and Nikon ?

Question is for any RF lens, if that matters.
"M", with a milch camera, makes both Av, & Tv rather redundant, approaching obsolescence.
 
This is so subject dependent! Flowing water and birds in flight are 2 really good examples. Both need shutter speeds set to capture what you want. Flowing water changes quite a bit with different shutter speeds. If you want to freeze bird flight you need a very fast shutter speed, but to blur it a little (to convey motion) you need a slower shutter speed. In both cases, you may want various apertures depending on the DoF you want/need. And all of this applies to bright days as much as dimmer ones—it's about the subject and how you want to portray it. Hence you'd want to vary both aperture and shutter speed.

Landscapes and more static subjects may be more forgiving, but again depends on how you want to portray them. For those you'd often be fine in Av mode, but of course there are exceptions.

On my R5's, I've worked around this using C1-3 saved settings. I've set C1 to Manual with Auto ISO and C2 to Av mode with ISO I vary. When I'm shooting birds/wildlife, I switch to C1 which has fast shutter speed, "reasonable" aperture, and I adjust both as the situation warrants. The camera responds with an ISO and I pay attention, adjusting Exposure Compensation if needed. With landscapes and such, I switch to C2. Again, though, paying attention to the shutter speed the camera sets and adjusting whatever's needed to capture the shot.

As you gain experience you'll catch on to the settings you need for various subjects/settings.
 
Thanks for all the replies.



I’m leaning towards Av for portraits, and Tv for cases where I need to freeze the action, like birds, sports etc.

I’ve just bought brand new RF 100-400 and will try it out in the next 1-2 weeks around the local pond.
 
FV mode has a fatal flaw: it ignores minimum shutter speed setting.
I've not found that fatal. If you have a minimum shutter speed for that subject, just set it in Fv along with your aperture
That would be about always, as FV will never set auto shutter speed I want.
Av is the wrong mode If I need a specific shutter speed. I use Fv as a super Av mode with AUTO ISO. AUTO ISO will try to select ISO 100, but will try to raise the ISO to keep the shutter speed to 1/f" whether the lens is stabilised or not. I can't alter the rate of change of shutter speed with focal length the way I can in Av, but Av is the wrong mode If I need a specific shutter speed. In that case I will either use Fv as a super TV mode or, keeping my preferred aperture, move the rear wheel one click to the left and set the shutter speed as well. Fv doesn't keep to the limits you set for Av mode, but neither does Tv mode; it is what it is. I photograph so many different subjects using so many focal lengths that presetting a minimum shutter speed would be a waste of time.
 

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